Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Mid Round Madness + Maaailbag!

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Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Hey, happy Tuesday. I wasn't sure if you were going, Macarena. That's where I was going to go. Certainly sounded like it. Yeah. Hey, Michael Rayna. Oh, no, I wasn't. Although I did watch a really, I watched about 20 minutes worth of a 90s YouTube playlist. Oh. So I went through a bunch of those old songs. The 90s, slow jams.

That's where it's at. What, like boys some in? Oh, yeah. Mariah Carey? Of course. No spice girls for you, Mike. Were you a spice girl? Oh, I spiced up my life. Plenty. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast. Any Mike and Jason back again. Great episode. Midround Madness on the show today. We are each identifying two of our favorite players.

Between rounds four and eight right now based on ADP, that's average draft position. So guys that are being drafted between the fourth and the eighth round, some of our favorites. And I'm going to say right now these two guys are likely to be on my favorites list all off season long. Thanks, Andy. Aren't you happy to hear it? I see what you did there, Mike, and I appreciate it. I didn't see what you did. I missed it. That's funny. You still haven't caught up. No, Mike was saying that...

you were insinuating that these two guys being Mike and Jason are going to be on your favorites. You know, compliments of you two are so outside the bounds of what's realistic. Of my comprehension. I didn't catch it at all. All right. It's a party in here. Hey, here's a quick question. What are some suggestions to get more trading done in your leagues? It comes in off of Twitter from Greg at G Armstrong 7895.

Man, there's a lot of G Armstrongs out there. That is a lot. He says in his league, everyone wants to be the clear-cut winner. And so I'm guessing that not a lot of trades get done. So what are some suggestions that you might have to get more trading done in your league? I'm sure this is a question for a lot of people. Oh, yeah. I mean, we get this question all the time. And I think it's a really important question because if you've got a stagnant league that you just can't get anything done with, it dies off. If that's the case, do a draft only.

best ball league or something like that. But here's a tip that I think is a really important, valuable tip to get more trades happening. And I got this one from one of our writers, the fantasy footballers, Michael Winrich. He brought up the fact that usually when, you know, you have a lot of trades going, it's because there's needs. There's needs to plug on certain teams. So let's say you're in a 10 team league and you've

got the normal starting roster, everyone's good. And so if you want to incentivize having more trades, have a deeper starting roster, maybe at a flex position or something like that to where more players in the player pool are actually active. And then you can see certain teams going, I need more depth. I need to do one of these two-for-ones or I need a star. I've got the depth. That's one way, I think, that could help.

leagues that have a major problem with it, get over it, and they might just enjoy the strategy of having an extra flex position regardless of trades. That begs the question that popped into my head when you're talking about that, Jason. Would that stand a reason that having DL spots hurts the potential for more trades? You mean IR spots, Mr. Baseball? Oh, yeah. I was talking baseball. IR spots. I don't think so because, I mean, no matter what, if you're putting a guy there, it's because he can't.

make an impact for your team and so in that situation you still need to go trade for a guy i don't think that would make the difference a couple other suggestions i don't traditionally believe that the trade blocks that are in the different systems tend to work you need to get

your trade needs, your trading block out in front of everybody in the league in a very public way. So we always love having a Facebook group or something of that nature, Slack, or some of these older programs where you can say, hey, I'm looking to trade this guy. I would also say that your thought process there saying, hey, everyone wants to be the clear winner. Well, when you approach a trade, you need to approach it from the perspective that you're going to make that other guy think he's the real winner. So I think. And if it's a good trade, sometimes they are.

I mean, it's not always one person lops. Right. You know, you've got to look at the other team and say, what do they need? Sometimes I see these trades come across. It's like, why would I do that? The other team needs four crappy players, and I need one all-star. Right. Did you not know this? No, it's always the case. Mike, did you have anything to add or shall we move on? No, let's move on. Okay. You guys have a good weekend? Spectacular weekend. Oh, man. Anniversary weekend, 12 years with me and my beautiful wife, Tiffany.

Congratulations. Thanks. That sounds fun. It was a good time. How's your hole, Mike? You got a big hole in your backyard. Putting a pool in, everybody. How's the coming? It's when you're out there with a shovel, it's slow work. It's very hot in Arizona. We went up north for a day to avoid the heat. All right. If you want to follow the show, we're on Twitter at the FF Ballers on the Fantasy Sports Network. On YouTube, you can subscribe over there, which I highly recommend.

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Everybody's on it. Everybody who's anybody. Yeah. Yeah. All right. No news and notes today. So we're going to jump right into the mid-round madness. Let's do it. All right. Players from rounds four through eight based on the current average draft position where they're going right now. Obviously, the rookies have landed. Some of this ADP is starting to settle for, you know, the end of May, that is. The end of win. Oh, gosh, I hate it. It's going to be May.

Interestingly, last year, Frank Gore was on Jason's list of mid-round madness favorites. Now, I'm going to read to you what Jason wrote last year. Have you read through this? Am I good to read it? Yeah, yeah, it should be. So he wrote this last year. Gore was going 704 last year. So the fourth pick of the seventh round because Frank Gore disrespect, right? Finish number 12. Jason said, yeah, he's old. He's like really old. That's why he's dropping to the eighth round.

The Colts were widely expected to bring in an RB to help through the draft, and instead they brought in no one, et cetera. And he ended up number 12. Wait, are you sure that's last year? Or is that this year? It might be this year. Now they did, I mean, they drafted Mack. Yeah, but Marlon Mac is not a replacement. He's a replacement for Frank Gore. He is auxiliary. When I look at what I wrote last year and where he was being drafted and what his role is going in.

I literally came into this show thinking I might just use exactly what I wrote last year, keep Frank Gore, who last year ended it at the 704 this year even better at the 706. And we know, you know, he has a chance to finish as that RB12 overall because it's just what Frank Gore does. He's a great value in the seventh row. And the argument against Frank, Frank Gore.

Everything you would try to argue against Frank Gore, you're going to be 100% right about. He's very old, and he's not elusive. In fact, according to Pro Football Focus is elusive rankings. He was second to worst, the second worst, least elusive player in the league behind Dwayne Washington. So Frank Gore is all of what you say he is, but the thing is, he'll finish 12.

Right, he still did last year with that rating. Yeah, he was still not any of the things that you thought you wanted in a running back and yet finished 12. So he's not one of the picks this year. I just had to highlight it because I'm going to put Jason on the spot to kick this off. And obviously, he hit a home run on Frank Gore last year, so he's going to hit a home run for you on. Not only am I going to hit a home run last year on Frank Gore at the 704.

But this year's mid-round madness is also being drafted at the 704. For now. Is it fate? Or is it Joe Mixon. Joe Mixen to me is a guy that is a great, great mid-round value guy right now. If you want to draft a rookie, you want to draft a rookie running back because those are the positions that every single year you end up with one or two multiple top.

running backs. You had Jordan Howard and Ezekiel Elliott this last year. Now, sometimes it costs you that first round, second round value like with Ezekiel Elliott. And you're going to get that this year. If you want Leonard Fournett, he's going in the third round. But I mean, people are like, well, is he going to catch passes? Is that offense going to be any good? We know he's going to get the ball, and I like him a lot. But my number one, you know, projected running back when I was finished doing all the stats for rookies.

was actually Joe Mixon. He was ahead of Christian McCaffrey and ahead of Leonard Fournett. All the news right now seems to be that they are intending to make him the leader of the group there. You've got Geo Bernard coming off his ACL and Jeremy Hill coming off two years in a row of really ineptitude if he's not on the one-yard line, and they're not happy with them. They had to ask permission to the owner.

to take the risk to put themselves out there in the second round to get Joe Mixon. They are as a team invested into Joe Mixon. Talent-wise, nobody denies that Joe Mixon is extremely talented. And when I look at the seventh round, okay, I got six other guys already on my team. I don't, if he ends up just being in a three-way time share, so what. But his upside is...

as a top 10 running back. Let me put you on the spot here, though, because it's not realistic if things trend the way they do for Joe Mixon to be 704. So how much do you stand by Joe Mixon if he slides all the way up to barely being in this mid-round madness? What if he's a late fourth-round pick? What if he's a mid-fourth-round pick? How comfortable would you be? Because I believe his, I mean, it's unrealistic to think 704 is where Joe Mixon's going to go if off-season

camp and preseason say, hey, Joe Mixon is going to have a big role. And you made all the right points because Joe Bernard is coming off the ACL. He's got a bit part. Mixing can catch the ball. Everything's trending that way. I will agree with that. I mean, right now he's going a round or two behind Ty Montgomery, Rob Kelly, Blau Powell, Mike Gillisley. He'll probably jump ahead of those guys. He certainly will. So the question to me is where is he still a value? And I would say what you said, Andy, the back of the fourth.