Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Mid Round Madness + Maaailbag!

If he wants back in, we all make mistakes. Sometimes you leave a league. You're like, oh, man, that league was great. I need to get back in there. But you cannot threaten them. And if you came to me with that threat, you would be out. You'd be out. I put you on the waiting list, and I'd constrict the league to 10. So you got to wait longer. I would immediately start making a new league page and inviting the other owners where I am the commission. That being said, to help you out, Stephen, in Oceanside, New York City.

What we've done in our league a lot of times is our waiting list is comprised of co-owners. So if the league doesn't want to expand and someone's willing to say, hey, come co-own with me this year on the waiting list, then you're kind of in the league and you're the next man out. Yeah, you can go to the draft, participate, trade talks. That is the way to do it. Co-owners are great. Yeah, I agree. And you can blame them. You can blame your colon. Ooh. When something goes wrong. Scapegoat. Hey, Brooks, you want to be my co-owner?

Oh, man. You were a good lady in the water. Hunter in Cleveland. So my league is a bunch of college student athletes and we like to do our draft before everyone goes off to camp, aka we drew our draft early. All right. Is it a viable plan to not draft a kicker defense just to have some depth in case someone gets hurt before the season? Why, of course it is. Absolutely. We talk about this every single year. Know your league rules. If your league rules do not.

explicitly state you have to leave the draft with a kicker in defense. Sometimes it's great. Don't draft one. Hold on to those guys. Or even if it does, if it says you have to, just draft them and drop them and then drop them and pick up other options throughout the camp because who cares what defense and kicker you have by comparison of, hey, I've got this camp.

you know, battle guy that could come out on top who is sitting there on waivers. There's a great article by Ryan Weiss. Uh, rethink your strategy. Don't draft a defense. If you want to look into it more on the fantasy footballers.com, you could check that out. Yeah, I love this, Hunter. Make it, make it happen. David in Western New York, could you explain your draft strategy for drafting sleepers? For example, how many and what rounds? Yeah, I mean, the,

I don't have a rulebook of this many and these rounds are exactly where I go, but I will say this. When I look at my team, I need to make sure I have enough plug-and-play reliable Michael Crabtrees, Larry Fitzgeralds, if you will, to where I am confident that my team is not going to be an abomination. And then after I have enough people to kind of plug in those roles, if need be, everything is sleeper upside breakout huge potential. I don't need to.

I don't really fill, you know, the back half of my roster with very many. Terrence Williams. Middling guys. Exactly. You know who he was. Never draft. The face Mike made when I said Terrence Williams name. He's had opportunity. He's had an opportunity to have upside and he's proven he doesn't have it. So go get someone, you know, I'd much rather have a Josh Doxon who. Sure. That's a sleeper. You know, maybe he ends up as a top 10. How do you define a sleeper, Mike? A sleeper is just.

You know, because I think that matters to how you answer the question. Yeah, it's, for me, it's anybody just after the eighth round that most people are not paying attention to, or maybe people are, but you got to grab them early. So I'm thinking, my strategy is, is eighth round. Once the eighth round hits, I'm going to take guys with upside. All right, we'll have sleepers in the ultimate draft kit, which, by the way, is only nine days away from being released. Oh, my goodness.

So you can get that at ultimate draft kit.com at early bird pricing for nine days. And then it's, well, then it's for sale at the regular price. At regular. It's not gone. At daybird. Then it's actually available. Yeah. Yeah, then it's there. All right. Let's go to Cody and San Antonio.

What is with all the hype surrounding Tyreek Hill on Fantasy Calculator? He is going at pick number 41. I understand the upside with his involvement in special teams. But what jumps out to me is that last year he only had 593 receiving yards and six receiving touchdowns. Would you take them over other people near this pick? And I brought up a couple of these names. So to Mike. Michael Crabtree, Leonard Fornett, Larry Fitzgerald, Torell, Isaiah Crowell. I want all the guys you named over Tyree Kill. Yeah.

I'm not huge on Hill. I understand it's there. You saw it last year. It's sometimes very difficult to argue with the guy. What did he finish? I mean, he was a two, right? He was like 13, I think. Yeah. Depends on the scoring. Here's the reality, and here's what I've come around to on Hill, because if you listen to me on this off season, I like Tyreekill. And I do think Andrew Reed will be creative with Tyreekill in the offense. But the Kansas City offense...

It only has so much oomph, right? If you had this kind of production from Tyree Kill and he was playing for the Green Bay Packers and you told me you're going to get him more involved, I could believe you easier because I know that the volume, the passing volume, the involvement, it would be, look, you could have a quarterback controversy in Kansas City this year. I'm not projecting it. Alex Smith has been solid, but the solid Alex Smith hasn't been enough for that team. You could have...

mid-season Pat Mahomes coming into the lineup. Much like Colin Kaepernick usurped Alex Smith, this might Smith being just fine for San Francisco. But you could have that kind of thing happen if the defense is carrying the team and the offense isn't producing. And then all of a sudden you're sitting there going, boy, I've got a part-time wide receiver with special team skills and a new quarterback. The risks involved with Tyreek Hill outweigh the ones for Crabtree Fitzgerald, prior Corolla, and four set to me. And where are you drafting them?

His range of outcomes, like you brought up with prior, Hill could be very high. If he gets more passing yardage, he could be very high. Yeah, the problem I have, I've shared my strategy in the past that I don't go risk in those first few rounds. The reason why is because when you're grabbing a guy who is being drafted as the 15th positional player off the board, they basically have to come in at that level in order to not be a disappointment. So that's why I go the...

the lacking risk route so that, you know, I can hedge my bets on the disappointing early round guys and then swing for the fences as my draft goes on and my roster safe. I mean, you have a rush, two rushing touchdowns, 68 yards, 70 yards. Can he do that again? Sure. Is he going to do that again? Probably not. And I'm playing with the probability here that he won't. So I'm not going to pay up for him in drafts.

Mike's also made the point that if you don't get points for special teams touchdowns credited to your player, which our league does. A lot of leagues do, a lot of leagues don't. That could have an effect on where you actually value Tyree Kiel. Obviously, if you're in a return league, Tyree Kiel might be a top five wide receiver in that league. Here's a question from Oscar in the Philippines. Oh, bonjour.

Having a two-quarterback league, how early do I take my first and even my second quarterback, love your podcast, year-round listener. Well, thanks for listening, Oscar. All right, two-quarterback league. Well, you hear us talk about late-round quarterbacks, but that all changes in a two-quarterback league. A little bit. For me, it opens the door to you could take a quarterback in the first, and I'm okay with it. I still personally prefer a lev, DJ.

Zeke, even the elite wide receivers. I'm still going to take them over my first quarterback. But the way I handle this is I want a known quarterback. I want at least one of them. He doesn't have... It doesn't have to be Aaron Rogers. It can be Philip Rivers. It can be one of these guys who are a little bit later in the QB1 pecking order. But then later on in the draft, I'm going to take a second, a third, and maybe even a fourth because you're...

streaming goes out the window. That strategy is just not available as readily. There's still going to be people showing up on the waivers that you can pick up if you want, but you most likely just want to make sure you're taking a platoon of guys that you can play the matchups with. Yeah, I would say that's the biggest strategy change for me. When I'm in a normal draft, I draft one quarterback almost always. I mean, if there's some situation where I don't either either there's just an unbelievable value or I don't like the quarterback I have.

You know, I waited so long I want to, but usually in a redraft league, I've got one quarterback leaving that draft. If I'm in a two-quarterback league, I want three starting quarterbacks. You know, I don't want one of those starters to be Jared Goff, hopefully, if you can avoid it. What, like our fantasy pros dynasty team? Well, we had a certain strategy. Play to win now. All right, that is it for today's show.

We'll be back on Thursday with more good stuff, including an extra episode on Thursday for Jointhefoot.com supporters. I want to thank everybody out there for subscribing to the podcast, listening to the fantasy footballers. We're here all offseason long, and it's going to be a great 2017. So hopefully this show helped you out, got you some mid-round targets as well, and we will be back very, very soon. Guys, any parting words? Well, we got to, if you've ever thought, hey, how do I interact with these guys live in real time? We have a live stream.

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