And what he was saying is you don't know after that first breakout week whether or not that was just this one-time thing or whether you actually have something there. And the way he talked about their belief in him going forward as a mismatch tight end, a piece that Steve Kheim said, we haven't had one of those in a while. And now I'm excited about the possibility of having him. That means that the Arizona Cardinals are viewing him as what he has appeared to be the last two weeks, which is a usable weapon.
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 12 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, JULIO-splosion
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 12 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, JULIO-splosion
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142 passagesin the offense. I think Seals Jones is worth probably a pickup stash. I mean, I'm in a situation. I'd give you the smack on the butt to start him if John Brown's out again. Yeah. That would be the smack that you need. Gidea! Yeah. Okay, we are going to jump into our rising stars. Raising Cain's Rising Stars of the Week. All right. It was a matter of time, I guess. But you weren't happy for a long time. But Joe Mixon is my rising star of the week.
He just had a dominant performance on the ground. This was not the two yards of carry. This was a player running with confidence. I think it was a player that you saw the benefit of volume with where you gave him the opportunity to get into a rhythm. They use them in the passing game. And from this point forward, look, we haven't talked about Kareem Hunt yet. We're going to talk about him. But Joe Mixing. Yeah, Jason just made a little bit of a vomit face.
Vomit face? Ugh. Because of the cream hunt situation. But Joe Mixing right now, I mean, what do you want? You want to have 25 plus touches a game? They need him. He's running well. He had the breakout. And yes, next week he's got Pittsburgh. I'm not worried about it. I think that's why he's my rising star. I want you to not be worried about it. Because look at Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams just had a pretty darn good game.
against Pittsburgh defensive front. The volume with the talent will give you enough. He's at least a running back two next week. I completely agree. I love Joe Mixen as a rising star. His college tape was so incredibly full of talented runs, and you haven't seen those this year. And last night or yesterday in the day,
You saw him running like what you saw in college. You saw the patience mid-run. You saw the vision and finding the holes. So maybe it's just taking him a little bit of time to acclimate to the system. And maybe it's taking the Bengals a little bit of time to get their offensive line gel together with so many new pieces. But I agree. Mixing looks great. I'm going to start him next week and rest of season because he's a 20-carry-a-game type of player.
My rising star this week, I alluded to it earlier, it's Jamal Williams, solely because I'll be honest. I didn't think Jamal Williams was any good. What I had seen earlier in the season before the injury, I just thought, I mean, from before that injury, I thought Aaron Jones was the better player. He came out. He proved me right, so I really, I think that made me think, okay, Jamal Williams stinks. But he doesn't. He was pretty darn good last night.
He's running with power. And this is back-to-back games where he's caught four balls. And if you're involved in the passing game, I mean, he had four receptions for 69 yards in a touchdown last night to go with 20 plus carries, another 66 yards and a touchdown on the ground. So look, Ty Montgomery is coming back. I think you're going to experience what you saw when Ty Montgomery came back when Aaron Jones was the guy, which was.
Ty Montgomery was kind of healthy to play, healthy enough to play football. Yeah, and not only that, but when he came back and they thought he was, Ty Montgomery was the backup. And Aaron Jones was the starter. And as far as, you know, utilization. So I think Jamal Williams retains the job. All right, real quick, Jay Gris, do you have any rising stars? No, he said none. You want to know why? Because I just added up every player on the entire.
Chicago Bill's offense. Chicago Bills! Did I say Bill? You sure did. Chicago Bears' offense, obviously J. Gris is his favorite team. I just added up every player, every wide receiver, every running back, every quarterback, every single player that touched the ball and could put up any fantasy points whatsoever. The entire team put up 26 fantasy points this week. Woo! The leading scorer was Don Trell Inman with 8.4 points. The second highest scorer.
was Jordan Howard with 3.6 points in our league of record. That's a probably lower total in your league. Dantrell-inman, 4-4-4 with 9 targets. Pure embarrassment about the Bears this week from Jay Gris. For sure. That was. That was the Raising Cains Rising Stars. The week's segment. Remember that game day tastes better with Raising Cain's tailgates full of fresh 24-hour marinated, hand-battered, chicken fingers, and fresh-brewed sweet tea. Visit raising canes.com to visit.
Your nearest location. Pooped in his big boy pants. All right. I'm going to make an executive decision here amongst this group. Okay. Which is me and you. Our show is going to go a little longer. I want to focus on the major poopers because the storylines there, people need answers and they need them now. And I'm going to start at the quarterback position. I'm going to only give you one name because the diapers.
They're piling up. It's Dak Prescott, 20 for 27, 179, two bad interceptions. We need to understand what to do with him. He has Washington at home this week. He has the Giants on the road and then Oakland. But then he plays Seattle in the championship week. I don't think people want to start him now. No. I mean, I can tell you. Brooks, do you want to start him as a cowboy fan?
No. No, you don't want to start him. I've been the biggest DAC supporter from middle of last year. He's one of the three my guys this year. He's looked awesome. But now this is three weeks in a row where he has been a train wreck. And when you watch this last week, this last week, Tyrone Smith, the left tackle was back. The pressure on DAC was not nearly as bad as DAC was reacting to it. And running into it.
a mess, and he is above the shoulders right now. He's in a bad, bad place. And I'm going to put the blame on not just missing Zeke, which hurts a ton from a defensive accountability standpoint, what they have to look for with Zeke. It is on Des. Des, Brian, say whatever you want about the matchups he had. He's not a wide receiver won in the NFL right now. There is no question about that. The separation that he's not getting.
Week to week to week. He is not the same player. He's not playing like a one. Then, Dak doesn't have a one. You get Terrence Williams, old Jason Witten, and another two. That's the problem to me. It's part of the problem, not the problem. Yeah, I'm going to put this.
almost squarely on the shoulders of deck. I agree that Des Bryant is not an NFL wide receiver one caliber this season. Amazingly, according to next-gen stats, his separation when...
he's been targeted is better. Des Bryant's, he's had more separation this year than last year. Zero 100 yard games for the entire year. Well, and if you look at his yards per reception, it's very anti what Des has done his whole career. It's, it's low. I mean, DAC is the checkdown machine right now. He's afraid to go long. His ball doesn't look good. He's throwing interceptions. He's making bad decisions. He's running into sacks. You have to bench Dak.
And find another option. Find another option off of waiver wires. I'm starting Case Keenham over DAC until Dak just comes back. Because Dak was too good for too long for me to say he's just now a bad quarterback. But he needs a bounce back game before you can have confidence. Absolutely. And we want you to have a firm decision and thought process from us. By the way, pro bowler, Zach Martin, he left the game with a concussion. We don't know his status for the upcoming week, which could hurt Dak again. Running back pooper of
The century. Of the century right now. Kareem Hunt, 11 for 17, no touchdowns for I think eight straight games now. And here's one of the issues with Kareem Hunt. Looks like you were right on the Camara versus Hunt decision from a couple weeks ago. You said go Camara. And you said you were talking about the carries. I mean, you nailed that one. The Jets, Oakland, Chargers. Thank you, Jason.
The Jets, Oakland, Chargers, and Miami are the next four games for Cream Hunt. Oh, they look like such good matchups. That's the problem. Now, I'm not benching him. I'm not binging cream hunt. I think everybody on there that has them right now wants to be told to do that. I'm not going to do it. I do think that this team is still going to have some fight left in them. The matchups on paper are there. Now, Alex Smith, they said he's not going to get benched. Andy Reid said that. The decision making by Andy Reid right now, it stinks.
But 11 carries. I know you're not letting him get into a rhythm, but only 17 yards. What level of panic are you in for Kareem Hunt? And how much is that beginning of the season going to saturate your mind as a fantasy owner that forces you into playing him no matter what? Yeah, it definitely is going to. I mean, you saw what he can do. And so you are forced to play him essentially no matter what.
Last week he had 18 carries this week only 11, but the reality is he's not running well at all. The first five possessions for the Kansas City Chiefs were three and outs. And then on the final drive, the sixth possession where they finally went down and scored on a field goal, Kareem Hunt wasn't in the game. So I would say panic alert is on high. Yeah, absolutely. But...
I do agree with you, unlike what we're saying with DAC where you say you've got to bench him. I think you have to, unless you have an unbelievably good option ahead, you still have the primary ball carrier as a running back, which is rare to find. He is clearly the lead dog and the matchups are good. I think you still have to start him and you just need to temper expectations and make the rest of your decisions in your lineup.
differently because you can no longer assume, okay, I'm getting 20 points from Kareem Hunt. You now need to go, I'm hoping for double digits. I want 10 out of him, so maybe I go swing for the fences at my flex position a little bit more. Help me decide on some of these other running back poopers, whether this is a commercial break that you're fast forwarding through and ignoring, or whether this is something that you're concerned about the rest of the year. Now, Jordan Howard had one of the worst games.
You can imagine. Commercial break. Fast forward, click the 30 second skip. You're fine. Seven for six for nothing, but he gets San Francisco at home next week and he's going to run probably four to five thousand times. Yeah, absolutely. Jordan Howard is my pooped in his pants that I am the least worried about. I am worried about J.J.I. I'm very worried about J.J.I. Five for 26. Did nothing. Fumbled. Corey Clement is maybe the best running back on that team. Le Gariblo, great.
LaGarrette Blancet. And JJ, I don't know what it is. I don't know if Philadelphia wants to save him for the playoffs because they're concerned about the bumps and bruises. I actually think that what they want is exactly what they're getting. I think they want. A burst play here and there and that's it? Yeah. I mean, I actually believe that they want to use the rest of the season in the playoffs.
They don't want to give it to JJ. So not a commercial break. Not a commercial break. Now here's the thing. With that offensive line, we've already seen, he can break long plays. He did it in this game. That fumble you were talking about was a 30-plus yard carry where he was going into the end zone fumbled. And it turned out to be a touchdown as Nelson Aguilar recovered the ball in the end zone.
And so you're going to be able to play JJ, but you are not going to be able to be confident in him being the lead dog. This will be a three-headed dog from here through the Super Bowl. So many dogs. As far as they go. So many dogs. Rough, rough. Rough. I'd rather play a lot of players than J.J.I. right now. Especially with Seattle on the docket next week than the Rams, both on the road. Mark Ingram, commercial break? I think, I think absolutely. Yeah, I mean, Mark Ingraham's been un-
unbelievably good. Just hit that skip button. You're fine. Leonard Fournett. I'm a little worried. The Arizona Cardinals rushing defense at home is very good. And so there's plenty of reason to be worried because he hasn't really looked that great. But again, similar to Kareem Hunt, he is the clear lead dog. Well, what do you think of the three straight possessions that Yeldin was the running back? And Fournette had his helmet off on the sideline.
