Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 11 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Updates

We're seeing kind of a repit that deja vu with the Seattle offense last year. Complete repit, as you said. Dang it. I feel like I owe it to the world now to make sure these are mentioned so that they become something. Because last week, I let one go where he said, I'm going to sneak it in or sneak in. These guys sneak out to me. Yeah, these guys totally sneak out. Sneak out and then shave something about everything but.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was just, yeah. We're talking about shaving. All right. So you're in with Thomas Rawls as a rising stuff. For sure. So I completely agree with yours. Now, Jason, it is Thanksgiving week. Yeah. And look, they call me double stuff mostly because I'm fat. I love to eat. I did wear my double stuff shirt out of Thanksgiving meal this past week. It is incentive. As you should. And so I'm going to go with fat Rob.

who's endearing himself to all of us, Robert Kelly. I feel it's my duty to say that Robert Kelly is a rising star because he now has a firm hold on that starting job. I'm not worried about Matt Jones. Robert Kelly, in his three games as the starter, has not fumbled the ball, which is the entire, you know, the main reason why Matt Jones got the backseat in those three games.

as a starter. And keep in mind, you know, Cincinnati, that first game, okay, they used to be a good defense. They're not really good anymore. Minnesota, well, they're a pretty good defense. I know they've given up some on the ground lately. Green Bay has got a great running defense. And so you kind of say, well, is he somewhat matchup proof in the last three games? You have Rob Kelly averaging.

107 yards and 1.3 touchdowns per game. But more importantly than the yards and the touchdowns, which you just can't always predict, he's averaging 22.33 carries per game. That is awesome. If you are averaging over 20 carries a game for a team that has Kirk Cousins and Crowd Add and Reed and Garson and...

D-Jacks and even Vernon Davis, you just have too many weapons. You're not stacking the box, right? You're not coming up with the Todd Gurley game plan where you're going, okay, we're just going to put every stop 30. Yeah, I mean, you cannot focus on the run. If you focus against the run on Washington, they're just going to throw all over you. So I believe that Rob Kelly, look, he's got a very poor schedule coming up. The rest of the way, every game is difficult. Every game is tough.

and I think he's going to be okay. It reminds me of Jonathan Stewart on his eight-game 20-carry streak last year, where it was just every game, as long as this team is not way behind, that's the problem. If this team does get way behind in any of these next matchups, Dallas, Arizona, Philly, Carolina, Chicago. Sure. If they get way behind, it's going to be the Chris Thompson show, isn't it? Well, yeah, it could be. I think that Kelly will still be involved, but the great news, I mean, Dallas is their solid offense.

Arizona's offense stinks. Philadelphia's offense. Stings. Carolina. They stink. Chicago's offense. They stink. I mean, bad defensive matchups, but you don't have to worry about the boat. Usually those are okay for running backs like Rob Kelly. And also, I will just throw this out because if you're looking at the box score, you don't see it.

He was involved in the passing game this week, and you go, wait, he had zero receptions. How was he involved in the past game? There were a couple of targets to him that looked like good plays, but they were just a little off the mark, and he is not a great enough pass catcher to grab those really difficult. You know, they were behind him. They were low. All right. Those were the Raising Cains Rising Cains Rising Stars of the Week. Remember, Game Day tastes better with Raising Cain's Tailgates full of fresh 24-hour, marinated, hand-battered chicken fingers.

and that fresh-brewed sweet tea. Sweet tea, so good. Visit raising canes.com. Find your nearest location. Ebron, Rawls, and Kelly. All right, we're moving. We're moving on. Nobody wants to talk about them, but we got to. You got to do it. They did it. Poopped in his big boy pants. Joining Jason's club. Yeah. All right, let's talk about the guys that laid an egg this week. They, you know, what we want to know now about.

these poopers as they be as they were is will they continue struggling for you or will they bounce back in their next matchups um we have tyrod taylor in this list do you believe do you think he pooped the bed yeah he's because he ran another touchdown in yeah but he i don't believe no he did what did he i'm i believe so i'm maybe i'm wrong well you can bet that while you bet that no he he did not i'm wrong yeah sorry about that say it was it was a

Yeah, he laid an egg. He laid a huge egg. When you looked at his final production, I believe it was his second or third worst game of the season. I mean, he had been just rolling along. Like I said, Robert Woods going down early. Lost McCoy. McCoy went down extremely early. He missed the entire second half. I mean, the team changes when your weapons are gone. They had to lean on Mike Gillisley, who looked fantastic in replacement.

But you had to lean on that running game. So it took the wind out of Tyrod's sales. Do you have enough confidence with the injuries to start him next week against Jacksonville? I think he is. It's scary. You're absolutely right. It is scary. He is a high upside streamer, which, you know, if your waiver wire is low and you don't have a lot of good options, I would be okay to stream him against Jacksonville. My expectations.

are not very high for him. So he always has been to me and will continue to be a weekly matchup streaming option. I'm not going to overreact to this one. This was in Cincinnati with the weapons going down. Previous six weeks, 20 or more fantasy points, including multiple 30-point games. Jacksonville's at home. Then you go on the road against Oakland, very beatable defense. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, at home. All three of Tyrod Taylor's playoff matchups are at home. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Miami.

I think he's worth overlooking this circumstance because of how consistent he had been on the year. That's my take on. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. But look, and then the potential of Sammy Watkins coming back into the fold. That would be humongous. McCoy is supposed to be back next week. Yeah. So, I mean, those are big, I think those are reasons to give him the benefit of the doubt after one down week. That would be my take. Sure. You know, another one will give the benefit of the doubt on after one terrible week.

Is Big Ben Rothlessburger? Will we? Well, yeah, because we know why he did it. It was on the road. And granted very, very windy conditions. But isn't he going on the road again next week? He is. He's going on the road to Indianapolis. Well, that'll be easier. That will be a little bit better. In a dome. In a dome will help him. But it was just funny that you had this, okay, we've got Big Ben on the road. We know the historic splits are bad. But it's the Cleveland Browns. Well.

Even Brobeek Ben was not impervious to that. I said this last week, and granted, we took a look and said, you know, look, the Cleveland matchup, he should still be okay. But we brought up the fact that there's probably some better options because he was one on the road, two bad windy conditions. And three, he lost half of his wide receiving options. Sammy Coates was gone. Marcus Wheaton was gone. Darius Hayward Bay was injured. Everybody. I don't want to play him anymore. On the road. I.

Okay, but he's got his only home game in the next four weeks is New York, the Giants. I don't, and sure, you can play him, but he's played, he started eight games this year. Four of those eight games, zero or one touchdown. So to me, that sounds like Big Ben. Yeah. I know. I'm just saying it's like, and Big Ben is somebody I don't want to start. Yeah, and five of those games, he's got.

More than three touchdowns. He either is on fire or he's off. But I don't want the coin flip in the playoffs. I'm fine. I agree with that in the playoffs. I'm certainly going to play him week 13 at home against the Giants. I will find a better option in my first playoff week than Big Ben at home against the Giants. You won't find a better option than Big Ben at home against the Giants. Okay. Tyrod Taylor? Oh, are we going to make a week 13 bet already? Because I'm on board. Man, we have not been making enough bets. Well, let's do it.

Because I just found a winner. I don't know if I want to take Tower of Taylor. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Because he's on the road against Oakland. I don't feel good enough about that. But I do think you will find other players. Philip Rivers in week 13 is a better start. Big Ben will have six touchdowns in week 13. I'll take that water back. No, no, no. All right, no, let's do this. Instead of me picking another player, because it's very arbitrary, because you said there's no other ones, but I would pick Philip Rivers if you want that one. But.

Let's just pick where Big Ben finishes. All right. Big Ben will be a top six quarterback. In week 13? Yeah. Oh my goodness. What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm so thankful because I was so close to saying top 10 and I wanted him to pitch it first. I went safe. I'm telling you. I'm telling you I went safe with six. The guy that just played Cleveland and scored 11 fantasy points is now safe at home against the Giants who are seven and three. Look, he either is a top.

three quarterback or he's a bottom 10 quarterback every single week. So that's why you went safe because he's either going to be, if you hit, you hit. All right, we got to fly through some of these other ones here. Matthew Stafford. Let a lot of people down. All the other than Ebron, all of the passing, the weapons there. Golden Tate, Stunk, Marvin Jones, stunk. Can you cut Marvin Jones?

Yeah, I mean, if you need to, if there's a better option out on waivers, you don't overreact and just flat cut him because you're pissed at him. But he is an option where it's like, oh, there's a guy I really need. Marvin Jones is expendable. Martin Jones has one reception the past two weeks. He hasn't had more than four since week four. What's the lion's upcoming schedule? Minnesota, New Orleans, Chicago, New York. Okay. So the Giants. Well, he'll be good in that New Orleans game.

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, that's rough. It's not a good situation. And you know what? Marvin Jones is the worst. You want to know why? Because Marvin Jones flashed insane numbers to start the year and made everybody feel like they can't trade him or do anything. I saw so many people start DeAndre Hopkins this week, which, okay, you can start DeAndre Hopkins, but over lots of options. Like James and Crowder, like a bunch of different players that the numbers would tell you if you didn't have Hopkins name in it,

The numbers would tell you, I'm just going to start this guy. I'm going to start Steve Smith. I'm going to start James and Crowder. Like I said, the imprint of the beginning of the year. It makes such a difference. And for Hopkins, it was just having an elite year last year. Yeah. Running backs that laid an egg this week, we're going to go with Isaiah Crowell. Oh, man. That, you know, rough. Yeah, he's had some of these lately. Hopefully you don't have to lean on Crowell right now because.

It's Cleveland. I mean, they can't figure anything out. There's no consistency to their offense. Well, and the reality to me with Crowell is you have three weeks in a row now where he does not have 10 carries. He is nine or less carries in three games in a row. If you are playing a matchup where you're going to get down and you're the Cleveland Browns, you very well might be. I am not starting Crowell in those matchups. Pretty disappointing performance from

Spencer, where? Hugely disappointed. Because just Tampa had given up 113, 114, and 115 on the ground the last three weeks against Oakland, Atlanta, Chicago. Now they're in Kansas City, and Rawls does nothing to help you win your team or when your matchup. What? Where?

What did I say? Rawls. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, where? In Kansas City and it's, oh, that was very confusing. Yeah, so, so. I was talking about where. Yeah, where, he didn't completely crap your team. No, he was, he was okay. Just compared to expectations was bad. Yeah, very disciplined. 69 yards, no touchdowns. Similar. Similar. I would say this week to Jay Ajai, right? He still had 77 yards on the ground, you know, caught three catches for seven yards. So it was like, but, but he was.

Very disappointing for what you hope. That being said, we saw what we talked about last week where when the Dolphins' offensive line is missing important weapons, and they even in that game, despite already being down to starting options, they lost Laramie Tunsell. That game, I mean, we have to watch the...

you know, the practice reports this week for their offensive line. Right, because, and Albert might be as well. If those two are back, then you go, okay, this is good. I mean, they've got a great matchup, right? They play San Francisco next week. What are the odds that Ajai catches more catches next week? I think he's going to catch every reception he has. He's going to catch all the receptions. All of the receptions he will have caught successfully. Time Montgomery officially went into retirement.