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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 11 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Updates

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One of those guys is able to give a little bit more juke and get free, and that's Dionne Lewis. I believe Dionne Lewis is the better player, but they are not going to go away from James White, which means Dionne Lewis is not going to have that role that he had last year, and I think you're going to. That's a very poor outlook. Yeah, and I was going to say, I mean, you're stating that as fact now, which means have you conceded to that? Right now. I mean, it's too early because this is the first week of Dionne Lewis really being back.

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That's the way that I see it going. I don't see a chance for James White to continue being what he was when he had all of it. There is still the chance that Lewis takes over. But I guess my point is, you know, it's not going to be James White, despite the fact that he had the better fantasy game this week. All right. Wide receiver stud muffins this week. The big guys, Des Bryant, eight for six for 80 and two touchdowns. Great performance from Des.

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Beasles got in the end zone, too, by the way. Of course. I heard you. But who was the number one on that team? Yeah. Yeah. It was Des Bryant. However, I heard you. They didn't stop all of Twitter going Beasles crazy. Oh, Beasles got it first. I know. All right. So, you know, you're starting Des Bryant at this point.

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I don't think you have any debate there, but there are a lot of wide receiver studs this week that have question marks for next week and whether or not you feel confident putting them in the lineup. Everybody's got these tough decisions. I had to face it this week. I had to decide basically, you know, Duante Adams, Steve Smith, or Terrell Pryor. Every week, these kind of wide receiver two-range guys, you're like, which one do I roll into your lineup? It's going to be weather, it's going to be matchup, it's going to be a bunch of different factors. So let's talk about some of them. Look, Pierre Garcin.

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A lot of talk about him being really involved this week. It came to fruition. Six for 116 in a touchdown. Steve Smith, eight for 99 in a touchdown, again having a very productive day. Clearly the guy there in Baltimore. Yeah, the eight receptions is what you love to see because that's what Steve Smith has done his whole career and he's healthy enough to do it again. And if he's getting that kind of target volume, that kind of reception totals, then he's going to be fantasy.

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relevant and a weekly must play, I think. I will, yeah, I agree he's a weekly must play, but I will throw it. The Ravens completely abandoned the run in the second half. I mean, I'm talking they just, they did not run at all. So that also helped with Steve Smith, but I agree he's still, he's a weekly guy going forward. So, Mike, let me ask you about Julian Edelman, because you, you know, you watch this game very, very closely as a Julian Edelman owner. Yes.

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Was he the benefactor of Grunk not being there and playing against a poor San Francisco 49ers? Because he had a great game. Eight for 77 and a touchdown. Also had two carries for 12 yards. Can fantasy owners expect that going forward against the New York Jets next week? I don't think you can expect 17 targets. These guys were giving me a hard time here because I'm over here. Appropriately.

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Well, yeah. Both of our fantasy teams are struggling and you're sitting there going another stupid target for Edelman that he doesn't catch. Yeah. I've only got 15 points. If you had Edelman, I mean, the monster game, great game. But it was frustrating seeing how many yards were left on the field here where Tom was just missing him. Moving forward though, Edelman, I think Edelman's back in that wide receiver two position where it's been the last couple weeks now that Tom Brady is.

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They're like, you know what? Maybe my BFF jewels needs to get some targets here. Let me ask you this question, guys. If you had to decide rest of season between Smith, Senior, Julian Edelman, as we just talked about, or another stud muffin this week, Doug Baldwin, who threw a touchdown pass and was 4-4-104 through the air. He's been very good lately. If you had to choose the rest of season, are you deciding based on next week's matchup or some other factor, and who would you pick? It's close to me between...

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I think when you're talking to all three of those guys, and I like all three, I prefer Doug Baldwin and Julian Edelman. And so when I look at those two guys, the reason I prefer them is just offense. I think that those two offenses are going to score a lot more points than the Ravens will. And you've seen them be very involved. I go kind of back and forth, right? I like the offense better for New England. I like the playoff schedule a little bit better for Seattle.

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I think it's a matter of, they're both the same type of guy, too, where you're going to get a lot of that slot, sometimes moving out, slide, roll. I think I would take Julian Edelman, just because you have Tom Brady, who has looked much more hot than Russell Wilson this year. It's a scoring format to me. PPR, I'll take Jules standard. I would take Baldwin.

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So Smith's not in the consideration? Not over the, I love Steve Smith, but not over those two guys. We, it's, it's talking about deja vu from Rashad Jennings. That's what the Seahawks are doing, where Russell Wilson was almost a non-factor for half the season. They finally get it going. And you can see that with the ascension of Doug Baldwin and that team is, they're putting up points. And I think that's going to continue.

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All right, Devante Parker, Malcolm Mitchell, Jameson Crowder, and Richard Matthews all had big weeks. I think the headliner for me is Richard Matthews put together a fantasy relevant day without a touchdown. 13 targets, 9 for 1, 22. They almost came back and won that game. He's become the one. I think that's official, right? I mean, he seems to be the dominant target, at least this game, clearly. And for a passing game that has not slowed down in the slightest.

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I think you have to just stay in those flames and start him right now until proven otherwise. Yeah, Richard Matthews, maybe it's a little over the line here, but Richard Matthews reminds me a lot of Robinson from last year. The team has this stink of a reputation of surrounding them, of the offense is bad. That's what Alan Robinson was last year. Can I really keep trusting this guy with Blake Bortles throwing the ball? It's the Jaguars. They're historically...

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bad their offense is always terrible but robinson kept getting it done richard matthews same thing the titans and you have mariotta on this unbelievable nuclear hot streak going and like jason said richard matthews is turning into the number one target for him he was their big offseason free agent acquisition he's i think he's a good wide receiver every time i watch him he passes the eyeball test and now he's really getting involved so it's that

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It just feels gross. But once when you get to the off season and everything is done, everything's completed, all his numbers are there, you're going to look back and go, wow, Richard Matthews was really good. Is Jameson Crowder the one? I would say yes, unless it's Jordan Reed. As far as wide receivers.

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As far as the number one wide receiver on that team, I think it's Jameson Crowder. We said, I realize, you know, he got fewer receptions than Garsohn this last week. But he has, just like Rashad Matthews, he's been so good for so long. This whole season, I mean, you've had one kind of meh game, one dud out of Crowder, and the rest have all been good fantasy productive games where you are not.

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unhappy if you start Jameson Crowder. It's Crowder. It's Crowder. The two players that were stud muffins at the wide receiver position this week that I think are most likely to disappoint you next week are Devante Parker and Malcolm Mitchell. It was a unique situation for Mitchell. Obviously, the majority of his production came on the 55-yard bomb, whatever that was, 56-yard. Devante Parker put together a heck of a last series.

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I do think he's worth a flyer, right? This is production from Devante Parker in consecutive weeks. He's had a few flashes. Always impressed. And he has San Francisco next week. So I want to keep the door, I want to keep your door open for Parker as a streamer. Let's get through these tight ends really quickly before we get into our rising stars. The tight end that everyone's going to be talking about, and there was a tweet from Jamie Eisenberg about this, it's Jared Cook.

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Okay, Jared Cook had six for 105 in a touchdown. Last night just came out of nowhere. He said, Eisenberg said everyone will add Jared Cook this week. Everyone will be disappointed by Jared Cook next week. I agree 100%. It's what Cook does. There's too many targets in Green Bay. Obviously, he benefited from Devante Adams having a lower target game.

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He also did what, you know, with this joke of, well, he's going to make you happy this week and then he'll disappoint you next week. That was meta in that game. I mean, he was so important to Green Bay and then he was the one that ruined the game at the end when he fumbled away the opportunity to come and be relevant and win the game. Just part for the course. It's just a quick aside. Was that Jordy Nelson catch?

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The touchdown. Was that a catch? What do you think, Jay? I went back and forth, but I believe it was a catch because the end zone rules are slightly different in the sense that as soon as you have possession, like the second you've got it, you're good, up, unless you're going to the ground. And then in which case rules change. But the point is, you know, he had it. The ball was across the, you know, the plane. So it's a touchdown and then it got knocked out. It's irrelevant. I thought it was a drop.

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Eric Ebron and Travis Kelsey had big weeks at the tight-in position. Two stud muffins for you. Kelsey, seven for 108, looked good. Eric Ebron. We're going to talk about them in a minute. Yeah. Yeah, Kelsey's got Denver next week, and sometimes you kind of need that tight-end roll because their corners are so good at locking down your wide receivers. So Kelsey could be a very good start next week as well. Raising Cains, Rising Stars of the Week.

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I do want to remind you that all the studs from today's show will be an article form on the website shortly after the show is out. That is the fantasy footballers.com if you want to review some of them. We're now talking Raising Cain's Rising Stars of the Week. We're picking out some names we think will make a big difference coming up very soon. So Mike, I just talked about him. Let's let you kick this off. Eric Ebron. Eric Ebron. Look, three straight weeks of 70 plus yards. When he's been healthy.

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He's been fantastic. Eric Ebron has that unfortunate beginning of the season bias against him where, I mean, he came out, had a couple good games, but then he was hurt. So you just, while you're imprinting what's going on with the season, Eric Ebron was kind of, well, we're just going to lump him back in with the barfie tied ends. He is, he is not. Look, like I said, three straight weeks, 70 plus yards.

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Now, he's probably not on your waiver wires, 70% owned, but there is a possibility that he is. Zach Miller went down, Vernon Davis had an unfortunate game, Jack Doyle. I mean, like, there's Barfey tied ends, and then there's Eric Ebron. I think that he is not in a Jordan Reed class, but he is, he's managed to put on some sewer boots and he can stand above. Is he in the Travis Kelsey class? Yes, yeah, that's a perfect comparison where.

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Delaney Walker. He's a weekly start. He ran in a tight end or he ran a touchdown in. So there's, look, the guy's athletically gifted, first round pick. Matthew Stafford is looking to him. And even with the Lions having a really bad offensive game. And look, the Lions, I think that the way to approach the Lions moving forward, you look at their opponents and that's how they're going to play.

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That's what the lines do. But even with a bad offensive performance, Eric Ebron was still great. So Minnesota next week. Eric Ebron's fine. To me, I think Eric Ebron is still a week. And he's got New Orleans and then he has into the playoffs of Chicago, the Giants, and Dallas. I think he's fine. I think you're right. I'm going to go with Thomas Rawls. It's my raising cane. What was that? That's got a problem in your engine.

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Well, I, that's a core. The oil, the oil's a little old. It's been sitting in a dusty old, musty, back to the future garage. This is a Rolls Royce from like the 50s. Like you have to crank it? Apparently. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here I come. To save the day, blah, blah, blah, blah. Driving in my automobile. All right. Let's leave the sound effects to the pros, okay? Let's give the Rolls Royce a four-point inspection.

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We've got, he passed the running hard inspection, the looking good inspection, the great offense inspection, and the all alone in the backfield inspection. Yes. He's ready to rumble. Hopefully he's already on your roster and you don't have to fight for him on waiver wire this week. But look, Rawls is a guy that can win you your roster. I was going to say if he's not on your roster and if he is on waivers, fight hard. Fight. Because, I mean, Mike just brought this up that.

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