Panic Players + Trade Talk, Combo Platters - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4

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The Fantasy Footballers podcast Wednesday edition. Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Excited to be with you today. Hungry for more fantasy football. Starving. Chatter. Now, I just noticed you're not in a hat today, Jason. I am not in a hat today, Andy. You broke a really long streak there. That was a hat streak. It was a hat. Yeah, they call it a hat trick. A hot hat streak. A hot hat streak. Hot hat street. So, um, Congratulations. Thank you. I'm getting a haircut today. Oh, are you? Yeah. So you don't want to go to the haircut place without your hair done? Yeah. If you go to the haircut place with with hat. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. You're getting the haircut today. Later this afternoon. So today is the first day in, I don't know, at least a month. Right. That you're not wearing a hat. Correct. Because your hair is at a point now where you're like, this is unmanageable. I need to go get it fixed. Right. But I'm going to show.

the hundreds of thousands of people on our YouTube. You're welcome. You can't show up to the barber with hat hair. Exactly. He gets it. I frequently show up with hat hair. What are you talking about? Mike has no idea because when Mike takes his hat off, take your hat off, Mike. It's not good. Your hair looks. That's actually pretty bad. Your hair looks fantastic. Your hair looks like Stamos. If I'm a vampire, like in the Twilight series. Today is not your day. No, because this was wet shower hair that I just, I had to throw a hat on. All right. If you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment whether or not you, if you're going to get your hair cut, would you want to go in with hat hair or not hair? I choose to believe that the barber can figure it out. Yes. With calyx and all. Do they not like when you sit down and they start going to get it wet? They sprays your hair. Do they just cut everything's dry?

What bar are you going to? Yeah. Wait a minute. They wet your hair. Yes. So what if it doesn't matter if you have hat hair. This is the thing your hair because they wet it down and they mess it up. The last thing Jason, the last thing Jason wanted was the one day he chose not to where I have me to immediately draw attention to it for a five minute discussion. Like. The fact that owl immediately came to your defense. I can't believe that. I can't believe people live like this. Oh, yeah. I think the vast majority of people live like that. No. The vast majority. Your hair gets out of most people. The hair gets out of control. That's when the hat goes on. You're the other producer with hair here. Would you want to wear a hat to the haircut? I'm with Mike on this one. I'm going to the barber wearing my hat and they can fix it after. That's stupid.

No. This is absurd. You should get a discount on your haircut if you set them up for such success. You should. They're not making them work. Look, I don't make them work a whole lot anyways. Oh, boy, welcome in. You noticed Judge Diomati had no contribution. You don't want to, you don't want to jump in here, Brooks. I don't need no haircuts. Yeah. Don't need them. Don't need them. Don't need them. Is there a place for bald guys to just go hang out for about 20 minutes? There you go. They can set that up. Welcome in. Reminder. Drop it like it's hot. Waivers just went through in our league. They went through in your league. Check on who has been released into the general population. I mean, interesting spending on the Jaleel McLaughlin across our leagues. It just shows to me the desperation for running back.

and any chance, right? I mean, the spinning was up there. Are you that much of a believer in Jalil? So I do like the talent. I like what coach John Peyton says about him. I like that he was more explosive than Somaget P. Ryan, who honestly has not looked like good this year passing the eyeball test. That being said, no, I don't want to spin up on a guy where we don't even know at this point if Javante Williams will. miss any games. And he could be the third string running back this week that you're spending a giant chunk of your, I mean, the two leagues that I've looked at this morning that went through was 25 and over 40 on your fab. I'm not spending a quarter to almost half of my fab on someone that legitimately could be the backup to the backup this week. And we just, the opportunities weren't through the roof. I mean, it was the same as P. Ryan pretty much. And the other thing is we, we had the show yesterday and it was a, it was a.

a barren wasteland of a waiver wire to some degree. And there was nobody at the running back position that we were above 10% fab on. Yeah. Having said all that, I do think Javante misses this week. So I think you're buying yourself someone who's going to get opportunities at least for one week. Yeah. And maybe more. And I don't know. Buy weeks. And maybe like maybe the what the Broncos has been missing is this type of speed at the running back position. They've been missing a whole lot. Yes, they have. Oh, you know what they've been missing at wide receiver? A really speedy outside guy that could catch 40-yard bombs like crazy. Let's just, they don't need Marvin Mims. Keep them on the sideline. It's going to be your weekly call out for Marvin Mims, hungry for more. You're always going to be hungry. I said this. We were coming up with the Hungry for More segment today yesterday and looking at all the different players. I said, can I just every single week say it's Marvin Mims? I'm super hungry for more Marvin Mims.

Get him on the field. You need him. He's done nothing but show out. Stop putting him on the sign line. You need to call up the Panthers and convince them to trade for Judy. No. Mims. You can find us on X at theFF ballers. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. And the website is the fantasy footballers.com. Tons of free. articles coming out every day. We got the free app on the app store, on the Google Play Store. Just search for the fantasy footballers. All right, let's jump in. Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eads. All right, we are looking at some players that have been delivering over the last couple of weeks. Maybe on the cusp of being on fire even, Mike. Who's your Hungry for More pick this week? It is Alex.

Ander Madison. I was going to go with Alex Madison, but it felt wrong. I thought you were trying to rebrand him. Yeah, maybe. Maybe after these two weeks, that's what he needed. And maybe he just needed a little bit. Lexi Madison. Maybe he just needed a little more competition to truly light that fire. Or perhaps he just needed the team to actually give him some volume, which they have done the last two weeks. The past two weeks we're talking about 18 and a half attempts on average over the last two games. Over five yards a carry. Yes, Kamakers is still a concern because Madison saw the lowest snap count of the season here in week four. But in two weeks, when they're actually dedicating themselves to getting him the ball, he is getting it going. And he, with Kamakers on the team, I can't imagine that Madison truly hits that hope, the ceiling that we had in the draft season,

the Madison Truthers had in the draft season that maybe he finishes as a fringe RB1 because of the volume. But maybe he's better than we've seen in those first couple weeks. And we have an actual running back two here. Jason, if you had two guests, because I don't know if you have this number on the top of your head, where do you believe Madison is through four weeks in running back rankings? I think in running back rate, like where he is currently, he's the running back. I would guess he's around 18. Yeah, he's at 20. Okay. How many rushing touchdowns does he have this year? Oh, I know that one. Zero? Zero. Yeah. So, you know, when you look at all things considered, 4.6 to carry last week, it was a good matchup against the Chargers, 5.6 this past week against Carolina on the road. He's sitting at running back 20.

With, I think, a single touchdown? With one receiving touchdown on the year and no rushing touchdowns. And so you look at that and you say, okay, he's kind of held it together. I mean, week two was brutal against Philly, but, you know, that's not unexpected on the road against Philadelphia, needing to come back, needing to throw the football only eight opportunities. And he's not on an offense that you project won't score touchdowns as a whole. Oh, yeah. You know, you look at Damien Pierce. And you say, okay, I'm not sure how many touchdowns they'll get. Maybe they will with C.J. Stroud. Maybe it'll be better than expectations. But you know what the Vikings, like they're going to put up points. So the touchdowns at the end of the year, it's not like Madison's going to have three total touchdowns through 17 weeks. Well, they play Kansas City. Not a great week this week, Bob. For this next matchup. Jason, give me your hungry for more player.

I've got a combo pack here. I refuse to leave one of these two players out. First is the aforementioned CJ Stroud. Yeah. I'm just hungry for more. I want to watch more. He looks awesome. He looks fully legit. If you watch his quarterback finishes over the course of the season, week one, quarterback 22. Week two, quarterback 13. Then he cracks into the top 12 with a 12 finish. Then he cracks into the top 10. He was the quarterback 10 last week. I'm hungry for more to that. I want this Texans team to be good, despite the fact that it would be great for the Arizona Cardinals to have a great pick. I'm rooting for the Texans. They look like a fun team. CJ Stroud is so fun to watch. They're young. And I think the city deserves it. So I want to watch more. But the other player that has to go hand in hand with this, I am so hungry for more quality play from Justin Fields.

This is the exact, like I've tasted a little bit of it. Quarterback special. We just, we just, last week was like, oh, oh, that's delicious. I would like seconds. Now, I don't know that I'm going to get seconds because they don't play the Broncos this week. For nothing. Right. Right. I am, I am hungry. I am famished. This is when they give him the styrofoam container for his second hamburger and he gets over to the seat and he opens the styrofoam container up. Yeah. And there ain't nothing in there. My whistle is. is wet uh i would like it yeah i'm ready what whisper i'm ready for more i'm hungry for more and i please fields feed me 29 starts um i wouldn't say you've been well fed over that duration for fantasy you've certainly been well fed for watching him play quarterback well no no but last week i was yeah i mean well fed

I'm not talking about just... I'm saying for the duration of his career. Yeah, certainly. Well, I mean, we're considering his rookie year. I think you were eating well. Last season. For part of last season, yeah. I mean, last season, you ate so well. Do you think we're back? I do think fantasy-wise, he's going to be good this season. I am hungry for more fantasy. But really, I want him to level up as a quarterback. I do not believe that's going to happen. But you're hungry for more. But I am hungry. I'm going to bring up Michael Wilson again, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals, third round draft pick. The last two weeks, 86 and 76 yards. In fact, over the course of the last three weeks, it's on a 17-game pace of over 1,200 yards receiving in this cardinal offense, led by Joshua Dobbs, eventually being led by Kyler Murray. It's been a pleasant surprise, their ability to move the football. Last week was obviously a big week for Michael Wilson with the two touchdowns, finished at wide receiver six on the week.

But, you know, you like what you're seeing right now for Michael Wilson. We talked about him yesterday in the Waiver show. I'm excited about it. I'm hungry for more. I want to see them go to him in higher value situations. And I'm going to, since combo platters are on the menu today. I did not know this. I will throw in his teammate. I'm actually going to throw a hungry for more for Hollywood Brown right now. He has been a little bit better than I think people. maybe realized over the last three weeks? Hit me because I don't realize. Well, the target numbers, 10-7-10. He's been inside the top 20 at wide receiver the last two weeks. Okay. He has scored two out of those four weeks. He is the wide receiver 18 on the season. That is much better than everybody else. And so I think there's a little bit of, you know, cardinal blindness right now. Yeah. There we go.

Now, was that the old jersey? You guys couldn't update that? They didn't know that. They didn't know it was old. That jersey's been updated. No, okay. It's all right. It's all right. No, Michael Wilson, Hollywood Brown. I think that. Who can keep up with these guys changing their number like every year? Not our team. It's the worst thing to get on your case about ever. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Al. Are you all right today? Oh, I'm good. Catchman makes those. You got? Oh, yeah, what a loser. Under the bus. That's right. You've got the It's Football Time t-shirt on today. Yeah, I said when I sat down, I should have saved it for tomorrow. No, it's not football time, bro. Illegal shirt wearing 10 yards. Just wash it and wear it again tomorrow. Brooks, or don't wash it. Reping his Orioles. Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way, breaking news before we close the segment out. Don't you dare. Talk about baseball. I had a tear in my eye yesterday. Don't you dare. I had a tear in my eye because, and I'm going to tell the world.

I got a text from somebody. Don't you dare talk about a text from somebody that turned the game on. You shut your mouth. There wasn't a football game. You'd be quiet right now. I got a text from Jason. No. He was watching the game. Don't you ruin my brand. Don't you ruin my brand. Jason. This is a lie. He was rocketed. It's baseball time shirt. Oh, man. It's baseball time. You watched the game? He watched like an inning. I did the reverse Tyler Lockett yesterday for Andy. I turned the game on because I knew it was happening. I was like, hey, I want to see what's going on. We're down. Benedict Arnold. We're down three nothing. And then first play I see. Crack. Home run. Two run home run. Yeah, you need to turn that off. Next play. Crack. Home run. We're tied three to three. I'm like, I'm out.

Oh, oh, it was good for us. That's all I saw, yeah. I am now going to be paying him to watch the Diamondbacks. All right, that was hungry for more. Presented by Uber Eats with Uber Eats get anything delivered. Well, almost almost anything. Running backs? Nah. Flapjacks, baby backs? Oh, yeah. Order now on the app. Product availability may vary by region. See the app for detailed. Let's talk news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, the 21-day practice window has been opened for Jonathan Taylor and Cooper Cup. Get out your popcorn. Yes. Jonathan Taylor's situation, does he delete Zach Moss from existence? Does he press, you know, press this team for 20 and a half days and force them into more trade discussions? Do we see a trade that impacts? I mean, at this point in the season, Jonathan Taylor gets traded.

He's either staying and destroying Zach Moss or he's leaving and destroying insert name here. Yeah, we've talked about it, but he has to play six games to accrue a season. Whether he pushes the window for a while to try to force the issue and get a trade, we don't know. I will say that Shane Steichen came out and said he had a great conversation with him and that he's practicing Wednesday. So he's practicing with the Colts for the Colts, has had a great conversation with the head coach. It seems promising. that he is ready to go. Steichen said he was in good shape, but we'll see what happens when pads go on. I will say this about Jonathan Taylor. Coming into the season, he was more of a yellow alert, red alert with the injury, which we, that has already played out. Missed the first month was a bad pick. But he was a yellow alert when we thought he was going to be ready for week one.

simply because we didn't know if this offense was going to be any good, if this team was going to be any good, if the pace of play would be really bad, if the running backs would be involved at all in the passing game. And what we've seen is a very fast pace of play, a pretty competent Anthony Richardson. We've seen Moss involved in the passing game at least well enough to where, look, Zach Moss has looked good two games in his career. They were both this year. For the Colts, you put even the most ardent Zach Moss believer and truther would never say, oh, he's near the level of Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor is an outlier running back prospect. So if he's healthy and he's active for the Colts, I think there's the world where he dominates. I agree. They play Tennessee this week. Not a good matchup of running backs in general. Not sure if Taylor would be back out there this week. And whether the limit snaps as he returns.

Cooper Cup, another question mark there around limiting snaps. His window is open to practice with the team. This is a, you know, you're on full watch for Cooper Cup. If you took the draft capital and you invested, you haven't got a return. But that return could be coming soon. The team, you know, Matthew Stafford is playing well. When you look at it on paper, you say Cooper Cup, Pooka Nakua, Tutu Atwell, Tyler Higbee, Van Jefferson. Like, it's actually kind of an arsenal. It's all right. And Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua running routes and finding space. I don't, you know, Jason, what, you're a Puka manager. Puka Troopa. Puka Trutha. Oh, Puka Trutha. Yeah. Not great, but I still liked it. What are you doing? You're just continuing to play him. And I believe that when, you know, I saw enough flashes from two to.

uh this last week where i started to go hmm you know tutu's got his place he's got a different skill set than puka and you know there will be times where he might he might be keeping puka from complete domination the way that like robert woods was you know i think the the the wide receiver 17 the wide receiver 13 he had very good fantasy relevant seasons even next to uh cooper cup's dominant performances and puka's too good He's catching everything thrown his way. He's getting open. He's creating yards after contact. He's winning games and taking home the game ball after games. He's not going away. Selling it on eBay. So to me, Puka is someone that's going to be a wide receiver two rest of season after Cooper Cup comes back. Out of, you know, it's just kind of interesting. The target pace for Puka and Akua right now is 221 targets.

The target pace for Tutu Outwell right now is 143 targets. So both players are getting, like there might be room. I believe that right now, Puka's pace, if we want to talk about how good he's been, it is more targets, more receptions, more yards than what Cooper Cup did when he destroyed fantasy football a couple years ago. He is, yeah, 221 targets, 165 receptions. 2,029 yards. This doesn't have the touchdowns right now. Yeah, it would be 40. To me, it's thinking about this team running out 11 personnel. Like, it's going to be Cooper. Van Jefferson is, like, he's not great for fantasy football, but he is, he's the field stretcher. And then the choice for McVeigh is, do you put in puka for the majority of those snaps, or do you put in two, two? I can't imagine it's not puka. The snap counts for Van Jefferson are insane.

I don't know if you've seen him. What do we got? 93, 83, 83, 87. That's what I mean. So he's never not out there, cardioing it up. He's always there because it's a part of the play design. Like the defense has to account for Van Jefferson. I don't know that's true. I mean, they think they do. I'm not sure they should. They do by design, because if they don't, then it's just free touchdowns. So they, I mean, you've got to shut down the big explosive plays, and that's why. That's why Puka is eating so much. This is true. Pat Friermuth, big news this morning, expected to miss two to three weeks. Hamstring injury won't be out there this week. Yeah. Because the, you know, but the tied in position, it's so easy to find somebody, right? Of course. Zach Ertz, anybody? He's probably still on the waivers. Dan Campbell, noncommittal about whether Amundrae St. Brown will be available for Sunday's game against the Panthers. I do not like this. I do not like it. It's just, it's probably.

toe management. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how I, I've seen some people making a big deal about being worried about this, but I, having not known because it is unspecified, I've just assumed, is this not just a continuation of the toe issue he's been dealing with, been playing through, looking fine with? So as of right now, I'm, I'm unworthy. If it comes out on the next injury report that it's like a knee or something new, then I'll be worried, but right now I'm not. I don't care. Robert Sala came out and said, Breece Hall. Here we go. There will be no pitch count with him anymore. Here we go. Suggesting that Brees Hall will take on a larger workload moving forward. Finally. Daggummit. This is bad news. This is bad, bad news. For everyone against Brees Hall? For me, trading for Brees Hall, which is right now when I want to do it. I'm too late. You're too late. You're too late. Owls got him. And I really wanted to make some offers this morning and go hard after Brees and get him.

We could still talk because he's probably not going to be good. Okay? Just so you know, like he's been. Live on the show. Sending those offers. He's been pretty disappointing. I'm doing you a favor. Over the last three weeks. Yeah. Over the last three weeks he has averaged four fantasy points a game. Capitalized now, man. Yeah. I mean, what are you offering? You offering your second? How about puka? Ooh. Okay. Now that now we're talking. Yeah. Now we're talking. We are talking. But my team is. Wow. Running back. Deprived. That's the strategy. Bully people into taking your trades. Look, when you've got a chicken and a coward in front of hundreds of thousands of people, you know, unless he wants to man up. Right. Of course. Yeah.

I mean, I totally get it. Why would you want Brees Hall no longer on pitch count versus the Denver Broncos this week? Because you want a future superstar Hall of Famer in Bucca. It's still, look, Breece Hall being on a pitch count or not on a pitch count, it's not like the accumulation of fantasy points that running back have been impressive for the Jets. I, you know, getting Delvin Cook off the field a little bit more would be good. But. We know what the defense is going to do. The defense is going to put this team in a position to throw the football. Zach Wilson showed, I mean, I didn't get to, I wasn't here Monday for the discussion. Did you guys talk about Zach Wilson? Yes, we talked about that. Wilson had a good game and he outplayed Mahomes that week. I found myself rooting so hard for Zach Wilson to have success in that game. I mean, he did. Charity feels good. You know what I mean?

It feels good to have a heart for the, oh my gosh, the underserved and underloft. So it's like when you root for Zach Wilson, you're doing community service. We are getting Jason on full display today. I'm sorry, guys. I just, I guess I'm in a mood today. You are. You take the hat off and it's all coming out. Jets played Denver, then Philly, then the bye week. Yeah, so it's going to be great this week. It might be great this week. Yeah. It will. I know Jason. Jason would try to tell Al it's not. No, it'll be great for Zach Wilson. It's easy to throw on them. He's a good. Garrett Wilson. I've already seen your start of the week, Jason. Deshaun Watson's shoulder will heal in the short term. They do expect him to play after the buy week. Yeah. The report came out that he was medically cleared to play in week four, but didn't feel like he could go. So that's weird.

I've never heard of something like that ever where the medical staff says, yeah, you're good. And he's like, nah, I'm not. I think it's happened a few times. I mean, I think there's been a handful of times when you're kind of, he wasn't comfortable playing through the injury for whatever reason. We all suffered eye injuries watching his backup take the field. It was, it was weird. But what isn't with Deshaunson? Yeah. And we don't know how, I mean. Perhaps it was just, you know, at an extreme discomfort. But David Nijoku was like, if I can get a helmet on my burnt face, I'm going to play football. Right. So, I mean, in the lock. That is a contrast. In the locker room, I don't know how that went over. I can get a helmet on my burnt face. If you missed the report, Najoku had an, it was a pit fire accident. Yeah, like he had an accident with a fire. And.

The coaching staff said, I don't know if he can get a helmet on his injury. He showed up to the stadium with a mask. With like bandages over there. I mean, he looked like. He looked like me in the turkey costume from two weeks ago. He really did. But it was, it was crazy. He was not doing the tongue thing, though. They just weren't sure whether or not he'd be able to wear a helmet. He was able to get it on and played through it. It's really hard to give Watson the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Ultimately, maybe it was going into the buy. Maybe it was saying, hey, look, I go into the buy week. I'm not going to risk re-injuring this and hurting it for the remainder of the season. One more bit of news came out yesterday. It was weird. The Panthers looking to trade for a number one receiver, doubling down on the season. Yeah. This is a team that's own four. That's not weird to me at all. I don't think, I mean, this is a team that believes in their number one pick. I got a name for you. Marvin Mims. What's your name?