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Week 10 Matchups + Double Wheel of Shame, OBJ Fallout - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/12

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Week 10 Matchups + Double Wheel of Shame, OBJ Fallout - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/12

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and makes a decision. It's this play in the huddle is going to Jerry Judy. We're manufacturing a touch behind the line of scrimmage. We're manufacturing a touch on this play in this space. You know, they've said they're going to come out and do that consistently with Jerry Judy. And so with a team that runs the ball this much and has so much success and then design some of their game plan around Judy, you're looking at the scraps at times for Cortland Sutton. And so it does concern me moving forward.

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with Judy and with what the coaching staff has said. Jason, do you have any thoughts on that? Just a real quick stat to highlight it. In the three games where they both have been on the field, Cortland Sutton has totaled nine targets in three games. Jerry Judy had eight last week. The disparity has been massive. Yeah, I think that the truth is in between those scary stats. And it is mirroring what Andy said.

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The manufacturer touches, the touches that are sure are Jerry Judy. There are still other targets here. And the first part of your stat is really important there, Mike. How many games? Three. Three games. There's a three game sample here. And one of those games were they up 30 to nothing? Like, yeah. So they didn't need to throw the ball around. So I don't want to overreact to that. To me, I'm confident to play Jerry Judy.

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I'm happy to play Jerry Judy. With Fireball Jones and Cortland Sutton, I would prefer to bench them. I would prefer to take a wait and see. Are they like a same tier for you? Right now, they're very similar. If I had to start one or the other, I'd start Cortland Sutton for talent. But I'm not moving on from Cortland Sutton, but I want to take a wait and see approach, see when they're in a game, which I think they'll be in this week where they're not just...

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completely blowing out their opponent or, you know, there's a little bit more working in of both parties. But yeah, Jerry Judy is the one you could be confident. And in this game specifically, I always hate recommending Noah Fant. But the matchup is there. I was going to ask it. For fantasy, you know, when you've got... Fant a C. Oh, Fant a C. When you've got one of these teams that just is horrifically...

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horrifically bad at guarding the tight end. It happens almost every week. Out of curiosity, I wanted to look and see Tim Patrick versus Cortland Sutton. Patrick is catching 72% of his passes. Sutton is at 64%. Despite the fact, Patrick is an average yards per catch of 15, Sutton is 14.3. Wow. I just, I am bringing it up because I don't know if he liked the comment about talent. I don't know if he liked that. I think maybe Tim Patrick is Tim Patrick in your head and maybe he's

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You know, not fireball in your head. He doesn't have a cool name like Cortland's sudden. That's a cool name. It's unique. I think when you say fireball out loud, you're still saying Tim Patrick in your head. Yeah. You haven't embraced it. Well, no, I just know the truth. Jaylon Hertz. He's known his name's Tim Patrick. Jalen Hertz at quarterback. Jordan Howard. Are we starting Jordan Howard? This, yes. He's getting started against me in some leagues. Yes, I am willing to, like a fantastic question, Jordan Howard.

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or Antonio Gibson. Oh, golly. And I think it's Jordan Howard. Oh, Mike. I think it is. Mike, you need to see a priest. Call the exorcist. Jordan Howard had the highest percentage of snaps of any running back in week nine. The highest percentage of touch per snaps. Touch per snaps. Yeah, sorry. It saw a touch on 74% of his snaps. When he's on the field, he's getting the ball. And this is one of the big questions for this game is,

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The Eagles have had tremendous success the last two weeks running the ball. Granted, they played against the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers, two teams that you can run the ball on. So is that, will that elixir be intoxicating for the Philadelphia Eagles? And they think, well, this is who we are now. And we can run the ball. So, but I do think that Jordan Howard is.

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an okay play here, and yeah, I probably would start him over in Tonya Gibson, and that hurts me. Devante Smith last week, five for 116 and one. He still is not getting a ton of work. Are you starting him over any of the, are you starting him over Judy? Not over Judy, no. Okay. The other two, yeah, yeah. The Seahawks at three and five take on the seven and two Packers. The Packers are three-point home favorites. Drafking Sportsbook line has the game with a 49 point over under.

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And Russ is going to come back in this one, which is great news for D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. Metcalf managed to survive. He survived the absence of his quarterback. And we are in the dark on Chris Carson and Alex Collins right now in terms of who's going to play. So tempered expectations, even if Carson returns? Yeah, certainly. I don't think they're going to return and just give them 25 carries, but you're not going to be able to.

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play Alex Collins if Chris Carson is active. Whereas I do think if Chris Carson is active, I would start him. So it's really a matter of I'm starting whoever the starting running back is for the Seattle Seahawks. Hopefully you have them both. If you have one of them, I hope it's your guy. Aaron Rogers, Coach Matt LaFleur does say he's on track to start.

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Provided all of the health checks come in positive where, you know, he's got to check the heart and all the post-COVID stuff. But we're expecting him to be back, which means good things for Devante Adams. Aaron Jones. And his new running mate O'Dell Beckham, Joe. Oh. So close. Second place. Aaron Jones is in your lineup. A.J. Dillon still keeping an eye on him in terms of utilization. I mentioned he's getting like 10 touches a game.

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A little bit more than what Jamal was getting. A little bit less in the passing game than Jamal, I think. Gibson or Dylan? Gibson. Gibson. Yeah. So other decisions to be made in this one, I don't see them. Other decisions would be to go to the next game. I've made that decision. Does that mean you're playing Locket? That does mean I'm playing Lockett. I mean, I'm playing. I mean, I'm playing. That was more for Andy. Oh, good, good question.

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I take in silence as an accept. Sure. I mean, I never tell anybody when I do that, though. That's a private decision. Confidentiality. Oh, boy. Kansas City Chiefs at 5 and 4 take on the Las Vegas Raiders at 5 and 3. The Drafking Sportsbook line, Chiefs minus 2 and 1 half. The over under is 52 points. This one is really interesting.

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You know, the Raiders are at home. They're also ahead of them in the division. I think it'll be a competitive game here. You know, I don't expect the Chief's offense to break out of its funk this week. You don't expect the Chief's offense to break out of its funk? No, I do not. Wow. I do not expect them. These divisional games between these two teams.

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are always hyper competitive. The Raiders, I believe, won both of them last year? No, the road team won both last year. Oh, so they split them. They won 40 to 32, the Raiders did, and then the Chiefs won 35 to 31, just points Bonanza. And that is my hope. That is everyone's hope, right? It's just for an outstanding offensive outpouring here. The Raiders have a better defense than they did last year.

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So that might be the one thing that maybe gets in the way. They're eight against fantasy quarterbacks first against wide receivers. Right. That's something that might get in the way of the getting rid of the funk that the Kansas City Chiefs have been in. But, you know, it's just hard for me to, I guess I'm going to believe they get out of the funk every single week. Every single week I'm just going to believe in Patrick Mahomes, believe in Andy Reed. They're getting Clyde Edwards Aller back. I wanted to bring that up because Andy and I were talking about this on the footcast, Jay.

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that as little running backs are replaceable, the next man up can usually provide you just as much, not just as but close to the starter and the offense can usually keep going. The Kansas City Chiefs, like the huge drop-off with Patrick Mahomes and the passing offense, there is a complete overlapping of when Clyde Edwards,

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His last full game was week four. And that was the last time that we saw, you know, that was the end of the run where Mahomes started the season on fire. Clyde Edwards-A-Ler gets hurt. Edwards-A-Ler gets hurt. And then they enter into the funk. Is there a chance that Clyde is actually more important to this team than it feels like because he's not an important fantasy football player? I think it is.

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for the most part, a coincidence. I don't think he is the reason for the collapse. I think its defense is doing different things, but I believe that Clyde Edwards Aller is their clear-cut best runner. I think Darrell Williams is fine. He looks good on a player, too. But those two games that he, you know, his full two games before he went out to injury, he was over 100 rushing hours in both of those games. That matters to an offense. There's no doubt that Clyde's role is more secure now with the lack of success by Williams and Gore and McKinnon.

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than it was before. Yes. And so I would, I would start Clyde. I think he's going to play this week. Would you trade for him? Sure, absolutely. You're not trading high for Clyde, because if you trade for him today, there's not a guarantee he plays this week. The fantasy manager might just want something for him and think he's not going to get anything. So I would, I would trade for Clyde Edwards-Alair. The, uh,

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All this debate on whether the offense gets it going doesn't really affect whether you're playing Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelsey. They're always going to be in your lineup. So in some ways it doesn't matter. It's just be good. They're in there. And you better hope that this is one of those barn burners like they had last year. Derek Carr, he is streamable. Yes, he is. And Josh Jacobs looks healthy. Kenyon Drake. We'll see if it's four weeks in a row for Kenyon Drake.

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but the only really reliable pass catcher is going to be Darren Waller, and then you can take your shot in PPR on Hunter Renfro, who was banged up a little bit, but it looks like he'll be back in there. Freaking Brian Edwards, man. Yeah, he doesn't. Brian Edwards is not the style of player that Carr is targeting. That's for sure. That is for sure. Well, I'll just say, like, Darren Waller separates. Hunter Renfro separates. Like, Brian Edwards is a 50-50 ball player, and...

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I guess at this point of his career, Carr doesn't want to play that way. He wants to throw to the open wide receivers. Weird. I think Mike's right. I think that if Brian Edwards has some of those elite skills that exist in 50-50 balls, we're never going to see it with. I am. It's like Devante Parker. He was a complete and total bust until he got a quarterback who's like, oh, no, that's the type of player I'll throw at. Sure, but I'm mad at him. Oh, that's fair. That's fair. I got a goose.

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Yeah, I mean, there's, this is not all car. I mean, Brian Edwards is, but it's also Brian Edwards. Los Angeles, the Rams on Monday night football with O'Dell, Buckham Jr. at seven and two, take on the three and five and tumbling down the hill, San Francisco 49ers. The Draft King Sportsbook line, Rams minus three and a half. The overrunners 49. To me, that's a lot of respect given San Francisco at home in this one.

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with the Rams, I guess, you know, coming off the loss, having some bumbling games. Maybe that's why. But, I mean, are you surprised at that line, first of all? Yes. I am surprised at that line. Divisional game. Yeah, divisional game. And like you said, at home, the problem is they, I mean, when's the last time they won at home? It certainly wasn't this year. I mean, they've, they've been awful at home. Home is like,

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Not where the 49ers want to be. Not where their heart is. Not where their heart is. So let's start the Rams side. I mean, Stafford, you play him, Daryl Henderson, of course. Cooper Cup never leaves your lineup. But now do you start to have flex questions with Robert Woods? Not.

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Not this week. Even with Beckham getting some chances this week. Yeah, still not this week. Yeah. Again, I'm not going to change my Robert Woods or my Cooper Cup until my hand is forced because Van Jefferson's been out there for 90% of snaps. And I don't think they're, my, my big worry here is actually more towards Daryl Henderson. I worry that are they going to get too pass happy as a team? Think we can always pass. We've got these three guys. You know, your third corner can never be as good as our third wide receiver.

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And so every play becomes a pass and they abandon the run. I don't think that's going to have it, but that is my worry. But until, I mean, you're not abandoning Cooper Cup because of O'D Beckham. If you want to say. I did not suggest such things. No, no, no. I'm just saying to the listener, if they are questioning if things are going to collapse, they're not. Robert Woods is, you know, maybe a little bit more iffy because he hasn't been the target monster. Decisions to be made on the other side of the ball. Elijah Mitchell. Play him.

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