Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Post Hype Sleepers, AFC North Breakdown

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Coming to you from the Playdraft Studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, let's get down to business. What a day to be alive. Let's get down to business, fellas. Let's get a little divisional up in here. It's business time. Got him a business socks. Business, business, business. Welcome into the podcast, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike, the fantasy hitman, right.

Back again, bringing you fantasy goodness. And it is, well, it's Tuesday, fellas. You excited for the week? It's my favorite day that starts with twos. Okay. All right. It's going to be one of those weeks. All right. July 18, 2017, great show today. As Jason alluded to, we are getting divisional. We're going to start breaking down divisions for the next few shows. AFC North, NFC North, get you caught up on not only...

are predictions for the players in fantasy for those divisions, but also we'll break down the movers. Who's jump teams, who's changed, you know, which quarterback that we really think can make a big difference with new receivers, new offensive weapons. Let's go ahead and jump into the quick question real quick. This one comes in from Kev White. Is this Kevin White of the Chicago Bears? Probably not doing much. He's getting into fantasy these days just in case.

All right, who's your favorite post-hyped sleeper for this season? Sounds like he's fishing here. Hey, hey guys. My name's Kev White. Who's your... If you had to pick a wide receiver from... Who's hyped coming out of college. The North. Is he still considered post-hype? Isn't he just like post-post-post? Yeah, post-post. Sorry, Kevin. You're not... So a post-hype sleeper, as was explained to me, was a player that last year was built up, and this year, you're thinking bounces back?

Yes, they didn't perform to your expectations. The hype was a year early. Yes. Okay. So who's yours, Jason? Mine, I'm going back to one of my guys last year that I really liked, really liked his opportunity and his talent. It's Lamar Miller. Last year, everyone who drafted him was disappointed because he was a first round draft pick. He cost you a lot. And, you know, even though, so when he went out and, you know, up through.

week 15 in the NFL. He was actually the running back 12. But people who owned him weren't happy with him. He was consistent, but he never brought you those weak winning weeks, you know, where a running back just goes out, gets that two touchdown game, 120 yards on the ground. I remember before the season being more and more and more jealous of you having him in your dynasty roster and thinking he could be that guy. Well, and that's part of it. He's only 26 years old.

We look at it like, oh, maybe he got over there, can't handle the workload, he's broken down. They get Deonta Foreman, who obviously the news coming out, we'll talk about that in a minute, seemingly better for Lamar Miller. But the reason that I like Lamar Miller is right now he's almost a third round draft pick, depending on where you're at in the turn, he can fall to you in the third at the top of the third. That's his floor. This is a guy who's guaranteed 250 carries and 30 receptions.

If he sucks this year, he's going to pay about that value. He's going to return, you know, basically do what he did last year, which if he's your RB2 and you've got another great wide receiver on your roster already, I think you're going to be really happy with him. His upside is tremendous because it's funny. Everyone thinks DeAndre Hopkins is going to bounce back now that Brock Osweiler is gone, you know, that Deshaun Watson is going to come in and fix it. I don't see that.

But a running quarterback like Deshaun Watson can open things up much more for the running game. I mean, we saw that like with Robert Griffin III coming in, you know, that running quarterback. And all of a sudden, Alfred Morris was a beast in his rookie year. So Lamar Miller, to me, he's got a safe floor, a good price in drafts. And he still has upside. Can I just like copy paste that argument almost in its entirety? I mean, you basically made Todd Gurley's argument.

for me. Todd Gurley is my post-type sleeper, other than your discussion about Watson and the threat of the run from the quarterback position, basically guaranteed 250-plus carries, basically guaranteed 30 receptions, being moved around the formation for Todd Gurley. You have McVeigh that comes in, Sean McVeigh, who knows what Gurley can bring. We've talked about this before. The fact that Gurley was so extremely hyped really, really hurts him in his perception this year. Number 15 in PPR leagues, number 20 in standard leagues.

on probably the worst season you could have ever imagined or predicted for a player. Still played 16 games. Todd Gurley right now is a value to me. I think the upside is tremendous, much like Jason said about Lamar Miller, upside being tremendous. That's my post-type sleeper. I will complete the trifecta of running backs, except mine is not a yawner talking about floors over there. I'm talking about a man who can bust through the ceiling. Amir Abdullah, as long as his foot's not still busted.

Dave Burkett, the Detroit Free Press, he just came out saying he's setting his over-under on Amir's rushing yards at 8.50. You think, well, that's not that great, except he has added onto that his over-under for his receiving yards at 450 yards. You give me 1,200 yards from scrimmage. That's absolutely fantastic. The Lions did nothing. Nothing to address the running back position except announce over the offseason that Amir Abdullah is looking at a featured role.

Does it concern you, though? I mean, maybe we're going to, I'm going to hold off. We're talking, we're talking NFC North today. So we'll talk about Abdul in the running game. The change is made in Detroit and get into all of that. A reminder. Jason, you have a horn. Do you want to? Oh, I do. You brought a horn in. All right. Footclan assemble. All right, footclan vote.com. If you haven't voted for us for the 2017 podcast Awards, encourage you to head over there.

I have to share this story. I know we have a long show today. I don't really care. We have to share this story. Whoa, this must be a good story if God doesn't care. Midlife crisis here. All right. We got off the show last week. I think it was the Saturday show. Is this a back in my day story? No. And Jason had, we had done the Foot Clan Horn on the show. And I went back to the desk. And when we should have been getting some good hard work done on the UDK.

Jason is lost. He is obsessed now with locating and finding the horn of Gondor. It should be easy. It should be easy to find a fictional horn. Well, yeah, you can find anything from Lord of the Ring. If you want a replica anything, you can find it easily unless it is the horn of Gondor. Impossible doesn't exist. To the point where I've found one. Yeah, Jason finally found one. And it was incredible. Couldn't believe it.

Giant horn of Gondor, and it was made to be, like, put on a child's bike as a horn. And Jason's just $30. Oh, my gosh. There's only $30. Let's get. We have to get this for the show. It looks authentic. We're like, whatever. Go get it. Yeah. Yeah, he got pranked. Yeah. He ended up trying to buy something from, what, think geek? That was an April Fool's joke. And he was distraught. Very disappointed. But before we move on real quick, Jason, how does this...

make you feel about April fools. I love April fools. I'm happy to have been had. You looked like an idiot. I'm going to get into the news. I usually do. I'm going to get into the news before you do that. Just reminder, check us out on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Did we tell them why we're assembling? I got lost in the story. Yeah. Footclanvote.com. I said we were nominated for the 2017 podcast awards, Mike. Thank you. And by we, I mean the verified ones. Yeah. Sorry about that. Just you and I, Andy.

News and notes from around the league. I need to get Kleenex as a sponsor for Mike on that one. Yeah. Very depressing. All right. Big news. And I was just, these things bother me so much, guys. You know they do. All right. Ezekiel Elliott involved in a late night incident at a Dallas bar on Sunday. This source confirmed us to ESPN's Adam Schefter. This is a multiple report thing. Obviously something happened. And then Deont de Foreman.

reports that he had been arrested for marijuana possession and unlawful carrying of a weapon. Now, his attorney released a statement regarding the arrest saying he's disputing charges. But again, for both of these, they could both be mostly innocent of whatever's gone on. I'm not saying they can't. But you put yourself in a position as a player to either be accused of marijuana possession and an unlawful carrying of a weapon or being accused of punching out a guy in a Dallas nightclub bar. Or you don't.

Yeah, I'll be honest. I had no idea that there was a way you could have unlawful carrying of a weapon in Texas. I was completely unaware that that was, I thought you could just grab them. That is the attorney dispute. This is a completely lawful gun. Regardless, let's focus first on Ezekiel Elliott because that's the headline news this morning. And we had a report last week, Dak Prescott had came out and.

It was kind of odd. He criticized Ezekiel Elliott for being in the ESPN body issue, which tons of athletes have done. And Mike was like, Mike, you were upset with Dak Prescott. Yeah. Maybe you are. I've also criticized ESPN for not having me in the body issue, though. Right. They want to sell some copies. No, no, no, no. That is a wise move. I've sent them praise. Plus, you're not verified. All right. And Ezekiel Elliott, he shows up in that issue, and you're wondering why Dak Prescott criticizes him. And my theory then was, look.

Dak has shown a propensity, or I'm sorry, Zika has shown this, almost like Gronk without the long-term performance and proven, you know, situation where he's distracted. It looks like Zeke has been distracted this off-season. You had the weird incident with the woman on the boat. You've had different things that come up. To me, it was kind of behind the curtains. Why would Dak...

criticize Zeke for that. Maybe Zeke's not around enough. Maybe Zeke's not doing enough with the team. And so it's getting under the skin. And then you have this report breaking out. We already know domestic issue potentially could cause a game or two or more suspension. How did this hit you when you saw the news? It's really bad timing for Zeke. And he, the NFL, it was being reported that they're about to.

you know, rule on the domestic situation. It was also being reported that Zeke is going to release a statement, maybe trying to sway the NFL in one way or the other. But before he can do that, he's in this incident. Now, we're just reporting news here. Nothing has been filed against Ezekiel Elliott. He was not in a police report. But now there's talks of eyewitness situation. Whatever it is, it's just a...

It's really unfortunate. This weekend was just a crapper of bad news, of guys getting in trouble. And I mean, I'm with you, Andy. It sucks seeing all this stuff. But at the same time, it's like, what do these guys do as far as in the, you're a target? I have no idea what the life of an NFL player is like. You're a young man. You have.

basically unlimited assets you can go have fun however you want but you are a target for the public which so i'm not giving any answers here so i apologize if i'm just asking questions i just like it's everything everything in here is just sucks it's too broad sweeping and impossible to just say here's the answer to the problem right because the problem is it's far reaching i mean like you said these players they come up they have