Week 5 Waivers + Droppable Names, Hamstrung - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/6

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The Fantasy Footballers Podcast for Tuesday, October 6th. Welcome in 2020. Party people. Got a great show for you today. It's an important one. Heading into Week 5 Waiver Show. Some names to discuss, debate. You've got kind of two kinds of waiver pickups, the one-week rental, and then we can discuss whether some of these guys have long-term value for your fantasy roster. Hopefully both.

Yeah, that's the kind of player I'm willing to spend a little bit more on. We have our streaming quarterbacks for week five on the show today as well, so you can pick them up tomorrow. And some news to discuss, some injury news. And that's going to, I mean, I saw a Google Doc or a spreadsheet of the top 25 by average draft position yesterday. Oh, goodness. And I think Jake Seeley posted it on Twitter.

and he highlighted all the players that were either currently out or had been out for some period of time, and it was a battle to find who was healthy. It was not even a battle to find. It was just unbelievable how many injuries have taken place to affect or disrupt your team. I tweeted out, if you took the consensus, now, look, your order may have varied. I'm just saying the ADP, if you took the running back one, the running back two,

The wide receiver one, two, or three, so far you have a bad pick for your team. Like, that's how insane this has been. And what's so funny is I've seen people going back and forth of the zero RB people are like, I mean, look at what's happening. Evidence. You're like, of course you should have gone wide receiver heavy, except my zero RB team was Julio Jones and Devante Adams. That is not working out for me. And then the people are like, yeah, look, wide receivers suck.

I got Camara. Yeah. And like, no, it. If you don't have these three running backs. This year has, you could, you can make a narrative or an argument for any draft strategy this year through four weeks. It's why we say zero RB, WRQB or tight in. That's right. It's the only strategy that works. I mean, the reality is this is why the foot clan, those of you listening who stick with us through the year are going to win championships. It's because the majority of your league.

is dealing with insanity. And it's going to be who makes the good waiver wire pickups, who makes the right start, sit decisions, who grinds through the year and has a little bit more knowledge than the casual loser in your league. That's right. Take some injuries, mix in a little bit of COVID and schedule disruption. It's a recipe for you to win a championship. All right. Twitter at the FF ballers, the fantasy footballers.com for all the rankings and tools.

Join the Foot.com's the community. We had two Monday night football games last night. The Chiefs over the Patriots 26 to 10. And the Green Bay Packers with a very hand-handly won 30 to 16 victory. So the Chiefs game, it got off to a rather slow start. It seemed like it was halftime instantaneously. But you can't really hold the Chiefs down forever.

Patrick Mahomes ends up getting his and you just didn't get enough from Hoyer or Sted him in that game. Hoyer was awful. His pocket presence, 0.0, according to my statistical measures. I mean, he did not know people were around him in any moment. In time, you were, let me get your temperature on a player here. All right. Clyde Edwards Allaire, 16 for 64 last night, three for 27 through the air, taken off the field.

In the red zone, at times, he has been very dynamic, very good. Through four weeks, how do you feel? I asked you this last week, so how do you feel right now? I'll answer because I think Mike answered last week, and I'm a little bit cooler on him in the sense of the high upside, the gigantic games, whether we see them or not. But you're still thrilled in the sense that you've got a really solid weekly plugged in.

guaranteed floor for a player. And then he's going to get touchdowns through the year. That's one of the things that we know. And so in those games, if his floor is high, then you've got a really safe option until whenever he gets touchdown, he's going to be fine. But I will say this, the top five, the excitement for having, you know, what we see when we watch Dalvin Cook, what we see when we watch Alvin Kamara. These guys were...

They are truly electric. I haven't seen that from him, the player, as much. But I do think the role in that offense is just so safe and secure that I'm happy with it. I'm just not ecstatic. RB 13 on the year so far through four weeks, which obviously that's nothing to be ashamed of, but he was drafted inside the top five in some leagues. And more excited about Clyde Edwards de lair rest of the season over Jonathan Taylor, I assume. Yes, I am. Look.

RB 13 when you have one touchdown. But that's part of my question, right? Because if they pull them off the field in the red zone, touchdowns are going to be less frequent than if they left them there. Yes. It is better to be on the field in the red zone. But look, I still believe that the touchdowns are coming. You don't see a running back averaging over 20 opportunities a game and not scoring touchdowns, especially on the Kansas City Chiefs. Well.

I mean, Devin Singletary is an example of a player like that. I just want to be realistic with him. I'm not trying to poo-poo on him. I won him on my fantasy roster. But if he's being taken off the field, not getting in the end zone, his one touchdown was a long run, right? It was a 20-plus-yard run, which reminds me of Singletary. To me, watching the Kansas City games, it's just been the way that things have bounced. I mean, are you upset with Patrick Mahomes?

I mean, Patrick Mahomes, yet again, was not a top 12 quarterback. And I think that if you take the temperature on people, no, I'm just going to stay the course of Patrick Mahomes. That is fully where I am with Clyde Edwards O'Leary. If someone drafted Edwards O'Lear and they are disappointed in the running back 13, through a week four, I'll get him. I will absolutely trade for him. All right. What else stood out from that specific game? You got Damien Harris with 17 carries 100 yards, had a big 41-yard run in this one.

Rex Burk had 11 carries, James White, three carries, but back in the lineup with seven receptions, which led the team. Yeah, it was Sony Michelle was out. That wasn't something we had talked about prior. And so that means this really, Damon Harris is inheriting that role. He wasn't just out. He was put on the IR. That's right. So he will.

be out for the next two games at least. And then, you know, Darren, Damien Harris inherited that role. He was, he looked good. He was okay. I mean, Sony's looked as good. I mean, Sony's been okay this year. I, you know, are you excited? I think it's a little bit of fools gold. I think the Sony IR provides an opportunity, but we know around the goal line it'll be Cam Newton when Newton's back. And I, you're still trying to.

gamble with three different players. There are other running backs that I'm going to prioritize over Damien Harris. But that's also because last week I was saying you should stash Damien Harris. Yeah, no, you've been on it. And see what happened. You deserve credit for that too because I didn't expect the IR situation for some. I didn't expect that either. But that's also the Patriots. You got to expect the unexpected, man. You got to be ready. Yeah, which makes starting their running backs very difficult.

That's fair. That's why I say he's not the priority ad this week if you are, if you are hurting at the running back position, but he needs to be on your bench and see what happens. You know who doesn't impress me? Nikiel Harry. No. No, like, no body control, no 50-50 ball presence. I don't. I mean, he got the touchdown late in the game, which was basically a falling over touchdown. I don't know. I'm just not impressed with his ability, with the size and stature that he has.

To not be a difference maker on the outside is, is, uh, and there were some, I think I'm ready to cut bait. Yeah, there, there were a couple of passes that I thought, this is a good contested catch pass. You're giving your, your wide receiver an opportunity to make that catch if he's a good wide receiver. And it looked, uh, not close. Like he turned his body weirdly and got one hand on the ball.

You know, it was just, I was really disappointed by you were with me on that. I am 100% with you. I mean, 10 targets for Demir Bird in the offense. Nikiel Harry had six of them. I don't know. There's really not a lot that you want from the Patriots offense right now. I mean, Julian Edelman is someone that obviously is going to be rostered because he's been good for a long time. But he's disappointing. James White is a running back who catches the ball so he can be relevant. But until Cam.

gets back. And then once he comes back, it's just him that I want. I don't really invest right now in the Patriots office. And the update on Cam Newton, he has been symptom free for a couple days. I don't think he's ever had symptoms. Right. I'm just giving the up. I don't. They said I think I've heard asymptomatic. Not a doctor. But so it seems like once he, you know, once he clears and gets the double negative test, I'm just saying it like it didn't get in his.

lungs, it's not affecting him that way of putting him down for the count. So once he clears and is no longer able to transmit the virus, he would be right back in the lineup. Is that a possibility for next week? I don't believe so. I think you have to have 10 days of no symptom free, which would put the timeline one more week past. I was thinking about that and I had bad thoughts. I was like, man, if they...

They tried to, like, delay that game, get a little Tuesday night football, get Cam Newton back in there. If anyone would do it. That's why I thought it was like, Bill's like, oh, I'm not feeling good. They'd figure it out. Can we get the Tuesday night game, please? After what we saw on the field from Hoyer and Stiddle. Look, the fantasy footballers are prepared. You can go to Tuesdaynight Football.com. We're ready. Oh, come on. All right. Julio Jones. Oh, yeah. Calvin Ridley.

What? Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was a player that I was really excited about early in the week, and then you saw, oh, no, you might not want to play Matt Ryan if he doesn't have Julio, if he doesn't have Calvin Ridley. But he had them, Jason. But he didn't, apparently. It was the weirdest thing. So obviously, first half he has Julio. And it's still limited. They were monitoring him and not just letting him be out there all the time.

And he was okay. In that first half, I think Julio was fine. Julio tweaked something at the very end of the first half, did not come back in the game. That is very concerning. I want to talk about that more in a minute, but the weird thing to me was Calvin Ridley. Let me read you a list of players. And then you try to figure out what they have in common. Zekees, Hearst, Blake, Jones, Smith, Gage, Hill, Gurley, Keith Smith.

We've got two Smiths in here. Mm-hmm. I'm going to guess they all outperformed Calvin Ridley. Those are all players that had receptions for Matthew Ryan. Oh, man. It was really bizarre. Watching the game and how Ryan looked. It looked like he was legitimately playing without those players. Even when they were on the field, I couldn't wrap my head around it. And I don't know if that's a testament to the Green Bay Packers defense. And they just took out.

you know, their best options or if Matt Ryan was just rattled, I don't know how to feel about that. Yeah, he misses Julio, real Julio, not injured Julio. And so, yeah, we'll have to talk about the long-term situation for both of those players. Calvin Ridley has been the number one fantasy wide receiver. And this is a very extreme example of Jason's, you know, analysis where he's looking at the variance that even the great wide receivers have. Now, a goose is not something you expect from your...