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Fantasy Football Podcast for Week 7/8

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Fantasy Football Podcast for Week 7/8

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And Ryan Tannenhill is there? Really? I would absolutely think about it. Just that O-line play is such a difference between the two. Yeah. So maybe consistency is there. Another quarterback that had a good week was the former police officer. Oh, mustache. Kyle Orton had a 283 yard day, a couple touchdowns. Brought the bills back at the end. I watched a lot of that game. He looked okay. He's certainly more competent than...

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E.J. Manuel was in that role, but I still think even with the loss of, I think the loss of Fred Jackson and the loss of Spiller actually hurts Orton because a lot of those yardage comes out of the backfield in the form of passes to Jackson, big play screens, those type of things. So good week for Orden, but again, he's not in the category of, to me, fantasy relevance. Yeah, I put him still as a good bi-week option.

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Consider it when you look at his if his matchup is good, I would fire away. A pretty decent. He's had a great year, but he had a couple down games, so that's why we're bringing him back up. Chris Ivory, 21 carries for 170 yards with a touchdown. Yeah, he looked strong, and they looked committed to the run in that game. And if you notice, they almost won it. They did. And so when teams...

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do something and then they almost win yeah they tend to go back to the well so i and ivory now the one thing that was surprising me is ivory was having such a good night but at the end of the game chris johnson was still getting a lot of carries yeah and i didn't know what to make of that in the fantasy it's that's a difficult one because chris johnson has not really been getting carries lately right so and he looked okay like you could have started both guys and been okay

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Fantasy-wise. We had somebody in our league actually do that. Ivory is the much better play. What is he to you? Is he an RB2 going forward? To me, he's, I would keep him as a high level RB2. I like him that much. Okay. DMC, run DMC? He was on the list last week, but I'm bringing it back just because. Darren McFadden. We got to talk about this. So 14 for 48 and a touchdown against a really good Cardinals front seven. Exactly.

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the Raider Pass game did not exist. Right. Last week. So, I mean, he's doing this against a tough defense who can't throw the ball. And Maurice Jones, Drew, came in for a handful of carries and looked absolutely awful. So what do you think moving forward? Because what Sparano said, I'm going to run the ball. Yeah, he's a sneaky play now moving forward. I like what I saw from DMC against that defense, and I like the lack of MJD. So.

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I would say RB3 category. To me, it's a high running back three, maybe low running back two. But there's a value there now for him that didn't exist under the former. Right. And I still like Derek Carr despite the junk fest he put up. It's a good defense. He's still a rookie, so he's going to have those types of games. Oh.

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Denard Robinson. Shoe laces? Shoe lace. Shoe lace. 22 carries for 127 yards in a touchdown. In his opportunity now, the third running back in Jacksonville to get the kind of bell cow opportunity, which I'm surprised they gave him it. You might as well. Yeah, I think that's kind of. What are you going to do? And then they won, and they won big, and he ran well. But he's little. Hey, man, Chris Johnson's little.

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So he's somebody we'll talk about again in the waiver wire segment. Big game for Dinard Robinson. And then you had a couple of, I guess I would call these resurgent, resurgent wide receivers. Yes, I would agree with that. Do we have the welcome back button? Do we have that up? No, I don't have that over here, but sorry about that.

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Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. We don't need the button. There you go. But yeah, we can welcome back, at least for this week. Roddy White and Tori Smith. Roddy had his best game of the year. Yes. Nine receptions, 100 yards, touchdown, and Tori Smith had three for 81 and a touchdown. Any thoughts on those guys? Smith, that was the second good game. They seem to want to get him involved again. They do.

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I didn't, I, Tori Smith is, he is an enigma where he is ultimate boom bust where. Well, even in this game, his fantasy relevance was gone until I think it was a 39 yard over the shoulder, catch, touchdown for Smith at the end of the game. Really great catch. It wasn't the end. But it was towards the end of the game and otherwise he had not a very good game. But at this point he has.

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You have to think that he's moved up to a two. I think Tori Smith is a guy that you'd love to start on a bi-week. You'd be okay doing that. And Roddy, what do you think of Roddy? That offense is something very hard to watch right now. You know, Julio wasn't very involved this past week. Matt Ryan, I think has three straight weeks of one touchdown pass. He does.

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The offensive line lost another member to their... The center. Yeah. I can't think of his name right now. And so I am concerned, and I would not look for reliability from Roddy White, but I would still probably have him a tick above Tori Smith right now. Yeah, I have massive concern for the Falcons. Unless your name rhymes with...

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Shmuleo Shmones. I am not playing you if you're on the Falcons. Yeah, I mean, and even he is not proving to be matchup-proof the last couple games. You still have to play him, unfortunately, because he's so good. Dynamic, yeah, big play plus quantity. But, yeah, you've got to be worried. Nothing worked for Atlanta this week at all. They actually look, Dalton and Ryan look awful lot. I think the Falcons are done.

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I think they're done too. And the crazy thing is that division is so wide open that it's possible they're not, but. No, they're... So anybody else on the... We had a Clayman. Clayman. Oh, yeah, Charles. Finally. Yeah, last year's fantasy tied-in darling for some. So four for 48 with a touchdown. He's playing football still. He is. Nice. And I like the dolphins. I like Tannahill. Clay is...

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He's okay. I would just keep an eye on him. Let's see what he's doing. I'm not going to put him on my roster. But I got an eye on him. Not bad. Not bad. From the good to the bad. Poopped in his big boy pants. Ah. All right. Well, this is, yeah, this is the inverse of that last section. We're looking at guys that performed poorly this week. And do you need to cut bait? Do you need to drop them? Move them? Trade them. Freak out. What do you need to do?

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Because most of, just so you know, most fantasy owners freak out. Wait, what? No. Yeah, we like to freak out, and we like to do things like sell really low on guys and go after that, you know, monster game by, you know, Charles Clay getting a trade action this week or something. But, yeah, there's some guys that did not have good weeks that you need to be worrying about.

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Start us with some quarterbacks. Who do you got? Well, I'll tell you. People thought, and see. But people thought Jay Cutler was a reliable fantasy quarterback. I am guilty. Yeah. He has been. And he has been. He has been good. But you see what you've always seen with him this week, 190, one touchdown, one fumble, one interception, and a whole meltdown. I mean, just a meltdown of the offense on that team. He will not, he will not not.

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As in he will not not force the ball. He will force the ball all the time. And you don't, I mean, it's just frustrating when you have a guy like that. He's not reliable enough to me. So I think some Cutler owners might be panicking. The Not Not is actually part of why I like Jay Cutler. I don't like my quarterbacks to get scared. So you want the gunslinger?

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Yeah, I'd like maybe just a little more, a little more caution. But I don't want the guy who throws the pick and then freaks out. But Cutler's, Cutler, still a top 12 startable every week. He's been great every week. So I am not panicking on Cutler. I think this was, I think it's a blip. And it will be the outlier of a great season. Got a couple of poorly.

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poorly performing Bengals. There we go. A couple with zero points? Yeah. Andy Dalton had a, I don't know, like a peewee football game performance. Yeah, these are high school numbers. Yeah, 126 yards. That's it. 126 yards. Nice. And Gio Bernard was just not existent pretty much, seven for 17.

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Two catches for negative yards. Does this offense, do you have to ask yourself, are they going to perform at all without A.J. Green? Because Mohammed's the news on that list, too. There's three of them. I think you have to ask, that is a very fair question. This reminds me of, not this year, because they went out and they picked up Golden Tate. I'm talking about the Lions. But years past, when Calvin's out. When Calvin's out, that team is just. Goodbye, Matthew Stafford.

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Goodbye, running back play on that team. Because the whole offense relies on that one person. Yeah. And that's how valuable we have seen that AJ Green is to that team. Now, to be fair, the Colts are very good. I think, to me, what I'm seeing is they are a very good. They are a complete team. Fair? You're not. No, I'm nodding, and I'm just thinking about it because at the beginning of their year, their defense didn't look.

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The part, and so I'm coming around to them now. Yeah, I'm the same as you. It took me a while to come around. So maybe some of it has to do with that. I mean, I don't know what the game plan was. I don't know if, you know, the Bengals forgot to practice this week. I don't know if it was just if it was just Mohammed Sunu getting covered up, and so he didn't have anywhere else to go with the ball. But when you don't pick up a first down as an offense and Jermaine Gresham picks up your first down, you have to wonder what's going on. Indeed.

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is currently the number eight ranked defense. Fantasy-wise? No, just as an NFL defense. Yeah. No, they've, and they have no Robert Mathis. And so they've really, they've overperformed, I think, from what people saw in the beginning of the year and what they expected. But overall, I would say, you're not benching Geo Bernard. No, you're probably not starting any Dalton yet.

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and you're not going to anytime soon. And there's rumors that AJ Green is going to play this week. I don't think he is. Wow. I'm not buying it. You should have a little bit of fear on that offense until he comes back because they just did not look good. Who do we got? I've got a panic alarm to sound. I've got a guy that, man, Alfred Morris. He is dear to my heart too. Alfred Morris. This is his third consecutive week with

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Under 10 fantasy points. Foof. 18 for 54. What do we make of this? Man, it... Because you could go a lot of ways with it. You got quarterback problems. You got a new coach. Is it Alfred Morris or is it the team? I would prefer to put the blame on the team. Oh, this brings me to a good point. I need to issue a formal... Oh, you do have a formal apology. I have a formal apology. Colt McCoy.

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From the bottom of my heart, I'm very sorry. I mocked you. And I said there was no way that you would ever be playing. That Captain Kirk would get benched for you. I'm sorry, Colt McCoy. But Jay Gruden had something to say. And it was to squish all of the confidence that Kirk Cousins has left. He's got to be done after that. Yeah, he's done.

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But Alfred Morris, if you're an Alfred Morris owner right now, are you, I mean, what are you relying on? You relied on him as an RB1. You did. You are sending healing vibes through the airways to Robert Griffin III saying, please. I was going to say, because otherwise you're relying on Colt. Please, please, Robert. Come back. We're sorry for what we said about Kirk Cousins being.

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Taking your job. It's not happening. No, I would say it's a strong percentage chance that Colt or cousins will not take the job. What I want to see for the full meltdown in Washington to happen, I want to see RG3 to come back and play poorly and Colt McCoy to just take the job. It's Colt McCoy's team. That would be. Wouldn't that be funny? And perfect for Washington. For us, that would be great.

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