Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 9 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Over-succeeding

was predictable. I mean, we literally predicted that. I'm just saying a 7.9 touchdown percent. He's only thrown for more than 300 yards in three of the nine games that they've played. And the last four games, which he's had three touchdowns four to four, they've all been 268 yards or lower. And so, yes, Mike is right. Hyper-efficient. I think a willingness to throw the ball in the red zone plays into that.

The trust that they have in Carson Wins is decisiveness in the red zone. Could Jay Jai change that? Could that give them more of a... I don't think so, but look, I'm not going to doubt Carson Wins. I don't think it's worth that discussion. He's going to end up being, after this week, I believe the number one quarterback in fantasy. I think I'll pass Alex Smith this week in total points. And it's just been impressive. Tyrod Taylor, Jake Cutler, Dak Prescott.

And Russell Wilson all had big stud muffin weeks. Jay Cutler, do you read anything into that 34 for 42 performance? Got Carolina Tampa in the next two weeks in Carolina. Of course, Jay Cutler finally comes through the week after he's coming back from his busted up. Yeah, welcome to his whole career. Yeah, I'm not Carolina. No thank you, but Tampa Bay possibly. Alvin Camara, Corey Clement, Mount Forte, a monster week. His first two touchdowns of the year. Gurley was great.

Let's talk about Marshall and Lynch. Let's talk about Corey Clement. Clement was one of those players. He sticks out and we have our rising stars on the show today. And I was like, oh, maybe I should go with Corey Clement. I was like, no. Yeah. He's going to be my pump the brakes. Yeah, okay, good. He's, I think he's a great player. He succeeded, he over succeeded with the opportunities. Never heard that one before. He's given over succeeded? No. Yeah, that's the new thing. Okay. How would you phrase that?

Um, overperformed. Yeah. Okay. Nailed it. That's sure. That, that was like, oh, yeah, you try. Okay. That was like when you did the ping pong sound properly. Right. Whatever. Overperformed. Over succeeded. Tomato tomato. Corey Clement was, he was great, but it was, it J. J. Jai also over succeeded with his work. And he's going to take over the starting job. So I'm not reading into this as.

That's similar to our podcast. We've overs succeeded here. Certainly. And I will, the heels are already in, fellas. Yeah, no, this is not going anywhere. We are going to over succeed for the rest of this season. That is for sure. Oh, yeah. Mom's going to be proud. Marshawn Lynch, two touchdowns, and he actually ran well in this game. He was over four a carry, which for Marshawn this season has been a struggle. They won the game. I think this was kind of a resurgence because if,

Lynch's carries kept going down. You saw some success with the other guys, but he was the best running back on the team last night. Yeah, he certainly was, but I mean, it was a weird game for the Oakland Raiders. Their best wide receiver yesterday was not a wide receiver. It was Jared Cook on the tight end. I mean, who was bawled out, but it was a strange game. But Marshal on Lynch, hopefully this is convinced people now that you, Marshall, you can't drop him.

Right. No, that's a great point. And I know it's easy to say that after a big game, but coming into this, we're saying, you just, you can't drop people like Marshaun Lynch, who, even though they're underperforming right now, they're still giving you points. And those kinds of points and opportunities at the running back position are very hard to find. Yeah, same Anderson. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Rob Kelly, two touchdowns. He's in the same category where I, you know, he needed to be rostered. People sometimes question, that's who they want to run the ball.

In Washington. Just to be clear, that's who they want to run the ball. It's just a matter of getting him healthy. P. Ryan had another incident. A fumbling incident? Yeah. He was actually getting in because Rob Kelly was, he's still dealing with that ankle injury. The team talked about, okay, we're going to limit his Rob Kelly's reps against Seattle. It's a brutal match. P. Ryan actually got in the game, which if you look back through their other games when Rob Kelly and Chris Thompson are handling the work, P. Ryan doesn't see the field.

And then there was a fumbling incident during a handoff, and then it was Rob Kelly time. Again, they forced him back out. Adrian Peterson, also known as the new Cedric Benson, 37 carries, 159 yards. He actually lined up as a wide receiver on a play, caught a pass, two for eight, and targets. Did you know that that was Adrian Peterson's career high in carries?

That's insane. Give him more. I don't want Drew Stan throwing the ball in Arizona. Well, he's going to be Seattle. Yeah, not only Seattle next week, but I'm sorry, Adrian Peterson after 37 carries in a short week for Thursday night. No, no, no. I'm playing him on Thursday, no doubt. No chance. I will, I'm writing it down right now. AP pump breaks. He will have 30 plus carries in that game. I don't know if they'll.

have the opportunity. I don't know if they'll be able to. They'll want to. We'll have a, I mean, look, yes, it's Seattle, but it's the games in Arizona, and Adrian Peterson is the entirety of this offense. They're going to give him every single chance. And you saw, here's what you saw with Adrian Peterson in this 49er game. Yes, we expected success against the 49ers. He wasn't having success early. The first half of this game, he wasn't having a lot of success. He wore the defense down in the...

prototypical. And then he had 18-yard run, 25-yard run. Chunk, chunk, chunk. He had 78 yards at halftime rushing. So I think he was doing just fine in the first half. But the big runs all came in the second half. Because that's what Adrian Peterson does. Just will the Cardinals be able to go with that game script against the C-Huddles. Yeah. Damien Williams, Kenyon, Drake. Talk about him. Yeah, look, this is for better or worse, I think that

Part of it was the matchup. Okay, you're going up against Oakland who has not been a very good defense at all through the passing game or the rushing game. And so we don't want to overreact here. We don't want to say, okay, these two guys are weekly starters for sure. But I think this was a good move to get rid of Jay Ajai to open up the offense because they weren't using Jay Ajai in the passing game. The way that...

Adam Gase, and the way that Jay Cutler used to use with Matt Forte, they don't run him that way. Both backs now were used that way. Kenyon Drake had six receptions, and he wasn't the leader in receptions. That was Damien Williams with seven receptions out of the backfield. That's a whole different style of offense that worked for Jay Cutler. I mean, Damian was six, too. Yeah, he was six. He just had more, yeah, there were both six receptions. Damien Williams had.

More yardage and the touchdown. Yeah, I mean, it's the touchdown. Twelve receptions out of the back field. Yeah, that was a beast. That was a beast touchdown. I guess we'll be talking a little bit more about Damian Williams here in a minute. T.Y. Hilton went. Yeah. B. Nana's, by the way. It's great to see T. Yelton come back. Also, uh, playing the role of the possum. That was amazing. On that incredible touchdown where he does the jump cut, lay down. I don't know.

The defense passes him by, and then he gets up and runs the rest of it. Yeah, to have the actual awareness to be laying there and not hear the whistle. Because, I mean, you're down. As a football player, the defense around you, I feel like your instincts is to me, okay, let's regroup. Next play. But to actually get up and run. That's good on the federal for not blowing. Yeah, it was. Hey, guys, is there anywhere to go to have a chance to win a signed to you by Hilton, Jersey? That'd be really cool. It's good time to win it. Are you in the market, Brooks?

Yeah. I'll tell you what, you go to footclan giveaway.com. I'll give you one if you win. Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks, Chris. Thanks, Brooks. Doug Baldwin, look, he's apparently, according to this, he's got 77 receptions for 108 yards. Brooks, you come in here. It's a monster game. You get to hype up the Foot Clan giveaway, and we go immediately.

into a horrifying mistake. Unfortunately, only 1.4 yards per catch on those 77 receptions. So he has 108 yards and a touchdown. Look, Baldwin's one of my favorite second half players. Every year. Yeah, every year is true. But, I mean, we said this last week. Like, I'm just really excited for Baldwin. We said, don't overreact to Paul Richardson. At least that was my take, was don't overreact to Paul Richardson. And Richardson had a down week, but Baldwin's always involved. He always finds his...

If you play against Doug Baldwin, it's really annoying, which I've had to do multiple times this year. Because he's always open. I mean, he just gets open. I don't understand how he disappears in the secondary. Every time I see him on my opponent's team, I know that Doug Baldwin's going to go off. It just, it always happens. Yeah. DeAndre Hopkins put together a game. He did. He did. He did. He had a second touchdown.

multiple times at the end of that game. Tom Savage finally threw one, so he hung it on the wall, put that ball on the wall. It took, is this accurate? Are these target numbers correct? I'm going to vet these. Yeah, it is. It took 16 targets to get his six receptions. And to be honest, it's going to take that every single week because Tom Savage is horrific. He is as bad a quarterback as is in the league right now. I mean, he's immobile. He.

I mean, when I was watching the game, Andy, you were watching the game for the first 90% of the game. You felt like you lost DeAndre Hopkins. You're a Hopkins owner because Tom Savage can't get him the ball in a good enough way for him to catch the ball, make a play on the ball. Yes, he had a great touchdown reception. But I don't think you're going to want to bank on Hopkins getting a touchdown every week from Tom Savage who threw his first touchdown of his career.

Savage was, he threw 19 for 44, 43% completion percentage. Oh, man. And this was a good matchup against the Colts. Yeah. It's kind of a mixed bag of emotions with the Hopkins thing because, I mean, the fact he got to throw the ball that many times, the fact that Hopkins had 16 targets. I mean, I'd rather have him 16 targets, even if you only catch a 6th, then, you know, pulling those targets down and all of a sudden. Yeah.

He's not relevant, but Rams, Arizona, Baltimore. That's the next three match for Hopkins. Would you try to sell high on DeAndre Hopkins right now? Absolutely. I mean, if I had DeAndre Hopkins, I'm selling him. I'm so thrilled he caught that touchdown because now you can sell him. I mean, that's the way that I view. Andy, you have Hopkins. Do you, would you rather rely on him in your roster?

from here on out or try to trade him for a somewhat equal asset that has a better quarter? I would try to trade him. I mean, his playoff schedule, you got Jacksonville, Pittsburgh in it, mixed together with Savage, mixed together with these upcoming matchups. He may have afforded you the ability to sell him because of this game. Unfortunately, I agree with you. Al-Shon Jeffrey had a game. Julio Jones had a game and he should have had a better game. Oh, my goodness. Huli, no. Huli, no. I mean, that was unbelievable. You have to Google it.

Yeah, if you have not seen Hulu Jones touchdown bomb drop, oh man. You don't get more open than Hulu was. And Matt Ryan threw a ball that was a rainbow. I mean, this is the easiest type of ball to catch. Unless you've got, if you've got a defender near you, it's going to be very difficult because the defender is going to have an easy time catching the ball too. It's a lob. And he's wide open, no defender near him in the end zone and just.

drops it. And turns out that was the game. They lost this game by a point margin that they would have won the game if they had another touchdown. How about that else on Jeffrey? Oh, yeah. Sorry. I pumped the brakes and, wow. I feel bad about that one. Robert Woods, four for 70 and two touchdowns on five targets. Pump the brakes candidate or somebody you believe in?

You got to pump the brakes on that level of production. But like I said, with golf, long-term sustainability and because he has some very good matchups coming up. So Robert Woods is worth it. Evan Ingram had another good game, 4 for 70 and a touchdown on 10 targets for the Giants with Sturling Shepard back. However, I have a teeny weenzy bit of concern for Evan Engram. And it's connected to...

Eli Manning and his potential benching. If this team is going, if this team ends up going the way it's going, they may want to see Davis Webb to see what they have in Davis Webb. And if that happens, I'm not saying Ingram's going to be irrelevant, but you're going to have a little bit of a, just a variable there that I'm not excited about. That being said, you're just, you're locked and loaded. You're playing Evan Ingram. Jared Cook, Travis, Kelsey, Julius Thomas, all had good weeks.

What do you think of the Thomas game? Six for 84? I mean, it seemed like everybody in Miami had a nice week, except for they lost. I mean, didn't it seem that way? Cutler. Landry had a, you know, Landry, by the way. Landry was, wasn't the, he had the touchdown. He also just broke the record for the most receptions ever in your first four years. Congratulations. Parker was all right. Parker didn't kill you. I mean. Thomas, Williams, Drake. Yeah. No, maybe this is a.