Week 4 Studs & Duds + Panic Alarms, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4

Both will be interesting. When they can't run the football, both will be disappointing. You're not going to have a great floor because they're sharing the backfield. And what's upsetting is. And they both look good. Giovante Williams had a carry in this game. My pun is intended because he carried.

multiple defenders about 10 yards. He picked up a Pop Warner team and carried him 13 yards. I've literally never seen in the NFL. Like I've seen this in Pop Warner. I've seen this in high school football. I've never seen someone where a defender is literally holding their waist, holding their waist, and just then the running back is running with them like.

Like it's just a training sled. Like slow me down a little bit and I'm going to run through it. It's amazing. We've got these little numbers. It was the strongest man I've ever seen. It was awesome. We've got these little number cards at the table. And I'm starting to wonder, does the coaching staff use these to perfectly manage the workloads for Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams so that they have exactly the same amount of touches? It's a chalkboard. It's a chalkboard. And so they run off to, you have to write your own number on it. As you jog off the field, you put your little.

your little checkup and then you get back in line. I mean, it's really hard for me to say who I want more moving forward because you want to answer Javante, right? Yeah. Because untapped potential in the unseen. But I really think if they're both healthy, they're just going to do this all year. Yeah. I lean, I still lean Javante of it's a long season and Melvin Gordon is older. So it won't be surprising that if in a month,

that Melvin Gordon, you're like, oh, he's slowing down out there. He's taking too much punishment. Tony Pollard, 10 for 67. No targets. That's a, yeah, I mean, that's very disturbing him. Very, very disappointing. You're talking about, you know, 6.7 fantasy points, not someone that you wanted to have in your lineup. And he has a player that I think a lot of, a lot of fantasy managers are throwing them in their flex. And this is fine. Kareem Hunt is awesome. Kareem Hunt, back to back great weeks. You're going to get.

a game like this from Kareem Hunt where he scores 6.7 fantasy points because he is the backup for his team. Chuba Hubbard, disappointing if you were counting on him, 13 for 57, just two targets. Yeah, that part sucks, but also Darnal had two rushing touchdowns. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. What's your confidence level starting Chuba against Philadelphia? Philadelphia has given up, I think, two straight 100-yard games. It's still high. It's a flex option. 15 opportunities.

From the running back position, I'm very interested. All right, Devante Adams and Cooper Cup took a week off from carrying your fantasy team. Six for 64 for Adams, five for 64 for Cup. Who cares, 11 targets, 13 targets. These guys, it just wasn't their week, but you're not worried at all. You're not moving in a different direction. Stafford missed cup on multiple touchdowns. But you're right.

Now, this one's more interesting. Yeah, this one's scary. Because DeAndre Hopkins has seven, had seven targets, four for 467. Let me give you two narratives. You decide which one you agree with. Okay. Okay. Number one, Daner Hopkins is the same. Don't worry about it. He was injured for a game. Now he got Ramsey treatment for half of this game, had some targets with Ramsey on him, whatever. Option two. He's not the yardage leader for the Arizona Cardinals through four weeks.

All four wide receivers are heavily involved. AJ Green has 24 targets. Hopkins 25. AJ Green is 248 yards. Hopkins has 225. Kirk is involved, 18 targets. MVP level Kyler means distribution across everybody, including Chase Edmonds, including Max Williams. They're averaging 400 plus yards, 30 plus points a game, so there's a lot to go around. Everything will be fine.

But Kyler's probably going to distribute the ball, and he's got more options than he had last year. This one is very, very scary for sure, because what you've always known about DeAndre Hopkins, whether he's great or not great, he's one of those 150 target guys. You know what I mean? The targets are just so there. And through four. They're so there. And through four weeks, he's on a 17-game pace of 106 targets. If that comes to fruition,

he will be a devastating letdown. He'll still have his good games. There's nothing from this last game that looked wrong or bad. He might have been ribbled out there, but he didn't look it. There was nothing that I felt like Hopkins needed to do more of. It was just he wasn't getting the targets. And look, the Cardinals beat the best team in the NFL. And so you can't really argue with it. Can you say whooped, please? Yes, they whooped.

The second best team in the NFL. It was a shalacking. But here's the thing. Last year, were you happy with the Andre Hopkins? Yeah. The wide receiver five on the season? Yeah. He had seven games last year where he did not reach the top 36 at wide receiver. He was not consistent last season. Trade target? I mean, you've got to call your shot, but if it was me, he would be a trade target on a buy low.

I'm not paying up for Hopkins. I'm not seeing this as an opportunity to say, hey, usually you can't get a hold of this guy. So I'm going to pay out the nose and finally be able to acquire him. But I am going to kick the tires and see if I can maybe make a trade up for Hopkins and hope better days are ahead of them because we saw this in seven games last year.

Alan Robinson, three for 63, the wide receiver 49 on the week. You might need that button, man. I mean, that one. Yes. Through four weeks, he's the wide receiver 61. He has 13 for 149. He has scored once. If he hadn't scored that one time, he would have been as more relevant than Khalif Raymond. I mean, you're talking about a decline in targets? Yes.

And production. He's been the wide receiver 67, 45, 78, and 50. I mean, you have had bust game, bust game, bust game, bust game. Mooney was the wide receiver 13 this week. He was the first read. So, I mean, I would completely agree with you, Andy. If you have Alan Robinson, you are desperately hoping that Andy Dalton is back this next week. He is the only hope, I believe, for Alan Robinson.

or you're hoping that it's field so that it's an easy bench. You know what I mean? Because maybe you're worried Andy Dalton comes back and you're going to be tempted to play him and maybe you just shouldn't play Alan Robinson. Let me make life really hard on you guys. Perfect. More than I normally do. Odell Beckham, Jr., Alan Robinson, rest of the season. Odell Beckham. Alan. Okay. Was that a contractual obligation for you to opt out of Odell? It wasn't. I mean. Okay. Just making sure. Does Alan Robinson look bad to you on the field?

Do you look unspecial routes, anything? It's really, it's been hard to read it. I don't think so. No, I think he looks like the same Allen Robinson. That's my point. I'm still going to trust the man. I think this is a Bears offensive situation. Tyler Boy. Alan Robinson. I told you I make life hard on you. Mike's laughing out of pain. Oh, my gosh. I don't know how, I don't know how you take Alan Robinson over Tyler Boyd. Like.

There will be actual target volume and the target volume for the Bengals I project to go up as the season progresses. Yeah, you very well could be right. And obviously the last two weeks, Tyler Boyd has been much, much better. But that coincides with the last two weeks of not having T. Higgins. The first two weeks when T. Higgins was there, Tyler Boyd was Widercher, 74 and 41. I think that the passing volume will go up. As Burrow is healthy, I mean, coaches.

coaches usually fall into their old habits. And the Bengals have been very run heavy to start this season off. But in the past, they were under. Under Taylor, they were very passive. I was going to say with Mixon probably being out this week, they'll throw the ball more. This coming week, for sure, Tyler Boyd, who is the last name? Robert Woods. Oh, that's grody. Robert Woods scored.

I would take out. Do we have the garbage man drop anywhere? Because. Oh, the garbage man can. Man, those are. It was like seconds to go. Robert Woods shows up. Yeah. I feel like I would rather have Woods just taking the offense, right? Taking Stafford in hopes that if they're a team that could put up 30 points on the reg, then, oh, man. Sorry about that one. That one hurts. Are you worried about C.D. Liam.

Two for 13. Second disappointing week in a row. I was bringing up to Jason, the sophomore narrative is not holding true this year. So far. So far. Through four weeks. But there's a lot of names in that group. Talk to Justin Jefferson. It's funny to think of him as a sophomore. Because he broke out so much as a rookie. He doesn't even count as a sophomore. Jefferson has been really good but not spectacular. Production wise. But like C.D. Lamb, you know.

Judy got hurt. You know, I just, Lamb, I'm a little worried about. I'm not that worried about Lamb. I mean, we brought it up in this game, how much the Dallas Cowboys were running the ball on Carolina. And they didn't need much. They were in the lead. And you had the same thing happen to Philly the week before where the boys just went in there and. Isn't that the worry?

Is that the worry that it could go away from the passing game? Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe the hope that C.D. Lamb is involved in a team that has to try to score 50 every week. Maybe that is gone. But C.D. Lamb looks great. He had the first two weeks were great. And we bring this up all the time. All wide receivers are inconsistent. So yes, he had two down weeks in a row. But there's nothing you don't like from DAC.

There's nothing you don't like from C.D. Lamb on the field. There's nothing you don't believe about in the Cowboys offense. So, yeah, I'm just going to say these were two of his down weeks, and he would be a trade target for me. It's hard, though, because yes, all wide receivers are inconsistent, but you have to do something to read. Like, he's never had a consistent period of his career yet. So we haven't seen, we have a lot of ambition for C.D. Lamb coming into the season, but it's still narrative street until he does it. So, like, being.

I think it's just hard to appropriate a certain level to him until he proves it. Sure. The first two weeks were helpful to that in the sense that he looked pretty darn good those first two weeks. And that third week, if he is one yard further on a catch and he ends 67 and a score.

Changes how you feel about Cid Lamb. Yeah, I'm personally not worried about C. I'm not buying him, though, because you can't run on Tampa. So that first week, they threw the ball like 9 billion times. And since then, they've been able to run, and he's been kind of pushed aside. So I'm not trading for him. You would trade for him. Yeah. Tyler Lockett, 4-24, another disappointing week. Adam Thieling 3-4-46, disappointing. Godwin, just 3-55. We talked about that game. 55!

Brandon Ayuk was one for 15. Woof. Yeah. If you, you don't have to drop Brandon Ayuk. But you don't have to roster. But you don't have to keep them. I mean, it's just, it's all about your options, right? Like you still want to.

If you want to buy into the thought that maybe something changes with Trey Lance and some miracle happens, I don't mind benching him. I see four names here of disappointments, Cortland Sutton, Brandon Ayuk, O'Dell Beckham Jr. and Brandon Cooks. Iyuk would be the last of the list. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Marvin Jones, brighter days ahead with no DJ chart.

Juju was awful. You might have thought without Claypool that it could be better. It wasn't because Big Ben's there. Eight targets, man. Eight targets turned into two receptions and 11 yards. Yeah, but man, have you seen Deonté? Yeah. Deontes is unbelievable. He's a great wide receiver. I mean, he and his target share and his catch percentage. I mean, he is just automatic. If he's in the lineup, he's automatic. Rondale Moore, are you cutting him?

Uh, Ron Dale, for 28. Rondale, I think I would probably move, move on from. Put the Cardinals wideouts in order. Uh, Cardinals whiteouts in order. Hopkins, there you're green. Christian Kirk and Rondell Moore. That's the order. Robbie Anderson had 11 targets. There were some signs of life here. Five for 46. Disappointing result, but nice to see the targets. He's still obviously a part of the offense. I think Christian McCaffrey might play next week.