Week 4 Studs & Duds + Panic Alarms, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4

Some of those targets, at least. Yeah, well, he has every week. He has not gotten into the end zone. If he had gotten into the end zone one time in those four games, we'd be feeling different about him. But Patterson, six for 34 on the ground. He counts the running back. He plays like a wide receiver. And Mike Clay tweeted out, if Derek Henry didn't exist, Patterson would be the number one scoring fantasy running back by nine points. Whoa, brother. So he is locked into your lineup. You don't need to ask questions. You don't need to wonder. Wait for him to disappoint you.

Don't wait for him to perform on your bench again. That would be stupid. I would agree. I would say, and this is not, again, I've talked about, you know, trading high on some of these other guys. This is not saying you should trade and capitalize on Cordero Patterson and get rid of him because he's going to suck at all. But if you can trade the new hotness.

for a proven commodity I brought up last week, like trading Cooper Cup for Tyree Kill, and I had a lot of people say, I offered it and it was rejected, and I had a lot of people say, I did it, you better not let me down. If you could trade someone who is only for a stud, you know what I mean? Like, don't trade down from Cordero Patterson, but if you can turn him plus something into an Ezekiel Elliott or something that is more of a known commodity, I would personally do that. You should.

You should definitely do that. I mean, would you trade him for DeAndre Swift? I mean, DeAndre Swift just had an awful week. Like that is a, you go Cordero for DeAndre Swift. You can get deals done around that framework. I would do that. Jonathan Taylor? Yes, I would do that. Antonio Gibson? Yes. Okay. So these are targets that you could look at. And again, that's not to say you can't just play him, but proven commodity and somebody who's not scoring an average of 23 receiving touchdowns over three weeks?

Oh, Patterson. David Montgomery, he was very kind. He gave Jason start of the week 23 for 106 and 2 against Detroit. I mean, it was lining up as a great matchup. He performed, got hurt. Zeke is the RB4 on the year. All you panic-driven Zeke haters out there. I mean, he's been great. Vintage Zeke. And if you look, Dak didn't throw the ball a lot. Did you notice that? I mean, this was a competitive.

A game they were winning, he did not, he threw the ball 20-something times. I mean, this was, Ezekiel Elliott's averaging 6.4 yards per carry over the last two weeks. He's the guy. The beginning of the game, I was really surprised by McCarthy's game plan. It really looked like, you know, just they were running nonstop. And it was really not cowboys looking, you know, of late. You, you know, you're just so used to Dak having to.

throw it 50 times to play catch up. So, yeah, I think Zeke is obviously going to be a great option the rest of the way. I think that's part of what makes Dallas so dangerous is their offense can beat you both ways. And not many teams have that ability to say, okay, you're going to put a whole bunch of DBs on the field.

Fantastic. Our offensive line in Ezekiel Elliott will just smash the ball. Or if you want to stop Zeke, we have elite wide receivers here that, and then Dak can beat you through the air. I mean, if you look at what Tampa Bay's defensive front does against everybody now, right? No one runs. I mean, you cannot run on them. I believe Damian Harris was like four for negative two or something like that on the ground.

Dallas was able to turn that into just a passing affair. They almost won that game against the Epi Bay. But here's Zieg's yards per carry for the first four weeks. Three, and then in week two, he was 4.4. Week 3, he was 5.6. Week 4 against Carolina, he was 7.2. Oh, if these trends continue. And they unlocked Philadelphia, right? Like the running game unlocked them, and then they figured that out. He's been outstanding. So 10 yards per carry this week? That's what I heard. Here's a player to discuss. Super confusing.

Second straight week that Clyde hits the 100-yard mark. Yeah. He's 14 for 102, looked good again, also had a receiving touchdown on only three targets, two for 12. So the confusing part is there were multiple times in this game that Mike and I were staring at the screen going, did Clyde get hurt? Yeah, it was a lot of Daryliams came in for full drives, came in for goal line, came in all throughout the game. So let me. The snap counts, just to illustrate your point here.

On, you know, week one when he was disappointing, he had 72% of the snaps. Week two, when he was disappointing, he had 65% of snaps. These last two weeks, he's been much better. It went down to 62 and 52% of the snaps this last week, even though, again, back-to-back weeks with 100 yards rushing, 7.3 yards of carry, 5.9 the week before, looks good on the field, utilized the last.

scoring a touchdown each week. And I think that's the real, like, for fantasy purposes, you take those touchdowns away and you're going, okay, he didn't destroy my week. He was good on the ground, but you're not excited. So is this a trade high on the touchdowns? It's my question for both of you, because you had, he hasn't scored a rushing touchdown this year. He hasn't been a traditionally high scoring rushing guy. Darrell Williams came in and got the goal line. He managed.

a shame because Zeke, because Hyde went down on the one. Clyde did. Yes. Clyde went down on the one to set that up. So close to the touchdown. At this point in his career, he's scoring a rushing touchdown every 60 carries. It does seem like if you're a believer in Clyde, you can hang on. If you're not a believer, you maybe have, you've been given a window.

Maybe to deal him. Yeah, and I am a believer in Clyde, but I would still be willing to shop him. Again, trade up. Don't just try to get something for him. But yeah, if you could trade, Antonio Gibson, I think is, is fine. I would probably make that a similar tier. But I would agree. It's very, very similar. James Robinson. No, I would not go to James Robinson. Chase Edmins.

No, no, this isn't a one-off. This would remind me a lot of what we were talking about with Cordrell Patterson. Pair him with someone and try to trade up, try to get into a Dalvin Cook or Ezekiel Elliott. And, you know, now that you've got back-to-back weeks with 100-yard rushing and a touchdown, it looks good. This coming week against Buffalo is probably not going to be great for Clyde. Jonathan Taylor ends up 16 for 103 and 1. Naim Hines left the field a couple times due to injury.

finally got into the end zone. Mike started the week and then has Baltimore, Houston, San Francisco the next three weeks. Feeling okay about Jonathan Taylor moving forward? Yep. Najee Harris, 15 for 62 and 1, 7 target, 6 for 29. He's the RB6 on the season now. He did drop the 80% of snaps, but he's, like, to me, outside of like,

Derek Henry, who I would want more than anybody for a guaranteed touches. Like who else is more guaranteed every week than Najee Harris? For touches? Yeah, I mean, like that I just feel like. I would have said Mixing and it still is, but he was obviously gone on a lot of third downs. Yeah, I mean, Najee is right there. The team is putrid. The offense is awful. Big Ben is just, whoo.

Have we had a mid-season retire from a starting quarterback before? But Naji is, he's just, like the upside is not there as far as like just top three back. You know, you bring up Derek Henry just wrecking fools. But the floor is so high. He only lives on the second story. I think I would. Yes. He doesn't come downstairs. I like, I'd be targeting him.

Who would you rather have? Because we glossed over Saquan, who had a monster, monster performance. Sakewon by a lot. But Saquan looks completely back and healthy. Did it through the air, did it on the ground. We said it was going to take some time. And it did, and he's ready. Tyreek Hill, Debo, Samuel, DJ Moore. Hey, DJ Moore. What's that? How many touchdowns? A two for DJ Moore. That's right. Sam, this is why Sam Darnel's great. Because he.

He has a best friend, and his name is DJ Moore. And if you're watching the game, like, DJ Moore could have had two more touchdowns where Sam Darnold just missed him again on a deep pass where Moore would have housed it. And then, if I'm not mistaken, more went down on like the three or something like that. He reached for the pylon and was just barely out. So DJ Moore, the breakout is real.

I think DJ Moore is going to end up the wide receiver three at the end of the year. I do. I think Tyreek and Devante Adams will be above him. But I think DJ more will end up the wide receiver three. This is so fabulous. When a player finally gets the opportunity to be that the player like, we've all seen this three years. Can I bring up something absolutely ridiculous? Sure. Last year, our three wide receiver, my guys. Oh, yes. Were Debo?

I'm sorry, we're a Cooper Cup. I had Cooper Cup. Jason had Hollywood Brown, and you had DJ Moore. Yeah. And this year, those three players. It didn't work out that great, but we saw something. And this year, it was like, it's like the delayed reaction. Unbelievable season so far. And Debo, oh my gosh, 12 targets, 8 for 156 and 2, wide receiver 3 on the year. This is why I was the lone person that said I would not play Brandon Iuk last week is because of Kyle Shanahan and how he builds a game plan.

It didn't matter what quarterback was out there. Debo Samuel and George Kittle are going to be priorities in game plan building for Kyle Schneiderhan ahead of Brandon IUke rest of season unless they get hurt, which both of them, they love getting hurt. But thus far, they haven't. We didn't think we'd see George Kittle, but we did. He had 11 targets. Do you realize that? Oh, he barely missed a couple of big plays, too. Yeah. He looked great.

He didn't finish screened though. He looked better than he finished. He had a play where he got. I didn't get the screenshot on his face for the play, but he had a play where he got bent over and it looked like his knee was about to get destroyed. And his face said, I'm very afraid right now. He ended up running off the field for a play and he was okay. McLaren. Terry McLaren is great, elite. Six for one, 23, and two. Randall Cobb. Hello. Hey.

Six targets, five for 69 and two. He almost, I mean. If Will Disley had come through, Andy, he was in the running for the Millie again. Yeah, he got me up to 35th because Randall Cobb was, look, it was setting up that way. They like Randall Cobb. People were on Twitter, they were like, oh, is this time for, is it Lazard, the Lizard King time? I said, no, it's Randall Cobb time.

Aaron Rogers didn't sign until he asked Randall Cobb to come back. They made, who's ever forced to trade to get a wide receiver back on a team? Aaron Rogers. Yeah, and so this is not, he is going to be on the waiver show. Yeah, for sure. He belongs there. With MVS placed on the IR, and you know, he was getting targets. He was getting, he wasn't that great for fantasy, but if you watch, he was, he was very involved in the offense and now.

That job is going to Randall Cobb. Yeah, and NBFs was the bottom three in terms of catch percentage. So maybe we'll see a switch or at least a priority given to Randall Cobb who having a go-to guy. Hollywood Brown, four for 91 and one had a great long touchdown. He's the wider receiver 10. He caught it. Oh, not only did he catch it. He had to lay out to get that. That's what you need to do. Don't put it in his hands, but it just out of reach, make him go get it.

Van Jefferson had a nice game, six for 90 and a touchdown. He's very hard to recommend. He has a dart throw every week. Van Jefferson can be relevant every single week of the year, but he's still difficult to recommend because I went to that well in DFS for two straight weeks and nothing happened. And then this week I went away and he's great. Justin Jefferson, six for 84 and one. He is so good at football. Thank goodness for that first drive for the Minnesota Vikings. That game was...

He's just bigger than you. Moali Cox, two touchdowns. Yeah, baby. Two touchdowns for. He didn't jump. His vertical leap has got to be somewhere in the one inch range. Which means he can only reach 12 feet in the air. I mean, unbelievable. One of the targets that he did not come down with was another end zone target that he just barely met. I don't know how it was giant hands. Didn't catch the ball? It probably hit the bottom of the upright.

His hands probably hit the bottom of the upper. He, like, jammed a finger. Yeah, he jammed a finger. Dawson Knox, awesome Knox. Full brother. Mike's start of the week, right? Yeah. Eight targets, five for 37 and two. He's the tight-in five right now. Yeah, we're going to have to talk about him on the waiver show because.