He did not return. He suffered a calf injury. If you watched the press conference with Jimmy G, he got emotional about it. Yeah, I feel bad for the guy. He talked about the fact that he's just getting old, like these injuries, and he kept trying to play through it. He's going to miss some time probably two weeks, maybe more, maybe the rest of the year if Trey Lance takes a stranglehold of the position. Trey Lance's performance when he came into the game was up and down. Like you saw a lot of the play making ability.
Week 4 Studs & Duds + Panic Alarms, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4
Week 4 Studs & Duds + Panic Alarms, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/4
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165 passagesHe had an 80-yard touchdown pass to a player that was not being covered by anybody. Yeah, broken coverage. But some shaky passes throughout the rest of the game. Yeah, he looked like he was not ready to come into the game. His first few passes were horrifically bad. But we're a fantasy football show. And he scored, depending on your scoring format, but essentially 28 points.
in a half of football.
You mean, this is big time. Yeah, the headline and why he was, Mike's my guy, why he was talked up for fantasy the whole offseason is because he is one of those guys that could come out and rush for 800 plus yards on the course of a 17-game season. And those guys break fantasy because of the way the quarterback scored in a half because he didn't play the whole game. He had seven for 41 on the ground. That's what matters. You're not always going to have the broken coverage of a wide open debo.
But he can always run. Well, and he did have, I mean, he had a big play in preseason on a similar type of play. I would expect Jalen Hertz level production from Trey Lance when he starts. Agreed. He'll be in Arizona next week. That'll be a challenge. But he'll also have Kyle Shanahan in a week of prep. So, yeah, he's an auto start. Oh, yeah. So Brooks, I mean, we haven't seen the quarterbacks tonight, but currently the quarterback 12 on the week who played a half of football. Yeah. Yeah.
Logan Thomas exited with the hamstring strain. Mike, early in the game, you're like, where's Logan Thomas? That's all Ricky Seals Jones. Yeah, I had missed the note that he left, unfortunately, but yeah, so Ricky Seals Jones. I mean, they were going to him. Will Fuller, hand injury, exited early. What's new? Tony Jones, Jr. carted off the field with an ankle injury. Yeah. That's not good. Did you catch the Alvin Camara stat line? That's not good.
I did not, but I would like to hear. I believe it was his career high. I know the game went to overtime, but career high in attempts because he had 26 and a career low in targets with zero. That's not a lot. What are we doing? What are we doing, New Orleans? And to be clear, the New Orleans Saints lost the ball game. And also to be clear, to the Giants.
Throw Camara the ball. It does seem like that would be, that would work in everyone's advantage. The quarterback, the Alvin Camara. Very bizarre. Not to the Giants. Right. Right. That's okay. Okay. Did it was there like a gentleman's agreement before the game? Joe Judge went up to Pate's like, we want to, we want to have a fair game. Sterling Shepard's out. We got some guys out. Just don't throw to Camara. Deal. Unbelievable. A spit handshake.
Yeah, the Giants, the Giants, I was telling Mike yesterday when we were watching. I mean, Daniel Jones has been fine so far, and they're an okay team. I mean, they're just, they're not a pushover any week that you play them. Oh, which is a step forward. And Cadarius Tony had a very solid outing for his first, like, real full game action. He's got juice. If you watch the clips of him, he, his change of direction is.
pretty much like Tyree Kill. I don't think he's as fast as Hill. But it, again, going back to what we said last week of Tony's a good player. Like he has juice. He's really good. You see why he got drafted in the first round. It just, it didn't make sense for the Giants at the time. But now that everybody has hurt for New York, you have a real opportunity for Cadarious Tony to take over.
All right. That was today's news and notes brought to you by Sleeper, the leader, and breaking news alerts. Make sure you grab the Sleeper app, join the Breaking Alerts channel. And you'll get the latest news faster than everybody else. So off to the stud muffins we go. This week's fantasy stud muffins. You don't need us to tell you, but Patrick Mahomes is pretty good. Five touchdown passes. And, uh,
He's Patrick Mahomes. 278 yards, five touchdowns of Travis Kelsey has a bad game. Come on. Travesty Kelsey? Yes, Travis DeKelso. Yeah, I mean, he was outstanding. You had another receiving touchdown for Clyde. Mind you, it was one of those sweet underhand shovels. It was bowling. But, hey, that happens in Kansas City. Sam Darnel, through four weeks, has been a good fantasy player.
Yes, he has. And he keeps running in touchdowns. He had four total touchdowns in this game, 301 yards. He's the quarterback six. Yet another example of being free of the bill. Like, I mean, come on. And it was just like a fun little joke of everyone who escapes Adam Gase, they become a good player. For this turnaround through four games for Sam Donald, how was this not like, can we, this is peer. Number two. This is peer reviewed.
This is scientifically, scientifically accurate information now that Adam Gay's at least a stage two trial. He has to be the worst coach in the history of the NFL. That these players who are, I would, I believe his high school that he is coaching at is getting torched. So I would not just say NFL, but continue. It's just like Donald looks good. He's, I don't know, this, it's unbelievable the turnaround for Donald here. They did lose the first game.
to Dallas this week. So, uh, that, that game showed me, Trayvon Diggs. Oh, man. Tell me if you guys agree with this, but when I watched that game, um, I felt like both teams answered the question of whether they're real or whether they're, you know, because, uh,
It's hard to say, okay, the Cowboys, their defense has really gotten better and that they're a really good team. And then, of course, because Carolina was so bad, last year, it's hard to say, yeah, their defense is great. You know, they played not the toughest schedule. But these two teams really competed the whole way. And on a play-by-play level, they look like quality football teams. Dallas is one of the best teams in NFC for sure. I think they're going to be a threat. They have enough on their defense now to make plays. And really, that's like...
There aren't a lot of shutdown defenses in today's NFL. You need to have a turnover here, turn over there, a sack there. Impressed. Matt Ryan had his first good fantasy day. It was over 40 fantasy points in our league. Thank you, Cordero Patterson. And Jets next week. He looked better. Yeah. Like the eye test of Matt Ryan playing this game, you said, oh, okay, you're not horrifically bad. And the 25 for 42, I mean, you had.
I can't, you know, at least a handful of opportunities where he hit Calvin Ridley on what should have been a good deep completion. Ridley just unfortunately didn't come up with it. Jalen Hurts, Taylor Heineke, Dak Prescott, all big games for fantasy players. Jalen Hertz, man. He's the quarterback three on the season. His rushing baseline makes him safe. We've seen games where he doesn't throw a touchdown and he's fine. In this game, he had three touchdowns called back.
on penalties, which is, like, you know. 48 pass attempts. This team is. They don't like to run. Whether they're not, they're not a good team, but it doesn't matter for fantasy. He has enough. These tight ends and then Devonsa Smith. Yeah. He seems like they're, I don't, I don't see him stopping his production. Agreed. Anybody else is the quarterback position you guys want to mention? I mean.
Russell Wilson only passed for 149 yards against San Francisco. Yeah, the Pete Carroll offense is back. They let us have the fun for the first couple weeks. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow it down. There's too much production. Still had three touchdowns. Very James Winston. Well, no, it's very, it's very Russell Wilson. Like, he's a super efficient quarterback. His touchdown rate is is much higher than the average. His career touchdown percentage. But, you know, it's.
It's, you get, this is how we end up getting the ebbs and flows of where Tyler Lockett just disappears. Which is the last couple weeks, right? Yeah. Yeah, and then the last guy worth saying anything about Kyler.
He's on pace for 5,400 passing yards. Oh, and then he runs the ball and rushing touchdowns. Oh, it's just... I thought we were going to talk about Trailands some more. No, no. But before we talk about the running backs, I want to thank today's sponsors. I want to thank Tushy, the modern bidet company, washing away even the massiest of poops, leaving you with a better clean than toilet paper. I have used a bidet. Look, if you've listened to the show for any kind of time, you know, we are all bidet bros here. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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107 targets, 90 receptions, 1,258 yards, 23 touchdowns. That's a pretty good wide receiver. So, you know, you had a very big target vacuum when it came to Julio departing. And, oh, Russell Gage, Kyle Pitts. It's Cordale. Well, Kyle Pitts was getting.
