The TRUTH About Fantasy WRs in 2018, Part 2

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to the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, welcome back. It's another beautiful day. Thursday, January 17th. Or so that's what they would have you think. Wait.

Are you saying because we're recording this a little early? That's correct. Okay. I thought you were doing some Dr. Seuss over there. No. Dr. Seuss. It rhymed, Mike. Oh, more like Dr. Brown. I said Thursday, January 17th. Or so that is what they'd have you think. First, you record. Those rhyme? Yeah, they rhyme enough. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Not for Dr. Seuss. Brooks, can I get a really? For hip-hop?

Yes. Can I get a rule? Yes. It rhymes. If it was a song and I chose like really mispronounce one of those. Oh, you kidding me? For Dr. Seuss, you got a log and frog. It's got to be. I know you weren't really trying to do a Dr. Seuss, Mike. No. Welcome in. If you're still with us. We've got the second half of the wide receiver truth episode on the show today. If you missed it, Tuesday's show had the top 10.

finishers at the wide receiver position we broke down their consistency, their home road performances, how they played against top 16 defenses, how often they busted, some interesting stats on each and every one so you could get to the bottom of the top. You see what I'm saying? Oh, from the top to the bottom. But today we've got wide receivers 11 through as many as many as we need. I'm hoping we get to 72. I doubt it. All right. Somewhere between 11 and 72.

I'll take it. Check us out on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers, largest fantasy football channel over there. You can watch the show. You can see Mike humbly grinning. Hey! You can see Jason. Oh. So given the, uh... Yeah, the Bhole look. The Adam Gase press conference. You got to take the glasses off for that. Um, you gotta give that. Oh! Oh! You just have, you have to act like you need to go.

You need to go to the bathroom. Whoops. No, that's definitely the face. I just did. That's the gambled lost face. If you don't know what we're talking about, I'm sure we could tweet out a picture. I already did. I tweeted out a picture. Two days ago. That's true. We are recording a couple days early on this one with some schedule changes. We're going to be out of town at FSTA. We're going to be at the IHeart Radio podcast awards. And so.

We're recording this a couple days early. So if there's some big time news between now and Thursday, which is we're recording this late Monday, that's why we didn't talk about it yet. Yep. Quick question of the day, though. Who was your favorite player to watch in 2018? And you cannot answer Patrick. Pat Mahon. Oh, I'm sorry. I like those no-look passes. I know. But who's your favorite outside of Patrick Mahomes? And I'm going to go.

Grab Tyree Kill right now. Because it's Tyree Kill. Yeah, he's up there. He's my favorite player to watch. I didn't want to be just cheap and go with all Kansas City cheap. I don't know if that's cheap. I felt like if you can't go Pat Mahomes, that's half of the Tyreek Hill play. I'm going to Travis Kelso. Are you saying that I'm chiefing? Oh, yes. Yes, you are, but you totally redeemed yourself there. Tyreek is too fast. He's too good. And every one of his big time plays, they're just.

The replays on Tyree Kill are where it's at. You can't catch it in real time. But there's nobody faster. I'm going to go with a guy. We should get to him in today's list. Maybe. I don't know if we'll make it to 72 or not. But his routes are oh, so smooth. And the man is just a giant beast of a wide receiver. Oh, Kenny Gulliday is spectacular. Watching him go up, just give someone the body. Oh.

High point in that ball so smooth. I thought for sure you were going to say Baker Mayfield. Yeah, that would have been a better answer. I'm going to go with Baker Mayfield. All right, Jason, you got a pick? To be fair, I really like watching Kenny play at the wide receiver position, but no other player got me as hyped during the 2018 season as Baker Mayfield. If you check our, you check our group chat when Baker had his breakout game. A lot of capital letters.

Yeah, I mean, definitely, there's a little too recent he buys, but it was, I, Damien William. No, he's going to say CJ Anderson. The enjoyment I have received from watching CJ Anderson. It's unbelievable. Destroy has, has brought great smiles. But I actually think I'm going to go with, he hasn't played. So this is kind of like, the best smiles. The end of the season versus the beginning of the season. You put them together. I had a full season. But I really did love watching.

Carry on Johnson. When he was out there, the teammate of Kenny G. You're going to-toot-toots. No. Well, the thing is. Carry on and CJ. This is true. When you really tout a guy and then you watch and they're doing what you said, it brings extra enjoyment. So I guess so. Brings a great smile. That's why you enjoy watching Baker. It's not because you said, you know who I didn't love watching? Mitch Trubisky.

Mitchell Trebisky, who I lambasted right before his six touchdown breakout. I did not enjoy that performance. I was going to ask the inverse of the question. Who is your least favorite to watch in 2018? That could have a wide myriad of answers. But is there somebody that sticks out to you? I mean, is it somebody that you made a, is Jermaine Curse? Do I have to pick him? No. Yeah, you didn't have, you didn't get to watch. People he watched him play twice.

So who was your, I would say J. Ajai was my least favorite player to watch. Interesting. Because, uh, short lived. Short lived. No consistency. Nothing that you hoped would happen really. I mean, unpredictable. Any of, if you had any of the wide receivers in Philly, it wasn't fun. I mean, sorry, any of the running backs. It was not fun because you just never out there. Yeah, I was going to say you could throw all of them. Cory Clements. Josh Adams.

It was not fun watching them. I'm going to go to David Johnson. Because the amount of times I had to watch him just get the ball and go right up into the butt of the center for a yard. The Mike McCoy. I was so frustrated. I couldn't even watch the games. Get in there deep, David. I could not watch those games anymore. So I open up. David Johnson was.

terrible to watch. You did not want that Johnson up there. Oh, no, no. Think of the kids. You have to restart the show. That man has a family, Jason. Mike, do you have somebody that sticks out for you? Yeah, Gronk. He's frigging burnt. He has absolutely toasted. Grankowski. Dude, the playoff game last week. It's 35 to 7 and his first reception comes after halftime. I am, I was so happy.

to watch his usage in the playoff game. Because I'm telling you, I am firmly entrenched in, if Grunk does come back next year, which I think there's a good chance he doesn't, I will not draft Grunk because he's going to end. He'll still be a fourth, fifth round guy, just like Jimmy Graham was this year. Is he reminding you of Jimmy Graham now? Jimmy Graham, when I watch him, I'm like, ugh. I'm not drafting that guy. So you got me this year, Grunk. I really enjoyed Roto World's blurb.

on Grong from this last game where they said the corpse of Rob Grong-Gelke did not do much. All right, like I said, no news on the show today. We're going to get right into the wide receiver truth, but we do want to remind you, check out Sleeper. If you're looking for a new platformer right now, Dynasty League. You're going to form a brand new Dynasty League. Check out the Sleeper app. Let's go ahead and jump on it. You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. Like I said, the top 10.

On the Tuesday show, we're going to jump into the number 11 through however many we get to, up to 72. Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs was the number 11 finisher. He had a consistency rank of 14. And Mike, why don't you refresh our listeners on what we're talking about with consistency? Certainly. So the consistency where we have three tiers, we have a great game, which is more than 22 points.

And that on average would give you a top five performance on the week. A good game meant they scored more than 10 points. And that puts you in the top 24. So a starting wide receiver. And if you have fewer than seven points, generally you're on the outside of the top 50, aka you have busted and you have hurt someone's fantasy season or fantasy week. Stefan Diggs had 20% of his games classified as great. So in that threshold of 22 points.

or above 60% of them is good. So you're 80, I guess not 80% because greats are in good. And then 20% of games were bust games. So it was an up and down season for Stefan Diggs. He started the year, much like last season, where the world was kind of on fire. He looked like he was going to give you everything you expected. He finished the year with 102 for 1021 and 9 on 149 targets. He's had a nose for the end zone.

Four of his touchdowns came from inside the five-yard line. So how do we really feel about Stefan Diggs and what we saw this year? I mean, 20% of the time busting, it's not a good number. He's not one of those high, you know, upper tier. Yeah, it's not a great number when compared to the high tier guys. It actually is a good number when you look at the wide receiver position as a whole, you know, but the reality is the Minnesota passing attack.

Both Adam Thielen and Stefan Diggs got off to a better start in the beginning of the year. Thielen really fell away. If we talked about him on the last episode, I believe he was the wide receiver 27 over the back half of the year, while Stefan Diggs, over the second half of the year, was on a per game basis, the wide receiver 13. So he was a much more serviceable player. That's why I think come draft time.

Stefan Diggs will once again creep ahead of Adam Thielen as the wide receiver to own as not my opinion, but I think average draft position that will happen. So tell me why that's not your opinion, only because I asked that because you have a half of a season where you saw the disparity between them flip. So you got half a season with Thielen dominating, setting the world on fire, half a season where Diggs was better. And the second half where maybe Kurt Cousins was more settled in to...

what he was going to do. So why do you believe Thielen is the better pickup? Because it's not like Diggs was, you know, 102 receptions. That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot fewer than Adam Thielen. And look, we've had multiple years of this where it continues to happen. And one of the things that, you know, we talk about our notebook that we try to write down things to remember for the next season. And one of the things I really do want to remember for next year is to grab players who can get off to hot starts. And I think Adam Thielen.

I mean, Diggs has been, you know, one of those second half of the year players for a couple years in a row where you kind of are tantalized at the end. His first half was pretty strong. Yes. I mean, the Vikings passing attack to start the year was just fantastic. But I think, you know, we've got enough history where Adam Thielen is the one on that team. He's going to be the more targeted guy. If you're in a PPR, half PPR league.