Fantasy Football 2018 - NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers

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to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from draft.com studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, we're back, and we're better than ever. There are so many different things that could open this show. I don't even know really where to go to. Oh, goodness. I am barely conscious right now.

I just happen to be alive. We'll get to that later, Jason. Yeah, yeah. What do we start with? Well, the NFL draft has concluded. The world of rookie drafts, dynasty picks, regular rankings, 2018 projections is here. And this show is going to be jam-packed. We've got the AFC winners and losers from the draft. And we're talking fantasy football winners and losers. Who came out ahead?

Who's looking pretty? Who's looking fine? Speaking of those, you know, the rookie rankings, that's a part of our Ultimate Draft Kit. It is live. Even if you pre-order right now on Ultimate DraftKit.com, the whole kit comes out June 1st, but the rookie draft rankings are up. So that's exciting. And you get our individual and consensus rankings for the rookies. We've all been pouring over the teams and the picks. And...

Well, we've even had our own Dynasty League draft. It's begun, yes. Yeah, our main draft has, it's somewhere in the second round right now, but our first round is over. It's, it's at me right now. I'm refusing to pick out of spite. Well, that's fine. But honestly, we got to get to, we'll start with the big winner. And if you're on the YouTube, you may notice that my colors have changed because the long con, the long jinx! It worked out.

I had to show the Arizona Cardinals what would happen if they screwed things up, but they did not franchise quarterback drafted in the first round. And Josh Rosen gave up pennies on the dollar to move up and get him. Christian Kirk in the second round. Yeah, baby. Mike. Unbelievable draft for the Arizona Cardinals. And if you have not seen it on our socials, we posted the security footage of when the Arizona Cardinals trade was.

The trade-up was announced, and Jason's reaction of pure joy, I'm feeling it, he's feeling it. Andy is sad and crying about it still, but it doesn't matter. We are back. Mike has got his Arizona Cardinals jersey back on, and that makes me happy because I just couldn't imagine that you had a band in our team. But now I see that you are manipulating them into drafting a bad quarterback. Oh, stop.

Many people have slotted Josh Rosen as the best quarterback in the draft. I hope that I am wrong about him. I really do. I have lamented via Instagram and Twitter. I have shed my tears. I have to just laugh at the irony. You wrote a whole song. Yeah, I improvved a song. Oh. Yeah. I improvved a song about Josh Rose. Yeah, it just flowed naturally. And look, I really hope that I am.

wrong about Josh Rosen that he is a franchise quarterback and that he is pliable and humble and will learn and become great and that I was wrong and that Jason was right and that the Cardinals win a thousand Super Bowls and I hang posters of Josh Rosen in my bedroom. You're hoping you get to that point. That's where I want to be. The worry with him and all the attitude, you know, the headcase issues.

They remind me a lot of Deshaun Kaiser last year when he's like, I'm Tom Brady plus Cam Newton put together. And then it's like, oh, you kind of like that. Oh, it's brash. It's bold. And then you kind of hate that. You're like, you're an idiot. You're not those guys. Very reminiscent of what Josh Rosen has done in this process. So I will grant you that. That's not a good comp. But then I just remember, Sean Kaiser was inaccurate and made bad decisions.

So you're saying it didn't work out for Kaiser? I'm saying that on the field, Josh Rosen can back it up. Bravado. Bravado is great when you're right, and it's embarrassing when you aren't. And we won't know that until the season goes. I do think he's indicative of a new generation of player where the millennial generation is reaching the NFL with different.

thoughts towards authority and coaching and their own thoughts. And I'm not indicting it one way or another other than the fact that I worry about like his own college coaches had concerns about some of that stuff talking about, hey, when he's here, when he's present mentally, he's amazing. He's great. Between that and the concussions, I paused. But look, you can go back, rerun the tape from last week. I conceded that from a passing...

physical standpoint. He has the tools. And as a Cardinal fan, I hope I'm right. It was a very fun draft. Apparently Vegas doesn't really think he's got what it takes this year. I was curious if you guys wanted to jump in here. I've got the just released Westgate Las Vegas sports book, Win Lost Totals. Well, Sam Bradford's the quarterback this year. And I heard two games. It's all factored in. Until Sam Bradford.

Until San Bradford gets injured, $20 million says he will be the quarterback this year, which I think is fantastic for Rosen's development. I will throw you some names of teams, and I want to see if you guys can guess the win totals in Vegas, and then we'll get into the draft and the winners and losers. Cardinals. I'm going to go six and a half. I'll go five and a half. It's five and a half, the bottom of the league. Cardinals and Browns are both a five and a half. How about the...

Chargers. How about the Los Angeles Chargers? I'm going to go ten and a half. Oh, I was going to go, no. That's very high. Nine is right on the money. Take you over. Nine is right. I don't blame you. Yeah, ten and a half is a lot of wins in that division. They're going to be. That's a lot. They're going to be good. But that is the division lead for what it's worth. The Chargers at nine, the Chiefs at eight and a half, the Raiders at eight, and the Broncos at seven. League lead, not a surprise. Pat's.

Eleven wins, Patriots. How about the highest NFC team? The Eagles? Eagles. Yeah. Ten and a half. And then any other surprise that I can see? Got the Giants at six and a half wins. That seems like an interesting bet. I would take the over. I think I would, too. And I've got the Titans down at eight. Saints back up at nine and a half. Yeah. Where do they have the Colts?

At six and a half. Okay. So they have them without Andrew Luck. I think even with Andrew Luck, seven wins is your aiming. Yeah, it seems about right in the wheelhouse. They're not a great roster. Okay. Let's jump into the quick question. By the way, you can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. We're on YouTube. You can check out Mike's ever-changing colors. Ah, we did it. And the website's the fantasy footballers.com. You can join our community at join thefoot.com.

Year-round, independent fantasy football podcast, and very excited for this month. We're going to have some more mock drafts. We're going to have our initial season-long rankings for all the players. Our initial rankings are going up this month, being May. So we will... Wait, what? That would be May. It's not going to be May, so I don't have to hit nothing. Yes, you do. That's always been the joke. Come on. Come on. It's going to be May. Thank you.

I guess technically when we're recording this, it is the day before May. So it's still going to be May. All right. What's your biggest fantasy football surprise from the NFL draft? Mike. I'm going with the tumble and fumble and stumble of equanimious St. Brown falling in the draft down, down to the Green Bay Packers. Is this an issue where they couldn't properly write that name down on the card? So that's why he drops the far.

You know, when you're right, I do know that feeling. When you're typing out, you go, there, nope. There's no autocorrects. And then you just change your word. Eventually you have to give up. Eventually the name became pettis. Yeah, they just gave up. But it's, it's very unfortunate for a player that physically gifted, uh, tall, fast. It could be a good wide receiver. At least that's,

what all of the draft Nick community and us, that's what we were projecting. And if it weren't for the landing spot of EQ going to the Packers, that laid in the draft, we would be writing him off completely, not drafting him in three-round rookie drafts. But because he went with Aaron Rogers and the Green Bay Packers, he's still going to be worth that late flyer. But nothing early like...

He could have been if he went in the first three rounds. As in late Dynasty Flyer. Yes. Okay. Jason. For me, it was it was Darius Geis. I mean, the tumble there, I was really surprised. He was the sixth running back off the board. It was weird. I know when I looked at, you know, how I judged players. I really liked Carrion Johnson, loved Rashad Penny. And, you know, it was interesting to see the NFL teams kind of.

you know, see some of those things, but to have Geis go down as the sixth running back, I don't think anybody saw that happening. You thought he was locked and loaded as a first round, second running back off the board. That was like every, every single, not just in fantasy, not just fantasy circles, but if you look at, you know, the Mike Mayox and, you know, NFL and ESPN, just mock draft, total football only, not fantasy.

Geis was still the number two running back on almost nearly every board. Are you happy with his destination? Yeah, I mean. Extremely. It looked like he's going to tumble and land in a bad situation, but going to the Redskins, he fits what they want to do and what they do rather well. And I think he is still now worthy of a top five rookie pick. But I don't see him as the 102.

Darius guys goes to Washington. And the second round, like Jason said, one of the players he tripped on on his way backwards was Rashad Penny. Yes. My biggest fantasy football surprise from the draft, Rashad Penny became a first rounder on draft night to the Seattle Seahawks at the back of the first round. They actually apparently were tempted to take him at 18. They traded down, secured him at 27.

and Jason lost his mind. I think he found it to be validation. Him and Pete Carroll have very similar personalities. They love bubble gum. And Rashad Penny, that was a huge surprise to me. And it's not an indictment. When I say that, I think it was a bad pick. It's not an indictment on Penny. But I do think it was a bad pick for all the needs that Seattle has as a team. I'm shocked. I do think he'll be a three-down workhorse there. I think that's what they drafted him to be. Draft Capital is...

the bold print on the resume to me for these rookies. If you were handing in that fantasy football resume and you want to be drafted, that draft capital, and it goes versus Tony Michelle in the first round as well, it just speaks volumes to me about what these teams are willing and want to do with you. First round running backs, Rashad Penny. Big surprise to me, but it means a lot for fantasy. I mean, it was a surprise to everyone. I love Rashad Pinney. What did you say, Mike, on camera?