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the fantasy footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. I told you. I told you he wasn't going to do it. I thought for sure we'd get something. I told you there's no way he's doing it today. He knows that this is not. No. I thought about it. Carson Beck is not the day for it. I thought about it. It's Larry time. Oh, that would have been great.

I'm wearing his Hall of Fame hat. But then it kind of muddles the real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm with Mike. It is Larry time. Welcome into the show, Thursday, August 6th. Amazing show today. We have a new segment to debut. We got news. We got the Hall of Fame game tonight. We've got a mock draft episode. It's going to be awesome. Jason's got a fresh Larry Fitzgerald cap upon his head because he gets inducted. His Hall of Fame cap got it at the Pro Football Hall of Fame a couple weeks ago.

It's just for today. That's how into the Cardinals you are this year. It's just for today. Well, I can represent Larry. Representing the Cardinals feels disgusting. So this is not a Cardinals hat. This is a Hall of Fame Larry. I have a goal. Oh. We've had an O in like a winless team before. Detroit. We did it one time. Have we had in? I mean, the Cardinals have a chance at something special. They have a chance.

at 0 and 21 because they're in the Hall of Fame game. They get the bonus preseason game. Then they could lose three more preseason games. I see what you're saying. And then run the table in the lost column. They usually do pretty well in the preseason. Teams that suck try hard in the preseason while teams that are good are like, we're going to try some stuff. Yeah. We're going to work on things. I will say, yes, we have seen the video. The Cardinals video that is making the rounds. You can.

You can keep tagging us if you want. It doesn't hurt my feelings. We are getting tagged. We are getting tagged a lot. I have told you I don't care if this team succeeds or fails. Yeah. Yeah, there they are. The offense looks. We have seen really bad. If you haven't seen the video. Time for the Hall of Fame game, everybody. You need to see it because it's pretty amazing.

At least we get to see Carson Beck, and he gets to see so much of the field. Everything. Everything. He can see the field better than any human a lot. That's about his eyes. No. It's just. He's got good vision. Periphero. Yes. He was built to see a lot. You know, but the, I don't know if you all remember. We are out of control. Do you remember the movie Pitch Black and the monsters had a blind spot right in the middle? Yeah, that's, don't throw to the middle of the field. There might be. He might not be able to see it. Do you remember hit?

pitch black with Vin Diesel from 30 years ago. Bro. It spawned a trilogy, man. Respect Riddick. Pitch Black rules. Those were good movies. Thank you, Josh. If you haven't gotten down with pitch black in a while, you really should. It's so bad, it's good. We never tied a theoretic joke into that movie back in the day. Yeah, we made mistakes. Yeah. We have a big announcement. It could have been pitch black. Big announcement to start things off. You can mouth trumpet, Mike, if you want to.

This is the last time we're going to make this announcement, but we want to see you there. It has almost sold out the Megalus show in Phoenix, end of the month, August 28th, Friday at the Van Buren in Phoenix, Arizona. We have just released about 50 tickets that we had held back as comps and things like that. We just released them. So there are some prime seats available at Ballerslive.com. If you want to come to...

The live show, they are amazing. It's an opportunity to hang out with probably 800 other Foot Clan fantasy football fanatics. We've got a great show planned. It's going to be an awesome time. We've got some great things planned. It's about three weeks from today. So make your arrangements. Come on out. Come see us. There's still some tickets left now that we open them up.

Yes. Betsy will be there. The Borgolewin will be there. Should sell out pretty soon. Do not forget presented by our friends at Sirius XM, sponsored by GMC and PetSmart. Absolutely. We're so excited. There's going to be a bunch of crew there. And I don't know what the crew are planning. I don't know if they're trying to be Waldo incognito. I don't know if they're, well, Brian Ketren, the biggest loser will probably have a giant arrow pointing at himself.

Probably. To make sure that everyone knows who he is. And then, yeah, Julia will be there doing push-ups. If you want to do a push-up contest, find Julia. Yeah, yeah. She will crush you. Yeah, we'll take 10% of the take. She can keep the 90%. And no, it'll be great. So ballerslive.com, if you want to get in, there's a few tickets left. The time is now. Go grab them. We're looking forward to seeing you at the end of the month. All right, let's get it going.

Leader of the Pack, presented by PetSmart. All right, we are kicking off today's episode with Leader of the Pack. We are going to look at some situations at running back and wide receiver over the course of the next few weeks. This is useful stuff, people. There are competitions. There are situations that a different player could end up being named the leader of the pack, right? And that's going to matter when you're deciding between some options. And this is a great one to start off with.

We're going to look at the Packers wide receivers because I think you can make a compelling argument for all three guys to be the one you're interested in this year for one reason or another. And maybe, you know, obviously one of those arguments is going to be more compelling to you than another. Yeah. But, you know, this is a really weird wide receiver room. In the past, you know, we've had a rotation here.

No wide receiver on the roster surpassed 725 receiving yards last year. Dealt with injuries. Matthew Golden wasn't really a factor. Romeo Dobbs was part of this team. Dontavian Wicks was a part of this team. To start this year, it could be a very confusing, tough decision for fantasy players. So what are you thinking about the Christian Watson, 6th round pick, Jaden Reed, 10th round pick, Matthew Golden, 11th round pick? How are you breaking this down? Yeah, it's very interesting because if you get it right,

I think you're going to have great fantasy success. The way that I view it, the upside for each one of these, right? You've got Matthew Golden first round pick. Should be on the field in two wide receiver sets. However, early in this offseason, there was some reports that it was Christian Watson and Jaden Reed working in two wide receiver sets. Now, that's been the knock on Jaden Reed, is he's just a slot guy. And if you're, we want wide receivers to work in the slot, that is great for fantasy. But if you only work in the slot,

you pretty much aren't on the field enough to be very relevant. Now, I do think Jaden Reed might be the best wide receiver of the three personally. He is very, very good, but they like what he does. He's also been good for fantasy in the past. Rookie year who's the wide receiver 23. He followed that up with fewer snaps and yet was, you know, a decent wide receiver. I think wide receiver like he was top 25. And then last year was just gone, poof. So if he works into the field in two wide receiver sets, he's great.

The highest upside is Matthew Golden. But in my, I think the upside case of being a, so he's, the camp reports have been very glowing on Matthew Golden that he's finally showing what, you know, he's been making plays all over the place. He is a great athlete, obviously has the draft capital to where the team believes in him. But I'm saying all that to work to Christian Watson, which is who I am putting my chips on, who I think is the, it.

for fantasy football, for scoring fantasy points, the way they use him and the, the, you know, assurance that he will be on the field, barring injury, which is really his big problem. But if he is healthy on the field, which is the only thing we can work with, he's going to score the most fantasy points of these three. I don't believe in Matthew Golden. Yeah, I'm very in on Christian Watson. If you've been hanging with us for the entire offseason, he is ranked extremely high for me. I'm very bullish with the

With the other guys gone, the talk of fewer rotations at the wide receiver position. Yeah, I think these three guys are going to be out there a ton. The question comes down to, because I got Watson is on the top here. But like Reed and Golden, we had a brief moment in time. A tweet came out and said, here are the starting, this is the starting offense for the Green Bay Packers. Got down to wide receiver. There was two of them. It was Christian Watson and Jaden Reed.

And it was, what? Jaden Reed has been only used in three wide receiver sets by Coach LaFleur. So that was like this weird, interesting nugget. I think that kind of shook what was going on for fantasy football. But then just a few days later, you had the interview with Jordan Love. I think he was talking to Kay Adams.

and he's like, oh, Matthew Golden's the X. He's taken over for Romeo Dobbs. And it's like... And that makes the most logical sense. Yes, that was so... You kind of have to project that. You have data here. I mean, with the number of routes that Jaden Reed has run with two or fewer wide receivers on the field. He ran two of them in 2023, five of them in 2024 and one route in seven games last year. Like, they like him. They gave him an extension, 20 million guaranteed. But...

They like what he does. Why would they change what he does? He's a slot-wide receipt. You know, they have obviously the departure of the two other big names in the off-season. I mean, it's not too dissimilar than Josh Downs in Indianapolis, where most of the experience of that player has been in the slot, but they like the talent of the players, so they may give them more opportunities on the outside at times.

obviously if an injury happens, which look, Christian Watson has happened a lot. Sure. But if an injury happens to any of these guys, you get a lot of target consolidation that you haven't seen in Green Bay in recent years. It's tough. I mean, I think that I think this is a situation where we're saying who's the leader of the pack. In fantasy perspective, we all agree it's Christian Watson. However, I think all three players are good picks.

I think all three are good picks in fantasy. I don't see any consequence with shooting your shot on Jaden Reed in the 10th round. He's a player that I feel a little bit burnt on because for years I've said I believe in the talent of this guy. They don't give him enough opportunities. And then Matthew Golden in the 11th as a first round wide receiver who I know it was a rough start to the year, but against Chicago, four for 84 and a touchdown in the playoffs, I just don't see how any of them are bad pitch.

Yeah, I think that's pretty interesting. I agree. Read to me is the only one that I am starting to be out on. After that conversation where it was kind of confirmed that because the whole the whole concept for Reid to have success is that he is going to finally be using two wide receiver sets with Dobbs being gone. But when that conversation came out and said, yeah, Matthew Golden, the guy that they did draft to play the outside is replacing the X, then I don't think Jaden Reed can be.

good for fantasy if he's not on the field and two wide receiver sets. So to me, I think it goes Christian Watson. That's the leader of the pack. Leader of the pack is Christian Watson to me. But I would love to take some shots on Matthew Golden with the camp reports that he's great. Because I will say, if you were to say which one of these players next year, well, we just feel really foolish. Like, duh. The first round, the first round, the first round, the first round NFL draft pick that they had.

the guy in his way depart on a good offense in year two, if he ends up just being a really good player, next year we'll feel foolish. And it doesn't cost you anything in the 11th. Mike, how do you feel about this frame of thinking here? And yeah, I would put Matthew Golden in as the underdog that can have that relevant position. You've always loved Romeo Dobbs. Yes. I think we've all respected the talent of Dante Ben Wicks. He's had drop problems, but right now he's the two in Philly.