Fantasy Football 2018 - This-OR-That ADP Picks, Evolving Opinions

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To the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. Oh, there's freedom. There's freedom in this room right now. It's about time. I missed you, Jay. Well, apparently Mike is...

incapacitated. He is at home with a little bit of the throwups. A little bit of tummy trouble. A little bit of the pukes. That's what he gets, all those tattoos. Yeah. Wild and crazy kids. Welcome into the podcast. Thanks, Dad. Yeah, that's what Dad say. Long hair tattoos. Must be homeless. Must be. Yeah. All right, we have a show.

We're doing the show regardless of Mike's presence. Probably a much better show. Probably. I mean, just, you know. The grizzly may have to carry the show. I think he's got it. Welcome in. Hopefully you had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. It is Tuesday, May 29th. Today we have a great quick question. We have a game. We're going to play a little game. A game of this or that? Yeah, and we're going to answer some questions. So we'll get you ready.

We'll get you right for 2018. I'm excited the ultimate draft gets coming out just Friday. Moments away. We are days away from being able to sit wherever you want and just pour through the endless content in the ultimate draft. People are already on the page just refreshing. That's what I understand. Yeah, just clicking the button. All right, quick question of the day. Who have you been changing your opinion on lately? I mean, the offseason it progresses.

And things change. We are water. We are not stone, right? We try to stay up to date with what's going on. And morph our opinions, you know, you don't want to be locked into something that you believe early in the off season. And then all the information points you a different direction. And then because of stubbornness, you just stay there. So who's your opinion changing on Jason? Yeah, I love this question because I think that it's such a bad approach to, as an analyst, you know, pick the guys you like or you don't like and just hold firm.

ironically, after saying that this is a guy who I have changed back to my original opinion. Oh, it's an Amari Cooper situation. Yes, it is. It's one of those back and forth, you know, flippy floppy. I got my flippie floppies on it right now. Okay. So what's the flip? What's the flop? It's Royce Freeman. So Royce Freeman has really truly been one of those ping pong players for me. Pre-draft, didn't like him. Didn't really love the tape. After the draft,

I thought he went to the one of the best situations. I assumed that they were going to, by the time that week one rolls around, plug him in as the C.J. Anderson role. He would be the absolute starter, Devante Booker's both not good enough nor deserving enough, I think, to really encroach on those numbers. And as...

Time went on. I kind of cooled on my original stats, and recently I've been watching more film, spent some time even this last weekend on my anniversary weekend, watching some Royce Freeman film. And I do believe he will get that role. I think their offensive line is better. And one of the most, there's a lot of stats everywhere with fantasy football. Some are far more telling than others.

as far as predictability. And one of my favorite things to look at for rookie running back success is weight-adjusted speed. And I think Freeman has a good enough score. I think he's somewhere above the 85th percentile in that. I think he'll get the role. I have him right now locked in as an RB2, and he's going late in draft. So I like Royce Freeman as of right now.

Rookie running back for the Denver Broncos. Yeah, the Broncos are one of those teams this offseason that I think there are a lot of question marks about. You know, you have certain offenses that you kind of know what's going to happen. There are split opinions about Case Keenum, what he is, what he brings to Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas, whether...

Case Keenham himself is going to be a sleeper in the fantasy world. And then there's question marks around Devante Booker and Royce Freeman. I do believe we'll have that role as well. It's interesting that your opinion is changing. Mine, see, Mike's not here. So maybe this is the right time to say. Karim Hunt is the answer for me. And I want to explain this because... No one tell Mike. Yeah, I don't tell Mike that I like Cream Hunt a little bit more today than I did yesterday. But no, I...

I have just been following and reaching out to some of the beat riders in Kansas City and trying to get a real gauge on the mysterious situation behind Spencer Ware's injury. And a lot of my argument for why I believe Cream Hunt doesn't belong in the upper echelon of fantasy running backs like in Alvin Camara has been based on the historical success of Spencer Ware, the fact that last season the Chiefs went into the season hoping to split that backfield up.

Spencer Ware has been great. He's only 26 years old, but he's still not out there at OTAs. And the injury that he suffered is somewhat unique. If you watch press conferences, he's very, it's kind of his personality anyway, but he's just kind of subdued about getting back on the field, about the running back room, and then you start putting the pieces together in Kansas City where they went out and they brought in the Williams brothers, Kerwin Williams, not really the brothers, but the...

The pair of Williams, Damien Williams and Curran Williams. And, you know, you look at Curran Williams. He signed so early in the offseason, you're like, well, you had a chance to show a little bit of something in Arizona last year. Why did he go to Kansas City? I just think that there is a little bit more doubt in my mind about Spencerware's health. And if Spencerware is not available or not the same.

Then it is very firmly Karim Hunt's backfield. It is much more in that 65-45 split. Yes, they'll use other backs. You see a healthy Spencer wearer as greater sign than the Williams brothers. Yes. Gotcha. And I think he, just from what he's established in the past and how Andy Reid thinks of him, I think he would have had a great opportunity, would have a great opportunity if he's healthy. And he can still be healthy. But there has been some doubt put in my mind about his health.

and whether he can, you know, return to form and how much work they're going to give him. So I adjust to Kareem Hunt a little bit in my rankings. He's still not in the top, you know, the top five range, but he's in that five to ten range.

And I think we'll all, as fantasy owners, need to watch the progression of Spencer Ware as we determine what Kareem Hunt's future is going to be from a workload perspective in Kansas City. So. Kareem Hunt's very interesting. I think very polarizing to a lot of people. They're either they really assume that he's going to be the bust this year or they're like, what are you doing not putting him in the top 10? Yeah, I mean, this is the, this is what we've got him 12 right now. Yeah, I think I'm at 10. So I think what's crazy, and we all know this.

is if you stray away from a consensus opinion on a player in the offseason, then people are flabbergasted. People are surprised they don't understand the logic. And yet every single season, you have a handful of players that are clearly not going to be what they were the year before. You don't just reprint the same statistical outlooks. I don't know. I think this year might...

This year might be the year. Oh, everybody's just exactly the same as last. I've been waiting for it. That's why I keep Eddie Lacey on my team. Oh, he's going to be. Because I know that season's coming again. Yeah. All right. You can find us on YouTube. Make sure you subscribe, watch over there. You can see Jay Gris hanging out in the studio. Follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers. The website's the fantasy footballers.com.

Should I ask why you're grinning so much, Jason? Is there a reason? There is. Do I have something on my face? We always encourage people to go to YouTube. We never know when we meet a fan. Do you watch or do you listen? Sure. And, you know, the people that do both, they say, oh, man, I'm so happy that I started watching on YouTube. But it was ironic because we just added this great new.

camera angle to our studio, kind of a very, you get to see a little bit more, a little bit more behind the scenes. Brooks is holding a camera and walking slowly. Still believe it. I mean, it's clear that's what, that's what's happening. He wears a helmet on his head. He wears a helmet. Yeah, a camera helmet. Oh, okay. But it's how they, it was the pros do it laugh because when you said, go go to YouTube and look at Jay Gris. Yeah. At that moment, we had the new angle that showed Jay Gris as basically a profile cardboard cut out. No, how, what?

I apologize today. Can a cardboard cutout make that sound? Over and over, and no other sounds but that. It's an optical illusion. You know how they say the camera adds 10 pounds? For him, it subtracts about 400 pounds. Did we give out Jay Grizz's Twitter handle? No, we didn't give it out. You don't even remember it. It's Jay Grizz FFL. Brooks is nodding. Brooks? Yeah. That's what you think of him. You've now called him cardboard, which is an insult to Grizzlies everywhere. Ridiculous.

I promoted his Twitter. It is, I was correct. Jay Gris, FFL. Okay, thank you. OneZ. Yeah, that's important. Footclan giveaway.com. We're giving away a signed Levy on Bel jersey and a signed Alvin Camara football. That giveaway ends very soon. So go get in on that. It's free to enter and we give you free stuff. It's fun. And don't forget to check out BallersLive.com. We've got the show coming up a live fantasy for the people tour presented by draft. Our show going to Minneapolis, Dallas, Philadelphia, New York.

and Phoenix. So you can get your tickets there before they're sold out, ballerslive.com. Not a lot of news to get into. In fact, none. So we're going to go right into the game. Let's play a game. That is Mike's favorite drop. And he's not here. It's ridiculous. It's very funny. So we are going to take a look at some players that have a similar ADP. That's average draft position. And we're going to play this or that. It's very simple.

You choose one of them. Who would you go with? Why would you go with them? And the truth is, a lot of times. Comparable players. Comparable players at a comparable spot in ADP. So for some of these players, you are going to have to pick one. You're not going to get both because they're going to be going to be going in the exact same round. So you're going to have to choose. I think that would be fair. You're never going to get. It's rare if you ever get both of these. There is, yeah, there's probably two of these in the list that I think you might be able to get both of. But yes, for the most part, you're not getting both.