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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Trade/Cut + #FootClan Mailbag

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Trade/Cut + #FootClan Mailbag

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With Kevin White, John Fox is held back telling anybody what's going on. Kind of like last year with Kevin White. Right. And so it's a little gamesmanship, whatever, but it's also indicative, I think, of a more serious injury that was not quickly diagnosed without an MRI. If you had to ask me, I think you will, it's probably a severe high ankle sprain six weeks. I mean, that would be my guess. It could be worse. We're going to find out today. And so this affects both Alshon Jeffrey and Eddie Royal. And Zach Miller.

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Yes, and Zach Miller. I think Zach Miller has been solid and would have been fine regardless. Alshan Jeffrey, it's about his health, right? If he's fully healthy and he's the main guy there, we've seen Hoyer lock in, you know, last year to D'Andre Hopkins. Alshan Jeffrey could be a beast, but you have to contend with his injuries. The guy that I really love right now who's still, after, you know, the major waiver day, still available in most leagues is Eddie Royal who has been...

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I mean, I think he's a wide receiver 2 on the season. He's number 20 on the season. The problem I have with Royal, and you can argue this, I definitely think he should be signed. I think he could be started. The problem is he's done this very, very many. I mean, he's done this a ton of times where he has three or four flash games and then he disappears. Eddie Royal has finished the season as a wide receiver 2 before with Jay Cutler. I know that was a while ago. But I'm just saying he's not a some nobody.

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that is, you know, doesn't have the talent to do it. And he's looked good so far. So I'm just saying with everything aligning, if you need a weekly start or just a couple of weeks, I like Eddie Royal right now. I'm fine putting him in there. I read a stat. Alshan Jeffrey and all the years passed has averaged 9.86 targets a game. This year, thus far, he's in the six range for targets per game.

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He's still one of the league leaders in terms of downfield yards, despite less targets than just about anybody in that category that's competing with him. Feed him. But obviously he had been limited. I think you're going to see a ton of Jordan Howard. I think you're going to see a ton of Miller and Royal, and we'll see what happens. So I kind of, I don't know what it is. I hated the Bears with Jay Cutler, but I am curious about the Bears with Hoy.

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with Hoyer and Howard and a, you know, they just won a tough game. It's just, it's interesting how these things happen, but I really is, really like Zach Miller moving forward. Speaking of healthy. Oh, wait. No, no, no. Speaking of healthy, is that what you said? Yeah. Wait, you're talking about Ryan Matthews? Darn right. All right. Tell me what's going on. Speaking of healthy, coach Doug Peterson has declared Ryan Matthews healthy, and he will remain the Eagles starting running back. I believe I've got a water bet on that. I'm just going to take a sip.

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I'm fine. Yeah, you have a water. Now that you have come out on the show just now and tutored your horn about the waterbed, I feel no guilt about bringing it on you. Forcing, yeah, I mean, you said 15 carries. Yeah, that's not saying water. Here's the deal for me, which is what I've been. What I've believed, if Ryan Matthews is healthy, he will be the primary ball carrier. Is he going to be on the field for 65% of snaps? No, that's just not going to happen.

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They're going to use Sproles and Barner, these guys, in passing situations. Smallwood will get a couple of carries here and there, but Ryan Matthews should end up with around 15 carries. Okay, all right. Do we have anything else in the news? Cam Newton not practicing, but it's Wednesday. He's still on the concussion situation, but his game is on Monday, so they don't really have to report anything today. Okay. And there was breaking news for...

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Chargers cornerback, Jason Verrett, believes he might have suffered a torn ligament in his knee. They take on the Raiders. This is a huge upgrade, likely for Amari Cooper. Man, the Chargers, what is going on with the Chargers? Dude, they've got to do something about the water over there. Last year, too. Yeah, this is two years running where nobody can stay healthy. Brandon Flowers missed, Jason Verrett missed. Danny Woodhead's gone down. It's not, the vibes aren't good. Jason, I really need.

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your assistance here we have limited drops that i can use with the laptop situation can you do a trumpet like toot the horn type of sound for us you're looking at three of the top 20 most accurate experts for week number four seriously three who wait we were we were all in the top yeah the top 20 on this side of the desk very proud to say number six

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Very nice. Number six. Number six. You know, we're an entertaining show, if I, if I may say this. And so sometimes, sometimes people think like, oh, you know, oh, they're just, they're just entertaining. I don't know about their analysis. We do a lot of research and work into the analysis. We want to be accurate. Jason does way too much. That's why I can be without the laptop. No, but this is my, did Jason beat me? He beat you by two spots. Yes. Am I 20? You are 19.

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Oh, I'll take it. Jason is 17. I finished six this week. Hey, congratulations, fellas. For goodness sakes, uh, is great. Yeah, look, Jason's right, though. I've seen that before because people are, they like the fun that we have. They like the fact we talk about more than just like these stats on the show. We give you context for things and talk about like being a commissioner or enjoying your league. Yeah, I was going to say joy of fantasy football. Right. It's not all just spreadsheet reading, but, um, very, you know, obviously proud to.

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perform well on our rankings for you guys. So, um, moving along. Let's get into, uh, keep trade cut. Keep trade cut. Yeah. Shout out to Steve Smith for those rankings. You came through old man. Yeah, Steve Smith, man. What a, what a great week. All right. Golden Tate, keep trade cut. Cut. Uh, wide receivers are, I'm willing. Once you fall into a certain tier, you're a dime a dozen. I'm willing. I mean, Eddie Royal or Golden Tate, I'll take the.

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What the unknown of Eddie Royal. I completely agree. Yeah, I think he's moved into the cut category. But if Golden Tate's sitting on your waivers and you need a guy to start and you start him, you might get a great week. I mean, he's not a must cut. Yeah. But he's, uh, if, if you need to cut a guy and you've got a laundry list of guys, you go who to cut. Yeah. All right. Golden Tate. Yeah. G. O. Bernard. I would keep him. He's been, he's, he's amazingly still a.

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running back too. I think that was built on week two. Yes. But he's still a talented running back. And they've had some hard, the Bengals have had a very difficult schedule so far. You know, he had the game against the Broncos. That hurt him. I would definitely hold on to Geo. Okay. Let's talk about Frank Gore. Keep trade cut. What? You keep the old man's strength is getting it done again.

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Well, I think one argument, and the reason he's brought up in this context is, do you trade him? Yeah, do you kind of say, all right, he's getting into the end zone more than I think he will? Do you move him? I guess no for Mike. It would be a no for me as well. You drafted Frank Gore to be exactly what he is. And if you put your roster together well, where you've got kind of your boom guys and your safe medium guys, he's filling an important role. If you can get value for him as an RB1, which I believe he is right now.

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Then I would trade him because I don't expect him to, but the reality is Frank Gore never has the respect because of his age that will garner a good trade value. So I'm almost definitely keeping him. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. Matt Jones, didn't you say, Mike, that last week on pro football focus? No, it's through the year. Yeah. Wait, what? Yes. Through the year. Matt Jones has been very efficient. I don't know what the greatest.

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I don't know what the grading system is doing over here, but pro football focus, a very trusted source. I trust them. I believe in their research. According to them, Matt Jones has been the best, as far as efficiency, been the best running back where his, clearly his offensive line is letting him down. But the way that they're grading him out, they think he has played extremely well. Yeah. Shocking. Based on that, based on... Especially for you, Mike. Yeah. Oh, look.

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I believe that we have a video, a clip of you're saying Matt Jones thinks. Yeah, we certainly do. I heard Chris Collinsworth on the broadcast, I think on, what is it, Sunday night. Yeah. And, you know, Pro Football Focus is now featured in the broadcasts as part of the NBC broadcast. And they're much more of an advanced metric type of thing. And I heard him trying to get through some stats that.

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came up for pro football focus and i don't think he had any idea these are like total nerd fantasy they're a little on the nerd fantasy side and i think he was fighting through and like halfway through i think he had no clue what the stat was he was just saying it it was entertaining to me because uh yeah fantasy's breaking in man that's great that's great i love it mainstream there is nobody that you come across that either isn't a hardcore fantasy player or says

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They normally go like this and go, yeah, I don't play, but every single person around me plays. Okay, so with Matt Jones, do you trade for him? No, heck no. I don't. If you can get him cheap, I might trade for him. How do you get him cheap now? I know. His value is going to be inflated because he had a pretty good game. All I'm saying is the person who, the owner who has Matt Jones sees the inflated game. I'm going to try and get value for him.

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They might just be trying to move him, period, because they want out of Matt Jones. If you can trade Matt Jones for Frank Gore or Matt Jones in a situation where you can get a guy that is more consistent. For me, Matt Jones, the problem is that some games are going to be okay. Yes. And some games are going to be like Chris Thompson and then not involved in that team. I'm just afraid to start Matt Jones. I'm not excited about it. Yeah, I can completely agree with that. So, hey, before we get into the rest of the keep trade cut,

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I would trade them. I don't believe in the Jags running D or their running game. I don't believe in Gus Bradley. And, you know, their passing game, I'm fine with because they'll be down. They're running game. I don't want. You can trade Yeldon right now. Deshaun Jackson. I would trade. Keep. Keep. I'm saying trade as in I would trade for him. Yeah, this week he has. I'd try to acquire D. This week he's got a juicy matchup. He's going to go ham. I'd rather start Mike Wallace than Deshaun Jackson.

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Hey, you want to make a third waterbed of the week? Oh, my goodness. Dang it, because that was an easy one. No, Deshaun Jackson is the kind of guy that ruins water bets every third week. Sure. It's just the other two I'd win, but I don't know which week it is. Does the Mike Wallace start have anything to do with the blurb of Joe Flacko is upset that they're not throwing more deep balls? No, it just has to do with the fact they throw the ball 50 times a game. That's fair. And he at least, I think, will have. You know, Deshaun Jackson will have awesome games.

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