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Week 17 Waivers + Christmas Football Preview! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/24

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Week 17 Waivers + Christmas Football Preview! | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1703

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Episode notes & curated moments 8 records
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Deucers Alley gets Christmas hate blockers

The holiday opening explicitly points to Deucers Alley, where the hosts wear seasonal outfits and hate blockers.

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Mike's Papa Josh championship betrayal

Mike says he beat Papa Josh for last year's trophy while Al denies involvement and threatens to win this year.

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Week 18 is a recorder concert

The hosts lovingly support Week 18 while calling it a stupid recorder concert they have to attend.

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Fragile players share one brace pile

Christian Watson and Rashad Bateman are imagined pulling braces and wraps from a shared weekly supply.

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Al faces manslaughter-by-Lamar

Al's anxiety about a Christmas game is escalated into a fake charge if Lamar Jackson ruins his fantasy matchup.

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Dalton Schultz runs with tied shoes

Mike says Schultz looks like a slow monster and imagines his shoes are tied together.

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Mike's underwear wrapping marathon

Mike plans to wrap gifts from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. in underwear and whiskey, while the others confess to ugly packages.

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Episode notes

The Christmas Eve show opens with holiday outfits in Deucers Alley and a fantasy-league betrayal: Mike beat Papa Josh for a title last year while Al is now trying to win and denying involvement. The hosts call Week 18 a recorder concert they must attend even though it is terrible. They compare fragile players to a shared brace supply, joke that Al could be manslaughtered by Lamar Jackson while watching Houston-Baltimore, and describe Dalton Schultz as moving like a monster with tied shoes. The closing turns to the hosts' wrapping habits: Mike plans a late-night whiskey-fueled underwear marathon while others confess to Frankenstein packages.

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You mean a Christmas football.com Christmas football.com football. I love Christmas football.com. I use that website literally every single day. And that's not even a lie. Do we normally have a drop for this? We don't normally have Christmas. Yeah. We have a website for it. Yeah. We don't have a drop, but we own a domain. You gotta, you gotta get out there, man. You gotta snatch those things up. It's like real estate. It's only so many. Well, as, as we've made it very vocal, this is where we make all our money. Yeah. On Christmas football. On domains. Oh yeah. Christmasfootball.com. Christmasfootball.biz.

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Look, NFL. It's available. Uh, Netflix. It's available. Oh. You know what? High is bitter. Netflix might want that. Yeah. We'll take highest. You know what I mean? This is supposed to be, they're really driving it home. This should be a new tradition. Dude. Netflix Christmas. Netflix. You need christmasfootball.com. I mean, Christmas football is a thing. You want christmasfootball.com. Whoever owns that. Mr. And Mrs. Netflix. Mr. And Mrs. Netflix. We have christmasfootball.com. Kansas City. 14 and one. Jerks. Oh man. At Pittsburgh. 10 and five. DraftKings sportsbook line is Kansas City. Minus two and a half. Over under 43. And a half.

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Thank you, Kenny Pickett. Play in this game. Or George Pickens. Kenny Pickens. George Pickens playing in this game. Changes so much. It was kind of the opposite of what we talked about last week. Him not playing. Really felt like it hurt the potential upside. Their offense. The Steelers need George Pickens so much. How much? I mean. It doesn't. I agree. It doesn't work without him because they're. You know. The. Calvin Austin. I think is a decent. Like wide receiver. Three. Who can stretch the field. Pretty decent. Yeah. He's not bad. Mike Williams. At this stage. You know. Of his. Career.

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And injury history. Can. Again. Get down on the side of the field. But they. The defense can handle those guys. No problem. They need an alpha. They need a one. And George Pickens has been so good this season. And I think it's. It's great news. Even if you're playing Chiefs players. That Pickens is in this game. So Pickens is. Is in. Does that. Then how do you feel about. The running backs for Pittsburgh. Because the last two weeks for Najee. It. If you're. If you've been playing Najee in the playoffs. And you were alive. It's not because of Najee. No.

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Who has scored a combined. What about seven points in two games. First of all. You're talking to nobody. Second of all. You couldn't convince someone. To put Najee in for the third time. I just don't think that's possible. But. Okay. So Najee's out. Is Jalen Warren a flex option. A flex level player. You know. Jalen. He passed your. Your. Almighty. Bar last week. He did get. He got 10 points. You're talking about the Warren line. Yeah. The Warren line is 10 points. Right. The Warren line is 10 points. I. I think against Kansas City. He's not going to get it.

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They're the number one defense against running backs. I'm benching both running backs. And just to speak to the other side. Xavier worthy. And the performances of late. I do think that he is more complicated than just. Writing a couple of good games. He scored on the ground. Two weeks ago. He scored last week. His yardage is not prolific. It's important to note that. Like 41. 46. Last week was good. It was 65 yards. I do think Hollywood will be more involved. I do think that you are. You're more in the Bateman territory with worthy than. Than I think you might believe.

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Yeah. I agree with that. The reason you don't believe that is because the back to back 11 targets. So you feel a little safer. Correct. That's true. Targets are wonderful. It's like. Okay. He's very involved in the offense. He's playing. The three weeks in a row. Even with Hollywood back. 80% of snaps. So this is a full-time player. Who's out there getting a bunch of targets. Who's a rookie. With speed. Who also has. You know. As many touchdowns as. He's got to be top five in the NFL. In total. Offensive touchdowns. Yeah. They show. At the wide receiver position. And when they.

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You know. They take those lists. I'm like. Okay. If. Let's flip it upside down. Teams that lost. One score games. If they had won. Every one score game. It's like. Xavier worthy. If he had hit. On. Any of these. Near misses. Like. You know. He's got it. He has to be at 10 plus. One foot. Stopped him from scoring a touchdown. Yeah. Either. Either into the sideline. On accident. Because he couldn't. Get his feet down. Or a misplay over the top. His catch rate. It's wild. His catch rate is 57%. Yeah. That's. That's not. Normal. With Patrick Mahomes. He's also got a yard per catch of 11.

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So. To have a 57% catch rate. With 11. It should be higher. Yard per catch. You think of him as. Oh. I'm going to be a burner. No. They run him in the screen game. They run him in the short stuff. And they try to get him loose. He's a wild card that. I think is. He's flexible. Yeah. Flex. Worthy. Nice. Are you telling me to do it? Oh. Crap. Okay. You heard it here. Flex. Xavier Worthy. All right. Emphysema. Kareem Hunt. We talked about him earlier. He looked. He's looked better than Pacheco. I'd be scared out of my mind to play Pacheco.

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I definitely would want Hunt over him. Just because I think. I'm looking for the end zone. The. Like. Kareem Hunt's always a threat for two touchdowns. They're both. Terrifying. Yeah. They could. There is a world where both of them do literally nothing. Let's talk about the best game ever. Ever. Baltimore. 10 and five. Houston. Nine and six. The DraftKings Sportsbook line. Baltimore. Minus five and a half. Over under. 46 and a half. Al. I'm going to make a. A. Invitation. You'll come over. Two thirty in the afternoon. Christmas day. And sit down and watch this game with me. Absolutely not.

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No. You don't like the fact that. I mean I got Lamar and Flowers on one side. Nico and Mixon on the other. What. What could happen. I just don't want to see you sit there whining when your guys. Oh. Underperform. Well look. It's going to be. It is a fun one. Forty six and a half point over under. Al could die during that game. On Christmas. It is cruel. You could. You could literally murder. Owl. Is it murder if he dies from his own insecurities? No. I guess not. No. That's he. Manslaughter. He was manslaughtered by Lamar Jackson. He would be charged.

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Lamar's playing outrageous football. I don't think the MVP race is over. Personally. That's fair. I think that there's enough time left. My ticket stubs like hearing that. Did you take the plus four hundred on Lamar? I got him a long time ago brother. Higher than that then? Yeah. I still think he's got a shot at it. He's on pace for forty three hundred. And forty two. With another eight sixty seven on the ground. Both of these defenses are pretty great. Baltimore has clamped it down. Fantasy points given up. All of the all the major metrics the last six weeks. The Ravens have really improved.

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The Texans have been soft against wideouts all season long. That'll be you know potentially good news for Flowers and Bateman. Nelson Aguilar is hurt. Mark Andrews keeps catching touchdowns. And I think. You know I think Isaiah likely here and there will be sprinkled into this offense. Derek Henry last week kind of had a return to greatness. After a little bit of a disappointing performance against the Giants. I mean this game is really. Me telling you the players on the teams is not helpful. And you're starting all the good ones. Yeah. The question is. Could this turn into a defensive. No.

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You don't think so. No. I don't think so either. It. It could turn in. I think. It could go one sided. Yes. I think Baltimore could end up potentially crushing the Texans. I'm not calling for that. The fact that this game is in Houston is very valuable and helpful for the Texans. But the Ravens defense. If you look at them over the course of the season. They're average. Because at the beginning of the season this was a defense we targeted. But over the last six weeks. They're top three against quarterbacks. Number two against wide receivers. Top ten against tight ends.

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They're. They're a very difficult defense. Which is more like the Baltimore Raven way. They've figured some things out. And. Yeah. They haven't been given up more than. You know. 18 to 20 points. Since that Cincinnati game. It's. It's up to Stroud. CJ Stroud just hasn't looked. He hasn't looked like the promise of his rookie season. I don't. You lose Tank Dell. I don't really like. I feel like that. I don't feel like Stroud has played bad football. You think it's more play calling and opportunity? I think it's play calling. I think it's missed plays here and there. You know. It was an injury to Nico for part of the season.

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Like. This is the playoff team. And. I think Stroud has done okay. I. Fantasy wise. We've been really let down. And that is. Impacted. I think. A lot of how we view him. He's obviously not had a prolific. Type of year. But there. The play calling has been horrific. They've leaned on mixing more. Which I don't hold against Stroud. Yeah. No. I. I don't either. But it's like. His yards per attempt. Yeah. I think. Yeah. From his rookie year. Yeah. He went from five interceptions his rookie year to 11 so far. He's down four touchdowns. And that's the same exact games played.

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Like he played 15 as a rookie. 15 this year. Yeah. His. But the numbers are. But you're right. It might be. There wasn't a lot of fantasy greatness. No. Correct. It was speckled in. But mostly managing a team that wins games. But. In the. I mean. I'm not looking at game logs. This is just the season. But in. In 15 games last year. He threw the ball 499 times. 15 games this year. 495 times. Yeah. So. They're leaning on mixing. But. His. The raw numbers are. Similar. Are very similar. Except production is way down. Well I talked about. I liked Alton Soltz this week.

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If the game script you guys are talking about. Comes to fruition. Which the Baltimore Ravens are heavily favored. Would you. You're talking just about. What's the easiest. Pass rush. Protective. Target. It's going to be Schultz. Would you go Schultz. For the cheapies. Or Isaiah Likely. I'd go Schultz. If Schultz has. 10 receptions. Can he cross 50 yards. Yeah. Okay. Good. Barely. Yeah. He'll cross it very. Very slowly. It's funny. He looks so slow. Are you guys watching it now? Oh yeah. This is what's funny about you. Calling your shot on. His shoes are tied together man. On Schultz is that.

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I have never. I don't remember the last time. Watching on Sundays. Watching football. A player has made you more viscerably angry when it doesn't matter. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'll just constantly. Every time Schultz has the ball. You're like. Yeah. He's so slow. Yeah. I just. It just bugs me. He. I don't feel like he was this slow. Like when you're watching a monster movie. And the monster's gigantic. But so it looks like it's moving so so slow. That's how Dalton moves. But. But he's not gigantic. He's. He's the. Non. Chig. Sneaky play for me. This. Okay. That I feel really good about.

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Seattle. At Chicago. Is the Thursday night game. The last one we'll preview today. Before we head into. Christmas. Eight and seven. Seattle. Four and eleven. Chicago. The DK Sportsbook line. Seattle minus three and a half. The over under is forty three and a half. Seattle. Must win. They gotta win. Caleb Williams in Chicago. Don't know how to win. But. Keenan Allen's been really good under Waldron. Yeah. Or since. Well. Since the change. Yeah. Since Shane Waldron left. Yes. Yeah. Since the departure. Since the. Jettisoning. Of the head coach. And the offensive coordinator. But I mean. He's been the. He's been the wide receiver.

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Nine. Five. Fifty five. Fifteen and two. Wow. I. So. I don't know how I missed this. I really. I'm looking. At the show doc. And I see. That the. The bears are four and eleven. Yeah. And I'm like. Well wait. Wait a minute. They're four and eleven. Weren't they like. Four and two. Yeah. Something like that. They were. They were four and two. Had their bye week. And have lost every game. Since. I mean. That. That's what. That's. That's insane. I didn't realize that they have. Not. Won. This many games in a row. Watching Caleb Williams right now. Is. Difficult.

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Does he. Like. By the end of the game. He's giving you production. But it's just. Watching him in the pocket. When the first read is covered up. And he just. He freaks out. Oh. Breaking news. What? What are we. Breaking news. Camera over here. Oh no. On this one. Uh oh. Uh. The Jets. Uh. It's two minutes ago. They are uncertain. About. The playing status. Of. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers. This week. Due to knee injury. Oh man. And. Uh. Owl. Do you. Have any reason. That matters to you. I do have. Devante Adams. Okay. How does that make you feel inside.

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Uh. You said they're uncertain. Yeah. Uncertain. That's how it makes me feel. Okay. So. Uh. Yeah. He just. I noticed he switched. Um. His status. In sleeper. And. Uh. Breaking news. Two minutes ago. Uncertain about his. Playing status. With a knee injury. Okay. Um. How would that make you feel about. Oh. Micah. Here it. Hold on. Mike is also worried. Yeah. Because he's got Garrett Wilson in his lineup. Yeah. Tyrod Taylor. Anybody. All right. Look. You will not have a peppering of targets. To the Aaron Rodgers capacity. With Tyrod Taylor. But. You could still have big plays. But maybe. Maybe Taylor likes Garrett Wilson more than Aaron Rodgers.

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Because Aaron Rodgers seems to hate him recently. You mean. Uh. Devante Adams. No. Garrett Wilson. He's not throwing him the ball. Oh. I see what you're saying. And like. Did you see Garrett after the game? Who Garrett is. Unhappy. He is. Not pleased. He's never been happy. Yeah. Since he arrived in New York. That's why. That poor soul man. Yeah. That's why he arrived in New York. Yeah. He's on the Jets. If I were Garrett Wilson. I would. I would force a trade. That's kind of the. That's what people are alluding to. Isn't he on the edge of fifth year situation?

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He's the Drake London year. So. He could do this. He could get out. And I would get out. Yeah. If you can. Get out. Yeah. So. Back to this matchup. Uh. Ken Walker. Didn't practice. He's hurt. Yeah. Zach Charbonnet still limited. People. You know. They need to understand. Zach Charbonnet missed practices last week. And. There was a point during the week. Where Walker was further ahead than Charbonnet. That was the report. So. Because of that. Charbonnet got limited work in the game. Even after Walker's injury. Kenny McIntosh involved. But. Charps was. Listed as. Limited. Yes. So. This is. This is gross.

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This is gross for. For championship week. I agree. But it's at least. That's somewhat good news. To be. Like if Charb is active. Are you just playing him? I think so. Assuming that. That Walker is out. I think Charbonnet is a good play. Yeah. I agree. The Bears rush defense has not been good. They're 26th against running backs. Dude. I'm. I'm scared. I did not like what I saw happening last week. With an active. Charbonnet. That they could still. Barely use. I mean. He played. He had. One carry. He had three opportunities. Yeah. I'm not saying you're wrong. You could be right.

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He could be fine this week. But I don't like the precedent. That has already been set. Of. He can be active and do nothing. The. When they needed him. They needed him in that game. But I'm. My. Read of that would be. That he. But he was missing all that time. And so. The game plan. Was. It's Kenny Walker. And then. And Kenny McIntosh. Because that. That's what we practice. Those are the. The plays that we set up. And ran. Yeah. And the nice thing is. Three points. I mean. They needed him. The nice thing is. One. Carry. This last week.

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For Charbonnet. Means that. He did. Not exacerbate. That injury. He's got. He should have a little bit of time. To heal up. Yeah. I mean. If Ken Walker's out. And Charbonnet is practicing in full. You've got yourself a starter. Yep. DJ Moore. Has not done. What Keenan Allen has done. Of light. He. He makes you nervous. In fact. What's more bothersome to me. DJ Moore has pieced together. Relevant fantasy weeks. What is bothersome. Is it's all. Just. Annoying fashion. It's not in. Like. Down the field. Every time Caleb threw the ball down the field last week. It was Keenan Allen.

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Or Roman Dunes. And then here's. Little screen. Jay Moore. Yes. Like. He's. Why are we doing this? Why are we not giving him. These deep opportunities. He's forcing his way over 10 points. Like. Oh. Over the last. Five of six games. Over the last five. Over the last. You know. Five games. He's been very startable in four of them. And you can back it up to six. Five of the last six. It's just. Don't. Don't watch it. Because. We've. We're out now. But. Jason and I have been playing DJ Moore. And it's like. I'm watching these games. And I'm. Like.

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Freaking out. Of. Why. DJ Moore is getting absolutely nothing. And then the. I look at the log at the end. I'm like. What? DJ Moore had 10 points? There's. You don't need that stress in your life. Yeah. But Keenan Allen on the other hand. He seems like someone that you really want. To play. Yeah. I mean. The last five games. 86 yards. 73 yards. 30. It was a down game. 82. 141. And during those games. One touchdown. Two touchdowns. One touchdown. He is. The number one wide receiver. For this new offense. With Caleb Williams. And Caleb Williams. I know what you're saying Mike.

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