Fantasy Football - Week 14 Studs & Duds + Andy's Bad Luck - Podcast for 12/8

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Hi, welcome in. Monday, December 8th, the fantasy footballers podcast. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Back in the building, a Monday episode. We have one game left until your fantasy playoffs, but we're a year-round show. So you hang around with us.

And we keep talking about football. Yes. It's never too soon. I, you know, we're all monitoring all of our leagues and some of us are fighting for the last spot in a couple of leagues. And, you know, I was in the playoffs in the listener. Yes. Like as going into going into last week, you were a. current playoff team. If the if the season ended in the listener league last week, you're in the playoffs. So I'm like, what is my job this week? You just got to go to an O. Just go to it. We got the median in there. I just need to go to it. Did you go to an O? Easily. Boom. Playoffs. Except not. Huh? Except not because somebody behind me scored like more points than the system allows. Than reasonable? Like an unreasonable amount of points? Passed me in points because we had the same record.

So now I'm sweating it tonight. I think I need, I still got a good shot. Okay, what's your situation? I need one of the teams ahead of me went 0 and 2, and so they're going to tie me in record, and they did not score many points. That makes sense. So they need Ladd-McConkie to score like 17. So you're anti-Lad. I'm anti-Lad, and then I think we'll all three be, we'll be three of the six spots in the listener league playoffs. That gives people, if one of us is the champ. then that's a whole other spot open and available for next year's listener league. That's it. That's it right there. And I think Jason, you're in kind of a fight in one of our leagues trying to grab that last spot. There were like eight or nine teams at seven and six or six and seven in this league, the most parody ever. Yeah, the league we play with Rich Eisen, that is the weird, the whole season, like all of the league was tied. Everyone's record felt like the exact same. I'm like, my team is really, really good. Yeah. And I'm the same record as.

Half the people in the playoffs, but I don't think I will get there in that one. If people want to join us in rooting against Rich Eisen. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Look, simultaneously great friend and arch nemesis. Right. Terrible man. Of the show. Just the worst. Oh, wait. We're going, we're going personal. Because we love Eisen. Yeah. Yeah. We can do this. Uh, I have Quge and A.J. Brown. Uh-huh. And they will be facing off against Ladd. So Andy's anti-Lad. And I have my two guys versus Ladd. It's just a heads up. Whoever scores more points will win. Oh, and it'll bounce him from the playoffs? If Ladd does not outscore those two guys, then Rich Eisen's in the playoffs. I can get in the playoffs. So I get you to boot him so I can get in. All right. So we're all really anti-Lad tonight.

Sounds so. Your little dad. Your little lad is that hurts. My little beaty. That hurts. We have our reactions to the weekend. There were some injuries that are going to have ramifications into the fantasy playoffs. Dude, I was having such a good morning. I totally forgot about it. Yeah, I had wiped those out. Genuinely, is it worse right now to be a Cardinals fan where we know like we're so used to living inside of the poop? Right. That we don't smell it anymore. If you live on the farm, there is no scent. There's no smell. Or is it worse to be, so a Cardinals fan with no hope and the worst coach and all of this drama. Or is it worse to be a Colts fan. It is not fair to Colts fans. It is the worst most brutal. You were. Let's trade for sauce because we're going to try to close out this maybe buy week type of team. Trade two first for sauce, not just to close it out and be a by week team, but to be a legitimate.

Super Bowl contender. Not a playoff team. Oh, we can make the playoffs. This is, we might finish the year hoisting the trophy. And now, I genuinely do not believe they make the playoffs. I don't, I don't think they're the eighth seed right now. So they're not in the playoffs. And they're not going to be better. The tiebreaker, Houston has the tiebreaker. Oh, man. The team's ahead of them, Los Angeles. Tonight's a big game for Los Angeles. It's not fair. And for those who didn't. Here, Daniel Jones tore his Achilles. So he, done for the year. The situation is done for a year. It's insane because Daniel Jones was on a one year. Yeah, he's a free agent. They trade two first rounds because they know that we're going to lock up Daniel Jones as our franchise quarterback. The dude has no more money left. He just tore his Achilles. It takes time to come back from that. Do you, they'll pay him.

Will you? That's what it will come down to. You think they'll franchise him maybe? I think they'll pay him. That would make sense. Now, that being said, it's tough for the ownership, for the team, for the fans. You're in such a weird, hard position. The funny thing is he is a complete and open free agent, meaning if they don't franchise him, he can go out and when you say they'll pay him. If I'm Daniel Jones, I'm taking the money. I don't know how I'm coming back from an Achilles injury. I test the whole market, not just Indy, and I go, hey, every team that needs a quarterback, because he just showcased himself. I mean, a franchise would make sense, but it's also like, how soon are you going to be back? Is it going to be weeks into the season? It is the current timeline estimation is that he could potentially be ready for week one. The hardest part about that is one. Part of his special sauce is running the football. So coming back from an Achilles injury and able to run is it's a tall task. Now, Kirk Cousin's got a big check.

after his Achilles injured. Yeah. But he was also much older. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like he got a big check much older. And look what that was. No, I know. I know. Achilles, you don't want to mess around with you. Right. I would, I would say the, Daniel Jones has made money. Like, do not forget he was a first round pick. So automatically he's made a good amount of cash. Then he got that extension with the Giants. That was like real controversy. So you're saying he doesn't have to take the bag. Yeah, he doesn't have to go get the biggest bag because he's.

I think he'll be back with the Colts. I think the Colts want him. He loves being a part of a franchise that wants him. Yeah, you had another win by New Orleans this week, which Tyler Shuck is playing well. He's looking good. I'm looking at the standings. Like the big, I think one of the big changes this week to me is just the landscape of that top quarterback spot where, look, I don't think Tennessee in any realm takes the quarterback. But now Las Vegas. has a worst record than Cleveland does and is tied with the Titans. So Las Vegas could end up with potentially the number one pick in the draft. They desperately need a quarterback. But they don't have the number one right now. Yeah, the Giants have the number one. Like if it's not going to be my Arizona Cardinals having their pick of whoever, I want it to be the Giants. I really do. I want the Giants to have the first overall pick. Get just a haul. Oh, to move back. To move back. Move back. You've got your.

Move back, get a crazy offensive line in at like five with a hall of picks and be awesome. Yeah, you have a franchise quarterback. You have a number one wide receiver. You have a starting top tier running back. Like you have and then you have some other ancillary pieces that are like. Wondale and Slayton with neighbors. Yeah. Like that's, that is good. They're made to be twos and threes and three. They could turn around so fast. They have the, uh, they have three or four games at home to finish the season against four teams with not without raining. They play Vegas too. Yeah. That's going that our, uh, the tank, our tank ball or whatever we call it is the dung bowl. I think we're going with dung bowl. Dung bowl. That, that, that'll be it. And Cleveland who, you know, because two of those picks.

Tennessee probably won't take that that quarterback. The Giants don't need a quarterback assuming that Dart doesn't kill himself on the field this year. Right. Cleveland, man. Cleveland obviously does not need a quarterback now. Right? By the end of the year, they may not. They shouldn't be talking about Deshaun Watson coming back and setting the table for that for us if they were looking at a quarterback. I mean, Shador went off. Shador has 46 fantasy points. Yeah. He. It was simultaneously like a great game for Sanders and yet I saw like the time of like he was holding the ball so long and stop backing up. Oh yeah. Mike said this forever. Stop it. Stop it. Someone put a wall behind him. Never. Just come up in the pocket. Ever, ever once seeing him step up in the pocket. He has stepped up to run. Like if if pressure's there and he escapes and goes forward, fine. Stop backing up. Outside of that, he's never once just taken that two steps forward in the pocket.

in his life, including college. Yeah, and he's still, I mean, still a lot better than what they've had. Yeah. So we'll see. I hope he's great. I think it would be fun for all my sports cards. All right, we're getting into Monday Punday. You submitted them. We're going to read them in a sophisticated way. News. We'll start with the good, and this is part of the Shador game, Harold Manning, Jr. Oh, yeah, Harold Fantastic. What about? Bazooka Nukua. Yeah, baby. Or Puka Nuclear. Oh, how about my start of the week? Michael Thrillson. He's so good. That situation has to be investigated. What is happening there for malpractice? We got Frico Collins. And Christmas Watson. Oh, baby. I'll take the boom boom here. Brandon Dogry. He's really good. Me and B-Cat got to the playoffs because of Brandon Aubrey on one of our teams. Doggery. Dogry, sorry. Blake, score him.

I was hoping I wouldn't get stuck with this one. I Corumba. Icoramba. Yeah. Shoulder Santa. What? It's the season. It is. We're jamming them in. Season for terrible. How about Tony Holla? Yeah, I faced Tony Pollard this week. That was great. We had some bad and wasn't, I mean, it was real bad last night with. Travis D. Kelsey. Yeah, which caused a hat trick my home. Oh, yeah. Yeah, three picks. Trashed and gentsy, that's so me. Disgusting Jefferson? That's their. Jamar Wastes. Oh, man, Breece Hall of Shame. Oh, and then this guy that can't catch now. Egg puka. Yeah. Mecca. Fluka. What? It was raining. It was wide open. It was wide open. I know. Kenneth Walker, the turd.

Fart Andrews. Chris Nolave. And Darren Squallor. Yeah. I think, I mean, a lot of expectations this week. Jack Squat. You can submit your Monday Pundays at Fantasy Footballers on Instagram on X at the FF Ballers. That one is, look, if it wasn't close to Christmas, it wouldn't have made the list. I hope that's not a June one. Yeah. I would only accept that on Christmas Day. On Christmas Day. Okay. That's rough. That one, I deleted a couple others. That was some of the best. We're getting into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by progressive insurance. Breaking news, Emeka Buka has forgotten how to catch the ball. Now, I don't know if you guys know his line. I'm sure everyone in the world has seen his awesome route. Just, just. Oh, yeah, he left the defender. Nukes a guy.

to get wide open in the end zone and then gets a lobbed pass and then it's like i don't know how to catch it did in all fairness to abuka it hit him directly in the hands right so it's like maybe that was hard not just maybe they need because all those amazing catches he made at the beginning of the year that were difficult maybe when baker sees him he's got to throw it a little away from him like make it difficult i feel like i have to defend him wait this is how i feel how many targets Do you think Ameca had? It wasn't a lob. I just watched it. It's not a lot. If you were crushing Chris Olave for two weeks ago, not catching that bomb pass, you need to put Ibuka into Davy Jones locker. Ibuka had nine times. It was a way easier catch. Nine targets. It's a way easier catch. I'm looking at this thing, man. It is a drop of all drops. It is so not. That's a, that was a warm up. Okay.

All right. Well, how about the rest? Because he caught two of his nine. Well, this has been the problem. He caught two of his nine. He had 15 yards. He should have had an amazing game. That's the story of the last eight weeks. There's no defense. Yeah. It's so weird because this guy, I mean, I love him. He was my favorite water striver coming out this year. He was a my guy. He gets off to a hot start. Has the hamstring injury in week seven. And then you turned off the faucet at that point. I, yeah. I would go talk to whoever my friend is in my dynasty league and just crap all over a book and be like, I'll take them off. Let me do you a solid. I hate when people crap on someone and then they try to trade for him. Like, dude, I see right through you. What's been really wild is, yeah, we saw the catch percentage with him, but like, let's not bury the lead here. Like, they lost to the Saints. Like this is the division leader. Like Baker was an MVP candidate.

And then it's really falling apart for the entire offense. Like Baker in and of himself has been more inaccurate, more mistakes. The team can't move the offense. I mean, look at this. They have Godwin back. They lose to the Saints. They can't get enough points on the board. The Saints are playing well. I don't think that the Saints look like a two or three win team. They're there. It is what they are though. No, I know, but they also started the majority of the season. You know, they were with the Rattler. And to talk about Baker, I know like things were kind of rough before the injury, but it's reminding me like in Cleveland where I think it was, was it year two or you three, I can't remember where, I mean, he was just beat up. He had a one shoulder that was just annihilated. But because he's so tough, he plays through it. And then you're like, well, you're not very good. And if you didn't play, well, you're a baby. He's in a.

in a tough situation. Breaking news, Egbuka went gloves first quarter. No gloves second quarter. Oh, man. Gloves back on in the fourth quarter. You got to go double glove. No, I was going MJ. Did he have just a one glove? Did he have a, what was the situation? Like two gloves on each hand. Fourth quarter was gloves. Dumb and dumber style. Like make your hand sweat. By the way, Baker, how many times in the last seven weeks does he throw on more than one touchdown pass? In the last seven weeks. Seven weeks. Once? One time. That makes sense because there's one good game for a Buka. He keeps throwing to Abuka. He's like, catch the ball, dude. Buka in the last eight. It wasn't just him. Godwin dropped the wide open touchdown last week. Buka in the last eight games. So that's like half a season. We'd never talk about him today. Sorry. Half a season of a buca. This is the new section. This is the new section. This is breaking news. Half the season, eight games played. He is on pace for 153 targets.

You can't ask for more than that. 60 catches. What? 40% catch rate. I can't remember. Well, he was catching everything in the beginning. He has great hands. I mean, you can't really say that now, but someone tweeted it out. I can't like, it really was raining. It was raining, yes, for the last eight weeks. But it was like, Abuka on the week was the number one most expected fantasy points. Yeah, he had. The whole world was his oyster and there's no pearl in that. We'll have to make decisions. Are there pearls in oyster? Yeah. Yeah, that's where they are. Where'd you think they come from? Yeah, there we go. Do oysters do pearls too? No. Oysters are where pearls come from. We are sounding real dumb right now. Do pearls come from oysters? This is the dumbest thing. Yes, pearls come from. Yes, it is. Of course. Well, I don't know, man.

It's raining in here. I can't, we can't get our. Also, pearls can come from clams as well. What else can they? I don't know. Give me some more pearl making animals. It comes from crickets. Muscles. Oh, muscles. Muscles can have pearls. What it says. Dude, D. K. McK. F.S. Oh, right. I knew where it was going. Justin Herbert officially questionable, but expected to play. Hampton's going to be activated. Off I-R for tonight's game. Let's go Hampton. I need you. I need a big game. I saw people say Vidal or Hampton, if you needed a few points, like if you needed 10 points, who would you play? I'm going down with Hampton. I would go down. That's exactly my quote. I go down with Hampton. I will be Jack Sparrow just on that, on that ship going down. Look, if it goes into the ocean, that's where we go together. We talked about Daniel Jones, tearing his Achilles. This is devastating because if you.

If you look at the Colts, they're fighting for their playoff lives. Anthony Richardson's on IR. He had fractured his, an orbital bone. Yeah. With, I believe, an exercise band. An exercise band in warm-ups of a Cardinals game. Something like that. Riley Leonard is the quarterback now, who was a six-round pick out of Notre Dame. It is terrifying for Jonathan Taylor managers. It is. terrifying for Alec Pierce managers. It's terrifying for Michael Pittman managers. Yeah. It is bad for all. It's bad for Tyler Warren managers. Oh, for sure. What if you have Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman and... You're heading into the playoffs as an underdog? You're heading into the playoffs as an underdog. We obviously... Just asking for a friend. It was like half a game or whatever. But Riley Leonard...

Really hyper-targeted Michael Pittman. No, no, no. I know he had 34% target share in the past steps from Riley Leonard. That's all fine and dandy. But if you, I mean, we were watching the game. That game by that time was such a blowout. The Colts were manhandled by the Jaguars. And so at the end of the game, I was watching those, getting those juicy, stanky garbage points from Michael Pittman. But it was just a, it was like he'd take the snap. The defense drops back like 30 yards. And then he'd throw it six yards to Michael Pittman over and over and over. Sure. That's just not. I mean, I got to give you some hope. But that's not the neutral. Yeah, that's the situation. Exactly. No, it's terrible. Jaden Daniels also got hurt again. Oh, man. If you remember my prize picks was the switch from Mario to Jaden. If they had both combined for 200 points, would you have given me credit. Did they? No. Then yes. Then yes, I would have. It was terrible. And again, this injury.

We've at least seen Mariotta a lot, but it's not what you want. Now, the good news is it appears that the game was kind of out of hand. They got so out of hand. And so they didn't put Daniels back in the game, but it was said that they basically could have that I think was a pain issue, not a re-injury issue. So hopefully he's back next week. But it's also one of those things where it's like, it's very difficult to be like, why is he playing football? This team has three wins. There's very little play for. And he's obviously still dealing with an injured arm. I wouldn't want him in that situation. Now, in that same game, there was a real injury, a sad injury, a brutal injury, but we should have seen it coming. What do you mean you should have seen it coming? Because of Mike's. Oh, stop. Oh, stop. Mike's magical season, man. I did not want Ertz going out like that. I know you don't, but you want.

You want the senator. I want an opportunity for him. And all of a sudden, your magical season, you got it. I mean, no, dare you accuse me of dark magic. You do realize. I don't know if you've realized it. It's like shot for shot what happened to Trame McBride. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a torn ACL for the same guy ahead of him in Zach Erd. No, Zach Ertz is his second torn ACL. And, you know, Jack Ertz is at an amazing career. Yeah. I feel terrible for him if this is the way it ends because it probably is. Mm-hmm.

But that's just creepy. Oh, yeah. It's almost identical. And so that that means that Ben Senate out of nowhere is going to be like the tight in one for the final month of the season. Please do not quote me on that. No, I quote quote Mike on that. I didn't say anything. I know. Quote him. He said it with his heart. He's trying to be upstanding over there. Gino Smith left early. I'm so excited for Benson. Push the button. I don't even know what button to push. The Senator. Oh, come on my God. Dude, I forgot I had a button. I am the Senate. That's because he had to. No, that doesn't feel good after the arts injury. No, that feels real bad. Don't put that on me. How dare you, Mike? No, Ben Sin is not doing nothing. No, probably not. Gino Smith left with the right shoulder injury. Bates. Bates is going to go.

Yeah, Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll is one and done. Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll sucks. What were you up to? Is this the field goal? What were you up to, Pete? I cannot find any. Like, I like playing devil's advocate. I like finding the argument for the other side of things. If you didn't see it, they're down 10 points. They throw the ball down the field with five seconds left. The referees call a penalty. So there's two seconds left on the clock after a penalty. They're down 10 and they kicked a field goal. I think it was a couple more seconds than two. It was to end the game, right? Yeah, time ran out. Time was going to run out. They thought somehow they would kick a field goal.

While time runs out. And what no, and you have one second left and then recover the onsite and score the touchdown. Is that what they described it as? No. No, that's the only way I can think of them. The line was eight and a half. I can tell you. I can tell you genuinely the devil's advocate. What are you up to? The devil's advocate story is easy to me. If I am the head coach and I know that the line is eight and a half, this isn't a betting thing like I have bet, but I want. I want to cover the spread. I want to, I want to, I want to cover that spread. Just so I'm kicking the field goal. It's literally to cover the spread. That is a hundred percent of betting thing. And as a coach, you should never pay attention to any of that stuff ever. It was Peter. I mean, Peter. I mean, it's like, I've, I've done this in Madden. I go like where you're like, not in the NFL. Yeah, we're like, the game is over. You're like, yeah, but I lost by less. Mafia was like unlimited bubble gum forever.

I mean, Peter. Peter. It was weird. Pete. Tarrad Taylor, as always, injured. And the team will play the guy that's best for the team in the future weeks. Well, Justin Fields was inactive with a knee injury. And I can't even remember the guy who played. Cook? Is that right? Brady Cook. What's his name? Brady Cook. Yeah, man. Quarterback at Missouri. Let him cook. Okay, Garrett Wilson is eligible to come off of IR this week. If I were him, I would say, nah. No, thanks. I'm good. What are you? I am not eligible. Just sign here to come off IR. No, I would go. I would be like, yeah, heck yeah, man. Let me go out there. I'm going to take a row. Oh, good indeed. Sorry, guys. Devon A. Chan left early with a rib injury did not return. Mike McDaniel says he was available to return. I was happy that that wasn't a knee or lower body injury.

He seems like he'll be fine. He might be able to play with a flack jacket. And McDaniel said that he will, he said, like, something along the lines of, I promise he will be there if he's ready. I'm following this closely because I play against A-chan next week. Also, the comment, buddy, take one week. Wait, that's the team you're playing in our league of record? It is. You're playing against Gibbs and Josh Allen. Gibbs and Josh Allen and A-chan and I lost basically Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman and C.D. Lambs. So see you guys on the fishing hole. I'll be out by the lead. Couldn't decide if he wanted to go boat. Yeah. If you want, you should, you should call your shot and start driving before the game. Before the games start, just start driving. Wherever the fish are. Yeah. Get my fishing pole, my fishing rod. Oh my gosh. You're asking us how to fish. Keaton, Mitchell left with the knee injury, he had a big run.

DK Metcalf. We're powered down. Yeah. I don't know if you guys out there saw the run. It was Keith. It's Keaton Mitchell. Whose calling card is speed. Fastest guy. And he broke to the outside and got caught because he like. Do you see the college play that happened last week? Oh my gosh. I showed Mike. Where he where a guy's wide open. There's no one in front of him for and he's got like a defender six yards behind him. and he's just got the sideline to run up and he's at about the 30 he just runs out of bounds yeah and the commentator's like no one's gonna catch this guy where he ran out of bounds what did he wasn't there was no momentum no he just chose to like left turn i want to end this play it was so i've never seen anything like that dk mpcalf stayed overnight in baltimore after going to a local hospital following the game experiencing stomach pains we haven't heard anything else the stomach pains were