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Mock Draft Battle: Fantasy Hitman vs Big Shimmy - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/1

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Mock Draft Battle: Fantasy Hitman vs Big Shimmy - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/1

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No, I shut it down. I was already still tilting over the Travis Kelsey situation. If I take a wide receiver here, I would go with Stefan Diggs. But the running backs who I would consider here, I'm fine taking Noggi here personally. But Noggi, my champion, Antonio Gibson. Those would be the running backs that I would be deciding between if I wanted to stack up there. But I'm going to tell you who I thought you were going to go with.

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Yeah, please do. I thought you were going to go with Awesome Echler. He's in consideration for me as well. But I'm going to take my number three wide receiver off the board. Just be strong and stout, at least at my RB one and my wide receiver one. I went with Stefan Diggs from the Buffalo Bills. All right. And I was hoping that either Austin slash Awesome Echler or Joe Mixen would return to me. So, Mike, this must make you happy.

27:46 ↗

It does not make me happy that those guys are gone. You cannot take them. But you're in such a good spot here with your boy, Cam Acres still there, Antonio Gibson, Calvin Ridley, if you wanted to grab my wide receiver for, Najee Harris. You could take one of the big tight ends if you want. Pick, yeah, man. If you're on the edge and Travis Kelsey doesn't drop to you, this sucks, man. I feel like I'm already up against it.

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Well, that's good to hear. I feel like I'm in a good spot. I took, you know, one of my guys that I think, you know, I'm higher than consensus in Zeke in the first round. And I'm going to take another guy that I'm higher than consensus in the second. I didn't get him the last mock draft we did. I'm going to take Cam Acres, who I really believe has a chance to be a top five type of running back. And there's a lot of projection going on there. But I think if you are able to pair him with someone like Zeke,

28:43 ↗

someone that is at the very least assured of volume, then you have the luxury to be wrong about Cam Acres and not submarine your team at the running back position. After Cam Acres, we saw D.K. Metcalfe, Najee Harris, Calvin Ridley, Antonio Gibson, then Team 3 took Patrick Mahomes. They want to get that QB1 locked in there. George Kittle, A.J. Brown, that rounded out the second round. Jason, oh, were you shaking your head?

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I was shaking my head because I looked at what was available for me and I was disappointed. Coming down in the third round, Michael Thomas, Justin Jefferson. So Michael Thomas, ahead of Justin Jefferson. That's interesting. J.K. Dobbins, Clyde Edwards Allaire, Darren Waller, DeAndre Swift, and Terry McLaurin. Jason is on the clock looking at the makeup of some of these teams. It is interesting. You have a couple balance teams, but you also have Team 4 and Team 6.

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running back hoarding. You have Team 4 here with Alvin Camara, Antonio Gibson, and Clyde Edwards Allaire. That is a nice foundation. It's ironic. You don't have to take any more running backs. It's ironic you bring that up because my goal, having started with Zeke and Cam Acres, what my hope was when I took Cam Acres was I wanted.

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Clyde Edwards Allaire, who I've seen drop to this spot, I wanted him to get back to me. Because if I could have started Zeke, Cam Acres, Clyde Edwards, Lear, I would have started with those three. And you're exactly right. I might not have drafted another running back the entire rest of the draft. Maybe with my last pick, if there's someone that's fallen to a great value or something like that. But if you can really show massive strength at the beginning, then you can load up.

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at your wide receiver and your flex spot. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. So I'm looking here at the running backs that are left. I don't feel confident enough. David Montgomery would be the next good back. Chris Carson is there. And they're good. But they're not necessarily good enough for me to bypass my first wide receiver. I've already got two running backs and take that strategy. So that strategy is out for me. Darren Waller, George Kittle are gone. So tight end is out for me. We're in the third round?

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So quarterback is out for me. So I know I'm at wide receiver here. And when I'm at wide receiver, I'm between my two highest guys, which would be Amari Cooper and Alan Robinson. And I have seen this quite a bit this year where I'm looking between those guys. And I like Amari Cooper more. He is ahead of my ranking. That doesn't bother me at all. But I'm not going to take him. Whoa. Okay. Okay. Because I have seen. And the reality is.

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I'm on the short turn here, so this might be less valuable for me than if I was about to go on to my long turn pick. But the reason I'm going to select Alan Robinson instead of Amari Cooper is CD Lamb. The fact that if CD drops to a certain spot, I like taking him. But I don't want to stack him with Amari Cooper. And so I feel like if I'm taking Alan Robinson, there's no one else there that would get in.

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my way of a wide receiver that I like. So I'm going to take Alan Robinson. He's a top 10 wide receiver in my rankings this season. How do you feel about having Zeke? Did the fact that you had Zeke as your foundational running back factor into the Omari Cooper at all?

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No, no, that didn't. I am fine personally. So you'll be fine with Zeke. If Zee-Land comes back, you're good with that. I am good with that. There's different strategies you implement with stacking, right? If you're talking best ball. Oh, come on, Team 11. Goodness gracious. Oh, this is great. I love it. Tilt, Mike. Tilt and die. So Jason took Allen Robinson, then Keenan Allen, David Montgomery, and Team 11.

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Crushes my spirit, yet again, they took Chris Carson. Carson was the last running back that I am comfortable with spending my, you know, a late third or early fourth. Because on the board, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Kareem Hunt, or to me, we are in that zone where it is, it is gross. And I really don't want a part of it. So I'm looking over at the wide receiver position because I greet, I mean, I don't even.

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At tight end, maybe I could take Mark Andrews here. I don't hate that, actually. I'm going to consider that. But I am going to be the one that scoops up Amari Cooper from you. I figured. So Aaron Jones, Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper. I dig that. Now do I just take CDLAM? Go with my super stack and then take Dak at the back of the fifth and go all in on the Cowboys doing something great. But no.

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While you decide, I'm going to take Mark Andrews here. Okay. I've not mocked a team with Mark Andrews, so I don't know how I will feel at the end of it. But in wide receiver wise, you're talking, you know, Evans, Godwin. Those are guys I could have gone with. But, you know, they have their own question marks of Tom Brady spreading things around a little bit more and just locking it down. I don't have to fret. I don't have to think about the waiver wire.

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for Mark Andrews or with Mark Andrews as my tight end. My fab, zero dollars. Hopefully we'll be going to the tight end position. It's just locked in. So there's a bit of security that I like going with Mark Andrews right there. Yeah, I get that. I think we've learned over the last decade, especially the direction that the NFL's been going, that if you have a secure tight end spot, it is.

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a real advantage because you can't you can't just pick up guys off the waiver i mean you could stream against the bad matchup and that works for tight end but it is not as prevalent and easy as it is with quarterback quarterback you know if you're streaming that position you could do it every single week if you're in a single quarterback league and you will be fine but the reality is when you do that with tight end you could have a good week or you can end up with jack squat

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After Mark Andrews, Mike Evans, Miles Sanders, Chris Godwin, and Jason is back on the clock. Zeke, Cam Acres, Alan Robinson, that is your team thus far. Your strategy of passing on Amari Cooper to let C.D. Lamb drop. That worked out for you. He is available. Julio Jones is there. Robert Woods.

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DJ Moore. There's some interesting wide receivers here. Are you sticking to your guns? I am sticking with my strategy right now of feeling like I'm locked into wide receiver. I'm not at the place I would draft a quarterback yet. The titans on the board don't interest me at this spot and the running backs aren't worth it. So C.D. Lamb, my strategy of bypassing Amari Cooper and taking Alan Robinson in case C.D. Lamb was my highest ranked wide receiver. It worked. He's here, but he's not my highest ranked wide receiver. One spot ahead of him in my rankings.

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is in fact first ballot Hall of Famer Julio Jones. Okay. And I am taking Julio Jones. I think Julio with Alan Robinson is going to be a great wide receiving core. Plenty of targets. I don't think Julio is going to be what he was in Atlanta, but he is still my next highest ranked wide receiver. I'll take him over C.D. Jacobs. Josh, Alan, Robert Woods, Kyler Murray, Miles, Gaskin, Kareem Hunt, and Citi Lamb dropped all the way to the back of the fourth round.

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We start out the fifth with Kenny Goliday, DJ Moore, rookie Travis ETN, fell down to the fifth round there. Adam Thielen, he will be a very polarizing figure in fantasy football. Lamar Jackson, Kyle Pitts, and Brandon Ayukin goes, and then Jason, your backup on the board. Your team is completely balanced, two running backs, two wide receivers. Where are you leaning? Well, I am sad. I'm really in a spot I'm not liking here.

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I love my team so far. Which of those players was the thing that made you sad? Feeling? Actually, he went much, much earlier, so it wasn't like he almost got to me, but I have seen plenty of times him get to this spot and be drafted in a different order. It was Kyler. Kyler is my auto fifth round pick. Okay. If he's there in the fifth, I'm taking him. I did that the last mock, but he went in the 4-09, which is honestly a better spot for him.

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Now I'm here and I can go any direction. I'm between deciding on whether or not I'm willing to pull the trigger on T.J. Hawkinson here. Because T.J. Hawkinson, this is his ADP. Right now. What draft pick is this? It's the 508. Right. But what pick? Is this the 55? I think this might be the 55. Who cares? Who cares? If the math doesn't check out, it was on.

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Jason Moore. Well, at the very least, that is his ADP, him being T.J. Hawkinson. I'm going to gamble. And I think I'm going to lose. You already have your tight end, but there's three other teams that don't have their tight end. Team 11 does not have a tight end, or does have their tight end. I'm sorry. They have Travis Kelsey. So there are two teams, so essentially four picks between you and your next one that could take T.J. Hawkinson away from you. Yeah. I still have a lot of belief. I know he was.

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very, very inconsistent. But when you have a hundred receptions, a lot of yards, you play for a great quarterback, you have a great rapport, you just got paid a bag. I'm still all about Tyler Lockett this season. I'm not going to worry too much about his poor stretch of games where he didn't score because consistency is an inconsistent metric. So I will...

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take Tyler Lockett to go with Julio and Alan Robinson here and see if Hawkinson makes it back breaking news. He did not. You gambled and you lost. You get nothing. Well, I got Tyler Lockett. Honestly, I assumed I would lose Hawkinson there. I'm still, even though I'm bullish on Hawkinson, I think he's going to be the next guy to kind of level up and be a consistent producer. I don't think he's going to be.

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a Kelsey, even I'm Andrews of two years ago. But I think he's going to be a consistent producer at the position. I'm just not willing to spend a fifth on him. Okay. After you took Tyler Lockett Cooper Cup and then Team 10 breaks your heart with T.J. Hawkinson, Dak Prescott, off the board. That puts me back on the clock for my turn picks. I'm sitting with Aaron Jones, Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper, and Mark Andrews. So I only have the one running back.

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The running backs on the board would be Chase Edmonds, Melvin Gordon, James Robinson, Rahim Mostert. I mean, nothing. I don't mind Chase Edmonds right here, I suppose, to take the shot. But over at the wide receiver position, Deontay Johnson, Jamar Chase, Odell Beckham, Cortland Sutton, Chase, Claypool. This is a tough one here for me. I believe I am locked into at least one of the Steelers' wide receivers.

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I have Diggs. I have Amari Cooper. That is some really high target volume for those two guys. Do I just want to keep adding on the volume or go with the upside pick of Chase Claypool that perhaps he breaks out? For the sake of brevity, I'm just going to go with Deontay Johnson. I'm going to lock that in. So I have my three wide receivers here. And running backs, like I said, it is getting very scarce. I mean, there was Jason a little bit of hype.

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