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A host says he does not care about the ‘day three farts,’ is immediately reminded that the prospects are reaching lifelong dreams, and retreats by claiming the players call themselves that before apologizing.
Ultimate Draft Week offers a Listener League entry, a signed Ja’Marr Chase mini helmet, and a signed Baker Mayfield jersey. The Baker prize triggers a laser request, but Jason’s buttons fail until he finds the cue in his menus; the published edit flashes a small sunglasses-face/6 overlay for roughly two seconds.
The hosts invite YouTube viewers to monitor Jason’s newfound range of T-shirt hues beyond black. They remember a tan shirt as nearly topless or skin-colored, while Jason says he thought only black shirts were allowed; direct video shows him safely in dark green today.
Kyle, an Atlanta Falcons fan, flew to Arizona to watch the prior draft and experienced the room’s shared shame and laughter when Atlanta selected Michael Penix in the top ten immediately after giving Kirk Cousins a major contract. A year later, the choice looks more defensible than the Cousins signing.
The desk remembers Jason’s extreme Josh Rosen excitement and jokes that he can wear his Max Hall jersey, then Mike recalls Arizona drafting combine marvel David Johnson in round three as the moment a show meme was born and a brief RB1 era began.
Jason’s main dynasty roster contains fading assets including ETN, Mark Andrews, Chris Olave, Breece Hall, and Jaylen Waddle. The desk offers to take ETN only if Jason adds a third, imagines his value evaporating if Jacksonville drafts Ashton Jeanty, and compares the roster with a frightening Wizard of Oz machine whose players pass around the fatal wrong Indiana Jones cup.
An accidental ‘Bach Bowers’ pronunciation leads the desk to invent a nickname made from a chicken sound: ‘Bok, Bok, Bok, Bowers.’ They reject cowardice as the explanation and insist the call is simply great.
Asked what happens if Cam Skattebo joins the Giants, Mike declares the incumbent dead and imagines nothing but dust and bodies in Skattebo’s wake. The desk urges the outcome into existence and says the beast should keep dominating for his entire life against all odds.
Bhayshul Tuten’s name immediately becomes ‘Tootin.’ The hosts predict good future work, deny responsibility for the opportunity, and say they merely have to play the cards they were dealt; one host’s lip curls as though the hand contains aces.
Andy says Rome Odunze is entering his My Guy slate against his will, only to learn that Jason has had Rome written on the office whiteboard for weeks. The hosts declare the board to be the rules, send Jeremy as an offscreen spy, promise a photo that never appears, and imagine a future mailbag asking whether stealing Rome ended Andy and Jason’s friendship.
A host accidentally says the Chargers would never allow Justin Herbert to become a top-three tight end. After being corrected to quarterback, he stands by the literal tight-end claim with complete confidence.
Complete video review shows the regular desk throughout: Mike at left in a cream shirt and black cap, Jason at center in a dark green shirt, black cap, and glasses, and Andy at right in a black shirt without a cap. A Fantasy Faceoff helmet blocks the center foreground. The opening’s generic black-bear shot and produced five-human WITH THE DUCERS card are neither live appearances nor Jay Griz; no cardboard bear, fourth host, Jay image, theme, or cue appears. Ultimate Draft Week offers a Listener League entry, signed Ja’Marr Chase mini helmet, and signed Baker Mayfield jersey. Asked for the laser, Jason searches his menus before the edit flashes a small lower-right sunglasses-face/6 graphic whose person is never identified. The desk also teases Jason’s new T-shirt range beyond black and remembers a prior tan, nearly skin-colored shirt; he wears dark green today. Favorite draft memories become show history: Falcons fan Kyle shared the room’s shock and laughter when Atlanta drafted Michael Penix after signing Kirk Cousins, Jason is reminded of his Josh Rosen excitement and Max Hall jersey, and Mike calls David Johnson’s third-round selection the birth of a show meme and short-lived fantasy peak. Jason’s main dynasty roster becomes a Wizard of Oz machine run by a hapless operator whose players pass around the wrong Indiana Jones cup; an ETN-plus-third-for-nothing mock offer and possible ETN value evaporation establish the stakes. The ADP segment supplies three bits: accidental ‘Bach Bowers’ becomes ‘Bok, Bok, Bok, Bowers’; Mike imagines Cam Skattebo leaving dust and bodies in his wake; and Bhayshul Tuten becomes ‘Tootin,’ a name-card the hosts must play. The headline begins when Andy admits Rome Odunze could become his My Guy against his will. Jason says Rome is already on the office whiteboard, the desk declares the board to be the rules, and Jeremy is dispatched as a spy to return with a photograph. A second-by-second check from 37:50 through 44:20 confirms that the edit never shows the board, Jeremy, or a photo: the dispute stays on the three-host desk. Andy says Rome sucks, and a fake future question asks whether stealing Rome ended Andy and Jason’s friendship. The hosts recall that Andy had floated Rome while Jason floated DJ Moore, but Jason says Rome has been written behind Andy for weeks. A late Justin Herbert projection accidentally says the Chargers would never let him become a top-three tight end; after the quarterback correction, the speaker stands by the safer statement.
to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Yes, indeed. Yes, yes. Draft week has arrived. Yes. You know it? Because Jason's got a little extra bob in the head bob. Oh, it's a good week to be alive. Draft week is here. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, the fantasy footballer is back for Tuesday, April 22nd. The draft is two days away. We're going to do a little ADP price check on the show today. Talk through some news, maybe get some thoughts from you guys on some of your favorite draft moments in the past. But soon all will be revealed on Thursday. We will know. Well, I mean, 32 will be. We will know the big names. Yes. Most everything. Yeah, yeah. No.
You could have just said by the end of the weekend, we will know. By the end of the weekends, we'll know everything. Really locked in on the one round. Well, you know. I'd say by the weekend. I don't care about them day three farts, you know? That's not true. You are talking about the young men reaching their life long dream. Right. They call themselves the day three farts. The day three farts. Goodness. You know, isn't Bucky, Bucky Irving a needs to be first? Yes, he was. I mean, it was a heck of a. There's a, it was, it was a joke. I'm just joking. I'm joking. Draft week is here, which means some exciting stuff going on this week. We have a live stream on Friday after the first round, before the second round, ballerslive.com. We will be taking your questions, reacting to what happened in round one.
and all of our thoughts, you'll get that initial overview of our reaction to round one of the NFL draft on Friday. That'll be 6 p.m. Eastern, one hour before round two starts up, and then next week we'll go through everything, all of our breakdown and analysis, which will also mean a huge update to the Dynasty Pass because it'll be our post-draft update. Our league will be doing its keeper lottery in selections for our... you know, for the players after we get the lay of the land in the draft. This is our ultimate draft week giveaway week as well. So we've got a big time giveaway going on. A listener league entry will be given away a chance to come and play with the three of us in our infamous listener league. A Jamar Chase signed mini helmet. He's pretty good. Yes. And a Baker Mayfield.
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dare I say, nearly topless colored. Skin color, yeah. You know, mistakes have been made. This is all new to me. Now, you don't even know what these colors existed. I thought only black shirts were allowed. All right. So quick question of the day. What is your favorite NFL draft memory? It can be fantasy wise. You could just be whatever. Maybe it's recency bias. I don't know. It was really fun. But it, I mean, it's, it was an incredible moment last year when Kyle, the Atlanta Falcons fan, flew to Arizona to watch the draft with us and watch his team draft Michael Pinnock's with a top 10 selection after having just giving Kirk Cousins that contract and just being there for the shared.
moment of shame and laughter. It was so much fun. It was so wild, man. And full circle now where it's like, yeah, that's probably, that was probably the right thing to do. Well, it, it, it, yeah, the full circle is you were, you were going to find out. You were like, is the signing of Kirk Cousins bad or is the drafting of Panics is bad? Because they both can't be good things. In my opinion. And the signing of her cousins looks like an absolute disaster. If you're Nico Harrison of the Dallas Mavericks, you are hoping that your trade of Luca Donge somehow feels slightly more like the Michael Pinnock's selection does now a year from now. But it won't. To me, that was the highlight of recent draft history. It was glorious. I do remember Jason being extremely excited for Josh Rosen at one point in time. Oh, yeah.
That was great. That memory did come to mind. Did it? Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a jersey? Uh, I don't, I don't think I ever got a jersey. Maybe you just wear your Max Hall jersey. Maybe. All right, Mike, do you have one? I mean, sticking with Arizona, years and years and years ago, there was a man who, I don't think any of us had ever heard of. And then he goes to the combine and keeps running these challenges. And you're like, holy crap. Did you see this guy's vert? Did you see this guy's broad jump? You see his 40 at that size? It was unbelievable. And then the Arizona Cardinals drafted David Johnson in the third round. And the meme was born. He was a hit. I mean, the career was short. But it was definitely a absolute fire pick for a couple of years there. And it was a great time for the show. Great time for everyone who had that RB one season.
With David Johnson. It's funny because players can be so good even in a short period of time where they dominate more of the fantasy football lore than they even did in the National Football League. And David Johnson was one of those players. Whenever you enter that number one overall pick category for any period of time, it's memorialized in fantasy football players' minds for sure. So that's a good one. All right, let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. All right, the Jets are picking up the fifth year option on wide receiver Garrett Wilson. Yep. He should get signed too. There was more talk. I actually didn't see this update. The athletics reporting that there has, quote, certainly been dialogue with other teams about Mark Andrews. Andy, you had tweeted out kind of the season by season.
The last four years. It was actually mind-blowing to me. Yeah, the last four seasons of Mark Andrews and his receptions per game dropping from 6.3 to 4.9 to 4.5 to 3.2. And his yards per game, you know, back in 2021, 80 yards per game, then down to 56, down to 54, down to 39. Last year, 3.2 receptions a game for 39 yards. He had 11 touchdowns, which really, you know, for fantasy bailed him out. But it's, uh, it's been a trajectory. Yeah, I mean, this is your moment. If you, if you want value for Mark Andrews and you don't want to go on the ride again in Dynasty, I think you, I think he has value right now. It's still a big name and it's coming off of a season with a good fantasy finish. So if you, if you pay attention to the receptions in the yards per game, you know the trajectory. But the touchdowns give you a moment here.
And it might be literally right this moment because he could get traded at the draft. And there's nowhere, in my opinion, that Mark Andrews goes in his better. Oh, I can see an upgraded path for him. If he were to go to, say, the Chargers and go with Justin Herbert, I think that would be a wonderful situation for him. Yeah, I mean, it's coming to the end. It'll just be, do we get another year or two of something? relevant from him. What do we got about Kirk Cousins? What are we hearing about the Kirk Cousins rumors, Mike? Chefty's out there dropping some bombs for us because the draft's coming up and so we're getting that hot tea right now. As right now, the Falcons are aiming for the other team that wherever Kirk gets traded to, for them to take on the remainder of Kirk Cousins guarantees. That has been the
Like that's the biggest part of the deal for me. It's not really the draft compensation. It's will a team take on all the money for a player that has been benched? The Falcons are in a really tough situation of they've already said he's our backup quarterback. Michael Pennix will be the starter for the beginning of the season, which I mean like that has its pluses and minuses too. You get to the entire offseason. You don't have to do a quarterback battle. You just go into all camps and Pennix gets all the reps. But now all teams know that this is your backup. And you're paying that backup so, so much money. He's just killing your cap. But is someone willing to take on last year's Kirk with that amount of money? I think there's very, very few teams that would be willing to even trade for him. And then add in the money bit, it's pretty tough. You still think he's going to the Browns, Andy? Yeah. And you think it's already done.
I think he's going to the Browns. All right. I think he's going to play for the Browns. And I think they'll have Travis Hunter as another weapon in that offense. I can agree with that part. And who knows, maybe Nick Chubb even comes back to town. I would not be surprised if Chubb came back on like a one-year deal. There is some rumors today about Brock Purdy and then making progress towards a deal. He doesn't have one yet. There were rumors about the... Giants potentially trading up for Jackson Dart in the first round someplace. Jackson Dart is going to be so is going to be so entertaining to watch what happens. The game of chicken of like once the saints are on the clock is going to be it's going to be going to feel real tense. And then I want to mention this one because I think it's a more interesting discussion because the whole universe has been just saying Ashton Genty's name.
alongside the Raiders. And I've been feeling like maybe the Raiders are not as glued in on Gentie as some people think. And they're teasing that pick for a trade up from someone behind them. But then Daniel Jeremiah, who's outstanding from NFL.com, he came out and here's the quote about Ashen Genty. It feels like Jacksonville to me. Which Jacksonville's at five, right? And so, you know, he said it would be a statement pick for Jacksonville. Jags are not committed to E.T. and long term in his mind. What about Tate Biggs me? And they need to get Trevor Lawrence up and running to justify that extension. The team, you know, that's kind of like the Falcons going pits in the first, you know, six picks of the draft to me. It's a very loud, offensive selection that has high risk, high reward. Yeah, I, I.
I hope that clearer heads prevail because I think that like even the Raiders, which is like if you go to, you know, mock draft database, it's like 50% of mocks coming in right now. It's Ashton Genty to the Raiders. And you're like, look what, look what Sequin did for the Eagles. Look what Henry did for the Baltimore Ravens. Those were Super Bowl teams. Those were Super Bowl contending teams. Like my example would be, look what the Giants did with Saquan Barkley. Right. They spent the number two overall pick on this guy who was awesome. But a running back by himself can't change the destiny of your team. This is how I view football. No, I think it's an interesting. He didn't turn Daniel Jones into a better weapon because you're not. But they didn't screw that pickup either. No, no, no. Which it's easy to do. I mean, it's easy to screw your first. I mean, Daniel Jones was a screwed up first round pick. Yes. If you have the choice to pick, like Genti can't fail at the NFL level. I would agree with that. And so.
while team philosophy wise, I get that. It makes sense. I mean, another example would be like, I mean, Zeke, Zeke was a foundational pick for Dallas and it changed the trajectory of their team. But they had the offensive line was already ready for Zeke. Yeah, no, look, you're not screwing the pickup with Genty. That's all I'm saying. You can't screw it up. In terms of the player. performing for your team. I tend to agree with that. You do screw up. Jackson Dart? I like him. Could be a complete failure of a pick. But it's like- Shoulder? Same thing. Like salary-wise, if Genty goes, if he goes five or six, he's already one of the highest paid running backs in the league. So that's, wow, I'm like, I agree with you. I don't think he can fail. He still is a player who hasn't taken a snap in the NFL and you're making him one of the highest paid.
at the running back position? It's also hard to invest in a running back that high. When you have already invested in a first round running back, you've got Travis ETN. That wasn't this crew, though. Sure, but I'm just saying they have ETN and they've got Tank Bigsby. You know, you look at the Raiders. It's like, I mean, they really need. Now, Jason, don't you have a dynasty team that has ETN and Mark Andrews on it? I do. Oh, no. You might want to send those guys out on a few offers. Quickly. Yeah. Dude, if you give me your third, I will take ETN. Oh, that is, I'm going to consider this. Wait, so I'll have to drop somebody off of my team. Trade offer here. You'd send E.N. in a third. Mike, you would send nothing. He would have to drop. Yeah. But you would have to take the hit of dropping one of your bench. Oh, I'll tell you who I'm going to drop and I'll send a back. Okay. Perfect. Interesting, intriguing offer. Probably you could do better. I think so. I'm going to hold off until after the draft because I don't think I'm getting anything for him now.
And I'm hoping he does gentie to the Jags. If pick five, it'll be a new all time draft moment just watching Jason, they were evaporating ETN. You got to trade ETN then. You got, you better have something lined up to get you just anything back. What is he? Remind me of ETN's contract situation. Well, he was he a fifth year option last year or they, he's in the final year of his deal now. Yeah, I mean, it's starting to make sense, man. Talk about identity change for that team. I think that the number one thing you could, the number one thing you could say the last two years is actually that they didn't have a working running game. If they were to take Gentie at five, which right now, the betting odds, he is tied with, you know, as the favorite, I don't know that we've ever seen someone's fantasy value evaporate.
more drastically and quickly than Travis E.T. He was supposed to be, he was a blue chip, foundational dynasty. He was a RB3 and fantasy. Two years ago, the running back three. Not just the prospect. He delivered an RB3 season. Right. Yeah, not his draft. He wasn't drafted as the RB3. He finished as the RB3. And then it's like never relevant again. He's young on his rookie contract. Yeah, I was saying it's not Philip Lindsay. It's not Steve Slayden. Yeah, it's a first round pick. And he didn't just miss half the season. Which I, look, I still think, last year it's hard to argue that he looked good. But the year he finished RB3, that was elite electric stuff that he had. So yeah, to see somebody go, he would be worth negative. Oh, yeah. I mean, I genuinely don't have a running back. He's 26.
That's crazy. So Gen. Why don't you? Why don't you just not on back to Vegas? Yeah. Let's not go Duval. All right. We'll take a break and we'll jump into an ADP price check segment. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. All right. This should be fun. We are going to bring them some names. We are going to guess their current ADP, which is average draft position on Sleeper. And just, you know. When you guess where players are going, it's a way of revealing what you think about those players. And so we'll each get a different gauge of what one another thing, starting with Brock Bowers. Brock. Brock. Brock. Brock. How did this happen? I accidentally said Bach Bowers instead of Brock Bowers. It was more rhetorical. What I'm saying on this show.
The greatness that is Brock Bowers. It's the juxtaposition. It's like, yeah. What's his nickname? Well, it's a chicken sound. You say his name like a chicken says. Was he a coward? No, no, it's great. It's awesome. Bok, Bok, Bok, Bauer's. Um, that's the, so I feel like that's better. Bok, Bok, Bok, it's Brock. Um, all right, guess the ADP of Brock Bauer's embarrassing. Who wants to start? He was the tight-in-one. Oh, I guess the ADP? Tied in one last year, 112 receptions. He feels really easy. He's got to be early second round. I would have said 202. I'll go 203. Mike? Oof. Don't you do me dirty, Mike? I put myself in a real sandwichable position. 201 was what first popped into my head, so I'll stick with you. You're the meat sandwich. If he had.
I've been called worse. By the way, it's 204. So if Mike had just done what you told him not to do, you would have nailed it. So is he worth that pick? I mean, yeah. Yeah, I think so too. Next player. I mean, Brock Bowers last year, no quarterback, 153 targets, dominated as a rookie. He's 22. I mean, man. Where did he go in the drafts last year? Eighth round? Something like that. Boy, I wish it had been me. I wish I had made that pick. Yeah, I mean, all of his stats are incredible. And he has room to go north from a touchdown perspective. So I talked about recently the fact that, like, too much has been made about, well, he didn't have a quarterback that could, you know, throw him an accurate ball. But he did. You know, he caught, you know, 72% of his passes. That's a great completion percentage. The thing that...
the quarterback he had couldn't do is in the shortened field and the red zone is throw touchdowns. And six total targets inside the 10. Yeah. And so that's what I expect to be able to go north while retaining, you know, 130 plus targets at a good, you know, catch rate breaking tackles, doing amazing things. So is he worth it? Yeah. I think him and Trey McBride in the second round, I will have a hard time passing. those two up. Let me give you your opportunity cost, because these are the players going, like, pretty close to right after Bowers. We're talking about the Sleeper ADP. So Tyree Kill, I think for Jason, that's an easy. Brock Bowers. J.S.N. Buck? Oh. How many box? Trey McBride, which, are you Bauer? I actually, I haven't statted them out yet, but I presume I'll be Trey McBride ahead of.
Brock Bowers, but they are in the exact same tier to me. And then the last one that you would even think about would be Ladd or T. Higgins. Yeah. That's Brock Bowers. I think Brock Bowers is going to be pretty cemented where he is and he'll be drafted on a lot of my teams. It is a very safe selection. You know, when you talk about players that have gone around the 204 in recent years. There's been a lot of the Drake London's and the Garrett Wilson's and the players that you're hoping have a big season. And it's like, or you take the guy that just machine-like outperforms your opposing teams tight end every week. To look at his stats a little bit deeper, his targets per route run, same as Trey McBride. His target share overall is the same as Nico Collins. His first read target share is the same as Mike Evans. His first down per route run is the same as Justin's.
Justin Jefferson and his yak was the same as Cady Lamb. And this is a, this was a tight end on a bad, bad team. First time playing at the NFL level. He is, he, he's different. Interesting name being brought up here. Our second ADP price check, maybe the fact that I even said it that way reveals a lot about the view of this player right now. Tyrone Tracy of the Giants. I mean, if you watched him play, he had. A ton of impressive plays. He was a top 25 wide out as a rookie. Running back. Yep. He did catch 38 passes. But yes, he's a running back. The first four weeks, he barely even got any work. So this was a pretty impressive run for Tyrone Tracy. And yet it feels like, I don't know. To me, it feels like no one's excited about it. Because you're all waiting. You're waiting for the shoe. Right. For the draft. Like if we get out of the draft, it.
I think people will look at that Tracy a lot different, but as of right now, the Giants have had, like the information we have today, Giants have had four top 30 visits at the running back position, Judkins, Caleb Johnson, Scadaboo, and Ollie Gordon. And then we talked about this a little bit on the Dynasty podcast, but Kyle, the Borgogans, did some deep diving, and he found that when teams use three or more, top 30 visits on a running back. which the Giants have done, you see a running back drafted by that team in the first three rounds, 64% of the time. And if you go to the fourth round, now you're talking 80%. So this team is, like they, just based on history, they will be drafting a running back. And the historical good bet to make would be in the first three rounds. Yeah. And you look at the guys they're bringing in Judkins and Scatterwood. They're looking at more like a first, second down, a big bodied banger.
Tyrone Tracy was very utilized in the receiving game. So I think they view him as, you know, that change of pace. So, yeah, I mean, where are we, where are we thinking he is ADP-wise right now? I would guess, I would guess, I don't want to go first. No, you got to go first because you start. 803. I think he's above that. I think. I think he's early seventh round. I'll go 701. And you or Andy were one. 803. Oh, 7.02. Oh, got him. I'll get you this time. Let's see. RB 21 right now, 608. Oh, you went on the wrong side again, Mike. Oh, I went again. I was going to guess way later. It was funny. I almost went ninth round, but I'm thinking about where I think I'll end up more than where he would be today.
Because right now, I mean, look, 64% chance. That's a little bit above 50-50 that they go in and bring somebody in that would make a huge impact. He still has the potential to be very valuable on the team. And, you know, a starting running back is probably not going outside the top six rounds until a compliment comes in there. Now, if Scataboo ends up as a giant, how are you going to view Tracy? I mean, it's complimentary third down back. Dead. Oh, that's one way. Wherever Scataboo goes. Nothing but a cloud of dust and just bodies left in his wake. That's right. That's right, Mike. We got to make this thing happen. That dude's a beast. You're saying you want Scataboo to dominate at the NFL level. That is important to you. I think we just want him to keep doing what he's done his entire life. His entire life from high school, college, just dominate as a running back. Against all odds. Yeah.
He, by the way, Devin Singletary is still on the roster. Week. That's, uh, sure. That poor guy. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. Next name on the list. Chris Olavi. Chris Olavi, uh, going into year four finishes in his career, 25 as a rookie. 19 as a sophomore. 93 last year missing half the season. Concussion issues. quarterback that might not want to play for the team. The concussion issues will always be hanging over. Always. Always. Especially if Derek Carr is the quarterback. For the couple years. Yet when he plays, he's a very talented contributor. He's entering kind of a Terry McLaurin, DJ Moore stage of his career where you know how good he is, but he never delivers for fantasy.
Yeah, he never delivers on the promise. I mean, he has on a per game basis been very, very good. He's an A in our consistency score. Yeah. So he's, you know, he's obviously very, very good. He just, it's a risk. He's a risky player with a lot of upside that's still young. ADP-wise, I'll let you guess first this time, Jay. Okay. So where do you think he's going right now? I think he's. He can't drop too far. He's too good to drop too far, but obviously he's not going to go in the top 10 wide receivers, probably not even the top 15. So I'm going to say he's fourth round, smack dab, middle. 406. I'm going to go 305. I was going to go 308. Okay. So there you go. He is going at 410. What? I won again. What? 410. 410. Wide receiver 24. I, so I.