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A host says he does not care about the ‘day three farts,’ is immediately reminded that the prospects are reaching lifelong dreams, and retreats by claiming the players call themselves that before apologizing.
Ultimate Draft Week offers a Listener League entry, a signed Ja’Marr Chase mini helmet, and a signed Baker Mayfield jersey. The Baker prize triggers a laser request, but Jason’s buttons fail until he finds the cue in his menus; the published edit flashes a small sunglasses-face/6 overlay for roughly two seconds.
The hosts invite YouTube viewers to monitor Jason’s newfound range of T-shirt hues beyond black. They remember a tan shirt as nearly topless or skin-colored, while Jason says he thought only black shirts were allowed; direct video shows him safely in dark green today.
Kyle, an Atlanta Falcons fan, flew to Arizona to watch the prior draft and experienced the room’s shared shame and laughter when Atlanta selected Michael Penix in the top ten immediately after giving Kirk Cousins a major contract. A year later, the choice looks more defensible than the Cousins signing.
The desk remembers Jason’s extreme Josh Rosen excitement and jokes that he can wear his Max Hall jersey, then Mike recalls Arizona drafting combine marvel David Johnson in round three as the moment a show meme was born and a brief RB1 era began.
Jason’s main dynasty roster contains fading assets including ETN, Mark Andrews, Chris Olave, Breece Hall, and Jaylen Waddle. The desk offers to take ETN only if Jason adds a third, imagines his value evaporating if Jacksonville drafts Ashton Jeanty, and compares the roster with a frightening Wizard of Oz machine whose players pass around the fatal wrong Indiana Jones cup.
An accidental ‘Bach Bowers’ pronunciation leads the desk to invent a nickname made from a chicken sound: ‘Bok, Bok, Bok, Bowers.’ They reject cowardice as the explanation and insist the call is simply great.
Asked what happens if Cam Skattebo joins the Giants, Mike declares the incumbent dead and imagines nothing but dust and bodies in Skattebo’s wake. The desk urges the outcome into existence and says the beast should keep dominating for his entire life against all odds.
Bhayshul Tuten’s name immediately becomes ‘Tootin.’ The hosts predict good future work, deny responsibility for the opportunity, and say they merely have to play the cards they were dealt; one host’s lip curls as though the hand contains aces.
Andy says Rome Odunze is entering his My Guy slate against his will, only to learn that Jason has had Rome written on the office whiteboard for weeks. The hosts declare the board to be the rules, send Jeremy as an offscreen spy, promise a photo that never appears, and imagine a future mailbag asking whether stealing Rome ended Andy and Jason’s friendship.
A host accidentally says the Chargers would never allow Justin Herbert to become a top-three tight end. After being corrected to quarterback, he stands by the literal tight-end claim with complete confidence.
Complete video review shows the regular desk throughout: Mike at left in a cream shirt and black cap, Jason at center in a dark green shirt, black cap, and glasses, and Andy at right in a black shirt without a cap. A Fantasy Faceoff helmet blocks the center foreground. The opening’s generic black-bear shot and produced five-human WITH THE DUCERS card are neither live appearances nor Jay Griz; no cardboard bear, fourth host, Jay image, theme, or cue appears. Ultimate Draft Week offers a Listener League entry, signed Ja’Marr Chase mini helmet, and signed Baker Mayfield jersey. Asked for the laser, Jason searches his menus before the edit flashes a small lower-right sunglasses-face/6 graphic whose person is never identified. The desk also teases Jason’s new T-shirt range beyond black and remembers a prior tan, nearly skin-colored shirt; he wears dark green today. Favorite draft memories become show history: Falcons fan Kyle shared the room’s shock and laughter when Atlanta drafted Michael Penix after signing Kirk Cousins, Jason is reminded of his Josh Rosen excitement and Max Hall jersey, and Mike calls David Johnson’s third-round selection the birth of a show meme and short-lived fantasy peak. Jason’s main dynasty roster becomes a Wizard of Oz machine run by a hapless operator whose players pass around the wrong Indiana Jones cup; an ETN-plus-third-for-nothing mock offer and possible ETN value evaporation establish the stakes. The ADP segment supplies three bits: accidental ‘Bach Bowers’ becomes ‘Bok, Bok, Bok, Bowers’; Mike imagines Cam Skattebo leaving dust and bodies in his wake; and Bhayshul Tuten becomes ‘Tootin,’ a name-card the hosts must play. The headline begins when Andy admits Rome Odunze could become his My Guy against his will. Jason says Rome is already on the office whiteboard, the desk declares the board to be the rules, and Jeremy is dispatched as a spy to return with a photograph. A second-by-second check from 37:50 through 44:20 confirms that the edit never shows the board, Jeremy, or a photo: the dispute stays on the three-host desk. Andy says Rome sucks, and a fake future question asks whether stealing Rome ended Andy and Jason’s friendship. The hosts recall that Andy had floated Rome while Jason floated DJ Moore, but Jason says Rome has been written behind Andy for weeks. A late Justin Herbert projection accidentally says the Chargers would never let him become a top-three tight end; after the quarterback correction, the speaker stands by the safer statement.
have been living the Chris Olave experience in our main. Are you talking about like when you traded like a pick and an Addison away? Yes. Thank you Mike. Picks and Addison for that's a plural S for Chris Olave. I invested heavily and it feels it feels really bad. You know, I- So wait, what's going on with your dynasty team, man? I know. E.N. Andrews-Lape? Don't forget Breece Hall. They are dying. Yeah. Your team is like, it's crazy because they pick up the wrong. No. Your team is the Wizard of Oz, man. It's this big scary machine, but in the back is just this lumbering Ophoo's operating. Yeah. It's not like we're naming worthless players here. We're naming the running back three from two years ago. Breece Hall, everyone wanted. Chris O'Lave unbelievable. Mark Andrews, a top five tight end. They pick up the wrong cup from Indiana Jones. They pass it to one another. This is the one for sure, guys.
I got to look at the rest of my roster, see who else is about. Good thing you train it for Jake London or Drake London because you had Waddle. Yes, I had Waddle. Oh, man. So the, so 410 is Crystal Lave going right around him just before him would be Rishi Rice and Cortland Sutton. I would take Olave all day at that, at that spot because it's it's far enough down the draft board with enough reward where basically you know that that's. If he's on the field, he's going to outperform that spot to me. Now, it doesn't mean he's going to be a top eight wide receiver, but he's outperforming wide receiver 24 if he's just healthy. Yes. So that's a, you know, fool me twice situation. You could end up with a player that, look, one concussion for Chris Oliva, and he's missing multiple weeks. This is not going to be a one week off thing. No, I mean, at this point, I fear that a concussion is a career ender.
Like, that's how it feels having him in Dynasty. So I didn't think he would be, you know, in the third round when there's that much risk at any moment. I want to see you offer Andrews, E.T, and Alavi in a single deal to somebody. Mike. Jamar Chase. Oh, no. No. Are you sure? All three. Three for one special. I'm very sure on that. Three for one. You're going to have to give them some picks and more players. Don't waste your time. Yeah, I mean. The quarterback situation is up in the air. I mean, you could have a rookie or a, I mean, the Derek Carr situation. I don't know if we've talked about it enough. It's been up on the show, but it is really weird what's going on of Derek Carr. I mean, news coming out that Derek Carr may have to miss the season from his shoulder injury. Then you got reports of, hey, this is Derek Carr. They're letting this out because they don't like what's going on with the Saints, even though the.
The Saints gave him just so much money. And so, yeah, like, what's going? If it's not a rookie, then who is it? I mean, like, who's on the roster right now? Kyle is just Spencer Rattler? Yeah, it's rat. Oh, and heinous. And heinous is. It's a great one to remember every time. I'll forget tomorrow and then I'll remember and I'll go, oh, yeah, it's heinous. next which isn't actually his real name by the way what's his real name painter oh yeah his name is not actually heinous oh they're heinous yeah all right brian robinson junior adp price check very very good team we talked at our running back ranking our early running back ranking show from last week how important being on a winning team is and i think
Last year at times you saw why it was so valuable for Brian Robinson in this offense. He ended up at RB 29, but he only played 14 games. There was a time at the beginning of the season where this was like a top running back. Yeah, I mean, he was scoring the first seven weeks. He was 15.4 fantasy points per game, looked great on a great offense. But I've seen, I don't know his ADP, but I've seen him in ADP lists. very late. I imagine he's a late, fourth, early fifth. Oh, no. He's got to be ahead of, I mean, you've got to put him ahead of Tyrone Tracy. No, no, no. He is, when I've been looking through ADP, just, you know, doing whatever stats docs we're making, he always sticks out to me as one of my favorite picks. It's like, I think he's in the eighth round. Well, I would imagine an underdog. It's like the least desirable player.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to go 801. I'm going to say 501. I will go, I'm going to put him in the seventh. So behind Tyrone Tracy? Yeah, I'll go 703. People don't want. What was Tracy? 610, was it? Yeah, so the Tracy was 6.08. So, yeah, I'll put him behind Tracy. And they, Washington has had three top 30 visits with the running back, or with running backs. And then. They also did a private workout with Bayshall-Tooten. So, like, that doesn't count into the top 30. That's going to be such a fun one. Tootin? Tootin. I mean, we're going to do some good work with that. We need. That's not on us. No. You know what I mean? We get dealt the cards. We got to play the cards. Yeah, his name is Tootin. I don't get to pick new cards. This is just what we do, man. And when we got. My lip curled when you said his name. We got, we got aces right out the gate boys with Tootin.
Brian Robinson's at 710. That's his ADP. I win again. Do you? What'd you go with? 801. Oh, you went over. Price is right. Oh, is that the rules? Yeah. Seven 10 is, you know, is this dead zone problems? Brian Robinson isn't going to get all the work. He is going to score some. He was a low-end RB1 through the first seven weeks and got a little banged up. I mean, if they don't have anybody, he's going up, right? He's very, very unsexy. I expect that they will draft someone, but I think it's important when I look at the lists of players he is around. He's usually around other nebulous players in backfields that you don't really know who's the guy, but they're on terrible teams. They can hand the ball to Debo. This is a team that's going to score a lot of points. I just feel like.
I think Brian Robinson, Austin Echler, and some Debo mixed in is enough at running back for this team to contribute their picks elsewhere. But, you know, if they draft somebody, you're going to be really doubtful of Brian Robinson's ability to contribute. Yes. And he's not generally the kind of guy that gives you humongous weeks. He is, he's so strange because you can have like week two was the giants where he had the, you know, a big 40-yard run. He was 17 for 133 yards on the ground. That's a 7.8 yards per carry. And you're just like, it's happening. It's happening for Brian Robinson. And then the next week, 16 carries for 33 yards against the Cincinnati Bengals. I've always liked Robinson just a little bit more than other people. And I have always liked it just a little bit less. Yeah. So, I mean, I just think he's one of those players that plays really hard, a scataboo, if you will. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa. Put Scataboard in Washington, see what happens. Yeah, well, cashed out Super Bowl right now. He's 26th in yards per carry, 4.27, 34th in missed tackle rate, 30th in rush success rate among 54 qualifying RBs. This is just, this is like you've got to run. He thumps. He's big. And if you take the default running back in Madden, that's, that feels like Brian Robinson. Yeah. That's, that's for me. And. I think that's like a poor man's nodgy. Yeah, okay. You know, sure. And Najee's not someone that is exciting a lot of people out there. No, Najee's a poor man's. Something else. He's a poor man's Lindale White. Oh, come now. All right. Let's take a break and we'll bring up a player. I don't know. I might be falling. I might be falling for him and it's probably stupid.
All right, ADP price check on early offseason darling, a player I think I might be falling for. Roma Dunesay of the Chicago Bears. Kenan Allen, no longer a part of this offensive dunezay last year, a rookie, Caleb, the offensive line troubles. We've got a new head coach. I think this is the year Roma Dunesay takes a huge leap forward. And I brought it up. I mean, there are years with Roma Dunesay. the talent where he's by far the number one ride receiver drafted. If he was in this draft, he's ahead of McMillan. He's a top 10 pick. So we'll see what year two brings. Year one, 54 for 734 and 3. That's not that bad. No, it's not. That's not that bad, especially when 100 plus targets went to Keenan Allen and Caleb Williams forgot how to play football 50% of the time. I think Roma Dunes is a
Probably going to be a really good pick this year because I don't think people are drafting him assuming success. They're drafting him hoping for success. Which is a sweet spot for fantasy taking a chance on certain players. Now where do you think he's going ADP-wise? I would guess fifth or sixth round is in the top of my head. Fifth round, I think. And if we, you know, we gamify everything because we're competitive and we just like winning. But I'm sitting here looking at how these. Players were picked out. And I'm like, okay, we've got, we've got a seventh rounder. We've got a fourth rounder. I haven't heard a fifth rounder yet. He's got to be in the fifth. I'm going to say 506. I was going to say that. Fine. I will go 502. 507. We are way off. Oh, no. We are way off right now. Is it going later? It is, but I don't know if I trust it. 701. I win again.
I mean, I don't think that that's... He won't go there. That's not where he's going to go in August. But it does show you maybe the apprehension right now. Yeah, I would say I'm skeptical. I mean, give me players in the fifth round at wide receiver. Not the ones going around him at 7-1, but players in the fifth round. Jalen Waddle. You got it. D.K. Metcalfe, Devante Smith. Yeah, all those guys are going ahead of Adunze. Chris Godwin. Probably ahead. Jordan Addison. Dude, Roman Dunes is going to end up on my guy. And it's not, it's against, it's going to be against my will. Hmm. Some players just, some players, not sure he can. Yeah, no. Have you seen the board? Have you seen the board, Andy? What did you do?
I don't know. I didn't write anything on the board. I'm just saying, I don't. There's marker up on the whiteboard. It's been there for, I saw it happen. It was a while ago. Yeah, it's been there for a while. What the heck are you talking about? I'm just saying, I don't think you're going to get it. I said it on the show. Yeah, but he said it with the board. The board is the rules. The board has always been the rules. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, it's not Mike. Go look at the board. Go look at the board. See what the board says.
We send a spy. Okay, Jeremy's going to go. Jeremy will go and he'll report back. All right. Anyways, talk more about my dude. I mean, because look, there's, there's no way that we could have gotten that on the board since you just said, I think he'll be a my guy. Right. That had to be a magic trick of, of incredible proportions. Unless Jeremy's writing it on the board right now. That's a fair. That's a fair guess. I think he's going to snap a picture and share it on the show. Okay. All right. Oh, come on, man. I hate this guy. Roma dudes they sucks. But like I am, I'm hesitant of Rome. All those names. Well, D.K. Metcalf is going to be tough. But all those guys I would have taken in front of Rome. And the rookie season wasn't bad. It's just, I don't know, you want to see more than wide receiver 46 finish on the year of the guys who,
Like we haven't, let's see, top 10 wide receivers with 100 plus targets as a rookie. Rome is the only one who is in the 40s and the lowest finish of guys with 100 targets. That would be Drake London at 30 before Rome did it this past year. I mean, it's a rough season. And then London broke out and was, was two years later. Sure, but this was not the next year though. You look at what the offensive line has, how that's changed here in Chicago, Ben Johnson coming in. the departure of other wide receivers. I think Rome. Yes, the externals should point to Roma Dunes A having a good season. I agree with that. He's going to be underdrafted. You know, it's funny because a lot of the picture. Yeah, a lot of comparisons were made rightly or wrongly between him and JSN as far as he went to a team where there were other wide receivers that he was behind. You know, JSN was drafted behind.
D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, whereas Rome came in and you had Keenan Allen and DJ Moore there already. And then you also had the Shane Waldron, you know, officer coordinator thing. But JSN this last year was a top 10 wide receiver. So, Rome is just, what a great pick. Just to be clear, he's not on your dynasty team, right? So we safe? Yes. Okay. Thank goodness. Uh, let's do some mail bag. Mailbag. First question coming in, whatever happened between you and Jason? Why aren't you guys friends anymore? Does it have to do with stealing Roma Dunez? This is a question from the future. Gene. Gene just asked. Gene just asked. Doc Brown. Yeah. Here's exactly what happened. I'm remembering, hold on. I'm remembering the discussion on the show. The discussion on the show.
a few weeks ago because i brought up that room rome might be climbing into my my guy and you said you know what that's funny because i've got dj more as my my guy maybe we'll have a competition about it yeah that is that is exactly what we had said way back then it has been written right behind you for weeks yeah okay okay uh real question from lex i'm so upset lex in maryville tennessee Oh, no, I don't need a Rome question. Oh, what is the, what is the question? Rom Adunzee or T. Higgins? In a PPR dynasty startup. Did you just put this in here? So this is. Rome. Super ironic. Rome or T. Higgins and dynasty. In a startup? I mean, this is just do you believe or not? T's going to be fine and good for your team. T is 26.2 years old. Yeah, I think I take Rome.
And Rome is about to be 23. Yeah. I mean, I love both of these guys dearly. If this was a redraft, I would flip them. But that age gap will. Really? Yeah. I'll go. I'll play T. I mean, T's had his own problems. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you are drafting to win today, T's the better pick. The age gap of 23 to 26 is. That doesn't scare me off of T. Higgins, who is now connected with Joe Burrow. The Rome hope is not just Rome. The Rome hope is also in Caleb. And I'm not saying I'm betting against those guys, but I know that Joe Burrough is a top five quarterback in the NFL. And the dude just produces tons of fantasy points for his wide receivers with, yes, and T has the injury problems, but that's where I would make my bet.
Ryan writes in off of Instagram, what's Drake May's outlook? Rushing upside makes him feel valuable. Yeah, but that team is going to be there, I don't know that they're going to turn it around anytime soon. Yeah. So it's good. It just like for Drake May, it would. 421 yards rushing and two touchdowns last year in 13 games. That's pretty nice. Stefan Diggs coming to join the roster, maybe some stability in the passing game. Much better head coach. We have a tremendous amount of confidence in with Mike Vrable. What is his outlook? His outlook is he's a he's a contender for a surprise season at quarterback. Yeah, that's fair. We're bringing his name up more often than you'd expect on the streaming.
prediction show on Thursday. And, you know, to me, I think that's really possible. Yeah, I would expect him to finish somewhere around quarterback 15. The fact that he can run the ball and is really secure in his position. Let me guess. This is my guy for you. Do you wish he was? Because you could talk me into it. I, at a minimum, I'm going to take all that credit. What about Justin Herbert? Mike Benjamino writes in, how do we feel about Herbert this year? I'd like to hear where Jason is. My guy for Jason. Yeah. So what we saw last year with Justin Herbert was quarterback 13 with the first five games being real slow. Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up. There was a shift. You know, this was the first time that, you know, G. Roe and hard dog.
You come to the Chargers. They want to establish the run. You know, they start out and you look at the attempts, just the passing attempts, how much they let Justin Herbert throw the ball at the beginning of the year. 26 times, 20 times, 18 times, 27. That's like, that is not who Justin Herbert has been in his career. And they really unleashed him, completely said, look, this is our leader. We're going to pass more. Do you know what that unleashing worked out to, though? On a, I'm going weeks eight through 18, which eight was his first top 12 finish of the, the season where he put up 24 points. So, I mean, 24 points and you're the QB12 is like, we had a big week. But from that, from those weeks, it's 4,200 yards and 26 touchdowns. Like, that's not special. You cannot do special with the current, with the current group. Like,
receiving you need them to draft someone they have to add somebody more meaningful lad mcconkey by himself with you know quinton johnston yeah you have there has to be a like maybe you add one of the big tight ends in the draft oh i mean that's i think that is who they're hoping if if loveland or tyler warren can fall to them i i think they're and if they're the other hard part is if their defense plays the way that they want it to they will not throw as much as you want them to that's true they just will if they can win
Not throwing it as much, they will. Yeah, so from a fantasy perspective, I don't think that this is a team that would ever let Justin Herbert be a top three tight end. I do think, though, you know, you talk about. Quarterback. Yes. Or tight end. I still stand by my statement. 100%. I think you're allowed to go with that one. That's a good. I'm a good bet. I'm safe there. But, you know. Obviously, 4,300 passing yards is fine. 26 touchdowns would be very disappointing for fantasy. But the touchdowns are the thing where if he gets another weapon in the draft, I think the touchdowns can come up. I was just more talking about the passing attempts. The fact that after those, their by week, when they kind of turn it over to him, he was at 31 passing attempts a game. And that's enough for him to be.
pretty valuable. He also was running the ball a little bit more, which is great because he's got the skill set to do that. I mean, that time, you know, from week six on, he was on pace for almost 400 rushing yards. We have not seen Justin Herbert be anything special with in the touchdown percentage since his sophomore year. He has been. What did he throw his sophomore year? So sophomore year. So 40? That was 38. 38. So 5.7% of his attempts. Like that's a really good percentage. Keenan Mike Williams. The following three years, though, it's league average or below. By the way, we're wrapping this show up, but I did repost the picture of the three of us laughing at Kyle at the draft. For those that want to revisit that. Oh, good times. That was a great moment. Another reminder for you, it's ultimate draft week. We've got the ultimate draft week giveaway. Listener league entry up for grabs. A signed Jamar Chase mini helmet, a signed Baker, Mayfield, Jersey.
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