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Lessons-learned episode framed by Jason's allegedly secret Little Black Book, Papa Josh championship memories, and a last-chance Listener League promotion.
Or do I try and move on? You know, and I'm sure, like you said, in that article to get into all the details, I think the big headline that I took away from that from practical advice was that if you pay attention to those thresholds, you know whether or not your belief in a player is justified by the metrics or is going to be an uphill battle. Like, I think that's what fundamentally I would be saying, like, if this player does break out and have success from this point forward, they will be doing something that is unexpected. And that is saying something for the odds are not in their favor. Yeah. Historically speaking, it's so wild how you can look back in history and find these numbers. They're like they still, like they hold true. Yeah. The Skymore example is the example because we knew it. We talked about these metrics about how he was on the field as a rookie quite a bit. And he was.
really, really bad in that, you know, targets per route run and yards per route run. And so it's like it, you know, it, it never works out. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves in a thinking it might, but, but it might work for us. Let's get that quote. Yes. Let's get that quote back in here again. People always think it, but that's the time to get out because because there were people still thinking it's going to work. There's a Tobias Funk in your, in your league right now. who you can find one of these metrics and trade a wide receiver to them. Number two. All right. Thanks, Brooksie. This is the Brooksie special. I call it the preseason pretenders. Don't get fooled. I give every year we get fooled. It's so hard not to. It's so hard because we're so excited for football.
and we want to see things. And I went back. I wrecked my brain. We want to trust people, Jason. We want to trust people. And we want things to matter in the preseason. Well, it takes to go on. We watch these games. Follow the signs. We're looking for something that matters because, I mean, one, that's our job. Like when preseason rolls around, I'm watching these games, whether I want to watch them or not. And I'm trying to look for something tangible. And, and. I need to remember to stop. I need to stop. We do so much research through the offseason. We have so much historical data. We go through so many training camp reports that are in depth and long-winded and watch coaching press conferences. And we develop as solid of opinions as we can based on the information we have this last year.
I was so out on Damien Pierce. We had like three shows where I had a tangent on how that fourth round running back, you know. Yeah, we argued about it. Yeah, it just doesn't work. And then a new regime came in and brought in a Devon Singletary, a veteran running back who's a quality back. Oh, man. I was so out on. Sounds like you're talking about Kyron now, though. What if Devon Singletary goes to the Rams? Yeah, well, I've got two things to remember. Yeah, sorry, go on. So, yeah, I mean, and then all of a sudden in a preseason game, oh, oh baby, 89% of CJ Stroud snaps at preseason week two went to Damien Pierce. He's the dude. He's going to be the pass catcher, but he was not. And I got fooled in, Andy, thank you. I had the 12th pick in that draft because I was the reigning champ.
Yeah, I took Damien Pierce, thank you. But I was good. I was totally going to take Damien Pierce. I was so angry when you took Damien Pierce because of just a preseason game. And let me illustrate how the preseason. And the season before, but go on. The preseason game is not always indicative of future success. The Steelers offense was amazing in preseason. The Steelers first team offense had five touchdowns on five drives in preseason. They looked great. Jerome Bettis is talking about Kenny Pickett has the potential to be a superstar. But he was not a superstar. There are so many examples of this. The Giovante Williams injury that we knew the timeline. Like we knew it. We knew it couldn't work out. That one still hurts my feelings.
We knew it's just like medically impossible for him to be a rock star, but he got out in preseason. He played. And it was like, if you, now we do learn things from time to time for preseason. Who was the Orange Julius Thomas? Julius Thomas. Yeah, Julius Thomas. We saw that breakout coming because of preseason utilization, the tight end that year. But what it wasn't is it wasn't a change of strongly formed and informed decisions that we had made over the. entire off-season. If you have a really well-informed opinion that you believe in based on a lot of evidence, don't let... I'm talking to myself here. Self-meeting. Well, I did. Get me on my Zoom. Tank Biggsby was another one. Yeah. Because it was like, you know, you guys, you know, he had an opportunity in the preseason. Look pretty good. I really want to make sure... Which plays into your earlier one. That I do not...
over-emphasized preseason this year. That's the key because you do need to emphasize it. It's just a matter of like in fantasy football, I think our tendencies because we want stuff to talk about is that you go from witnessing something to making a pronouncement about it rather than just factoring it in. You could say, look, I'm not really a believer in Damien Pierce. He's looked pretty good this preseason, but fundamentally this is still my concern. But it's easy. It's so easy to go from. Well, we were wrong. He's got a, this coach loves him. But yeah, I mean, it is. I am going to de-emphasize. I am, because my natural human nature will automatically emphasize everything I see. It will just, there's just no way. I'm going to go in and try to de-emphasize it this year. Just stay in your head to say, you sure about that? Yeah. With whatever you see. Every, you sure about that? Yeah. Sure about that this way? Um.
Okay, and yeah, there are many examples of situations like that. The preseason, you get vanilla offenses, right? And defenses. You give vanilla defense. And you get vanilla defenses and you get different first team, second teams playing each other. I think in part the preseason has become less and less of an indicator over time as well. We produce the total amount of games. We don't play starters very much. We want to see different things from different players. And you go out there and you're not executing what, you know. a normal gameplay. Yeah, it used to be the third week of the preseason. You're seeing two teams really prepare for the season with their main personnel packages. Now, you've got to do heavy research even to see like, wait, okay, is this player going against a first team defense or is this, is that cornerback their backup? You know, it's like. Yep. No, it makes sense. It makes sense. All right, we've got one more because we always share one at the end here. Number one. Now, Jason, you titled this one. Yeah, well, I'm a big fan of the movie. Remember the Titans.
Yeah. And this is a show about remember it. Okay. I want you to remember the turds. Remember the turds. Remember the turds. In your league. So what are we saying? We're saying that I don't know what we're saying. Well, we don't. Yeah, I mean, we could have said it differently, I suppose. But this is the reminder that the things in your league that cause you to have a bad experience, which may include. a handful, a couple, single. There's all sorts of turds. But if there's some managers in your league that didn't add to the experience, if there were rules in your league, league formation, settings, week 17 or 18 championship games, sorry, week 18 title games, this is the time to kind of remember what went right, what went wrong.
make the adjustments, get them in place. Maybe there's leagues that you were saying, man, I wish our league was like that league over there. Or I wish that this one manager set their lineup ever. This is the time to make the adjustments to boot out those turds and to get things right for your league. Lace up them boots. Now, I usually go with the flush. Oh, we could have flushed the turts. But I see you guys. No, we don't. You're actually like drop kicking a poo? I'm drop kicking it straight from the source. Never, never hits the ground. It's incredible. That's that's quite the image. Yeah. Yeah, it's a backwards kick. Oh, it's like a mule kick. Yeah, it's a mule kick. Yeah, when I'm camping. What do you mean when you're camping? Well, I'm not doing it at home. I got a bidet.
Wait, you do this for yourself? This is a joke. No, I know. I know. He's like, stop. You're the one who said camping. Well, I mean, where else are you going to kick turds? I mean. You're doing good, Brooks? How are you doing? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm doing great. Did you learn anything from that last one? That was the most important one. That was definitely. Thank you. So anything you, uh, you needed to remember. I know I'm putting you on the spot. But is there anything from this past year that, uh, like do you remember? You guys, how old your dynasty team is? Yeah, start to remember that. Just in general, not playing afraid, which is a lot of your guys's points summarized. That, that's my problem. I was out of trades and I go to hit offer and I don't offer them. You know, I think that's, I think that's a good self-acknowledgement because I look at several people in our league and it's usually the people that are hard to trade with.
And I just watched I literally watch them hurt themselves like it's annoying I'm annoyed that they don't accept this trade or can't trade with anybody but like I I often think like I feel like you're like pre setting them up like no I genuinely have had the thought before of like dude you you are such a coward that you don't help your team with the trade with you No, no, no. With the whole thing. Specifically. All these cowards out there. Not taking my deals. Take my trade, coward. That's a good trade method. That's often worked. What are you? What are you a chicken? What are you? I get too attached to players, certain players. Do you know what that is? I have that problem too, Brooke. That's a really easy thing to do with these long off seasons where you fall in love with certain players. It's my beautiful fantasy baby.
It feels better when you find them. I made you. Feels better when you find them and then they have success and they're yours. Yeah. No question. So there you go. There's 10 things to remember for this past season. One more thing to remember. Uh-oh. Because you've got a day left to get in on the ultimate draft kit. Give away. We are giving away a listener league entry in a couple of days here. We will be giving away someone the first. person playing in the 2024 listener league will be known soon and that you can join the league and then not be a coward and trade with jason yeah don't be a coward trade me all your good players uh a brave man would give me that player but yeah get the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com there's so much resources it's a tool you're going to want this year anyways so get it now because it's the cheapest price and you're automatically entered in the giveaway i do want to let people know an update
for you which is our dynasty podcast which i think is um we're not even a year old are we with the dynasty show i believe we just we just recorded our 50th episode 50th episode it's been very um well received and i want to let you know it's now available on youtube with video whoa so we made the jump on episode 50 it seemed like 50 we're like all right we'll keep kyle and bets around and um that kind of kick You can watch Jason Headbang through the intro, and you can check that out. There is a separate YouTube channel for the Dynasty podcast, the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast. So please check that out if you are somebody that enjoys it on YouTube. That'll do it for today's episode. Thank you for joining us on the show. Next Tuesday, we will have free agent prediction. So that'll be your next episode unless you had to join thefoot.com right now. Goodbye.
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