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Trade Targets + TNF Preview, Backup Options | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1810

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Sweet Pickkins leads the Megalobowl

The show names Sweet Pickkins as the current 472-point Megalobowl leader, while an undefeated host with nearly 400 points discovers that he is only 1,020th overall.

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Jason's stereo sneeze defeats the edit

Jason mutes his own microphone to sneeze, but the microphones flanking him capture a stereo mix; Al wants it removed until the hosts decide car listeners should feel it hit them in the face.

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Orange Holloway, pioneering sausage maker

A genealogy tangent abruptly invents Orange Holloway, a pioneering Texas sausage maker, as the grandfather of a Chargers tight end.

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On-air trades become acceptance traps

The trade episode repeatedly spills into the League of Record: AJ Brown becomes part of an unlabeled negotiation, the hosts describe an acceptance trap, and a one-for-one Marvin Harrison offer is actually sent to Mike during the show.

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A new player becomes 'your Ken Walker'

During an impassioned Ashton Jeanty defense, another host says the advocate has found 'your Ken Walker,' and everyone immediately recognizes the comparison.

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Brooks supplies the live comparison

During the Jeanty argument, Brooks posts the exact point gap between Javonte Williams and Jeanty for the hosts to use on air.

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Episode notes

The hosts track the current Megalobowl leader, then reveal how hard the giant field is when an undefeated team still ranks 1,020th. Jason attempts to mute a sneeze, but the two neighboring microphones capture it in stereo; Al reportedly wants to remove it until the hosts decide listeners should feel it hit them in the face. The show invents pioneering Texas sausage maker Orange Holloway, conducts and threatens real League of Record trades on air, and uses 'your Ken Walker' as a recognizable comparison for a new player fixation.

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catch the ball, but low percentage odds that you're you're going to come down with it. In the mid20s through three weeks, he's only running a go route on 7% of of his routes, which to me at when you pair that with the quarterback play, that is good management. that is I need to make sure that my best player is around my quarterback and can get the ball and then he can make something happen. Uh so I'm I'm very in on Garrett Wilson being uh good for fantasy football remainder regardless of if it's Tyrod or Justin Fields. I think either of them will have

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the ability to get it done. He'll have some down weeks like he did week two. Absolutely. But the way that they are utilizing him, I think that it it is more here to stay than it has been in the past for Garrett Wilson. And on top of that, his schedule is quite juicy. You know, I warned about making, you know, concrete things about the schedule, but again, trends right now where it stands, I think the Jets are the fourth or fifth easiest wide receiver schedule moving forward. and then his fantasy playoffs as people like to talk about it at Jacksonville, at New

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Orleans, and then against the the New England Patriots. These those are three juicy matchups. Maybe Gonzalez will probably be back for New England by then. But that is looking pretty good along with the rest of his schedule, his utilization, his market share. Everything about Garrett Wilson right now screams that he is going to be a top 12 wide receiver at the end of the year. How do you feel about um Justin Fields in the long term? >> I think I like him. I I I think that it is it is worth going and getting him. That week two was terrible and you had

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the concussion, but there will be huge huge spike weeks. I still believe for Justin Fields. >> I I also made uh I meant to ask this during the AJ Brown conversation, but where are you guys now with the tush push three weeks into this season? Oh, I mean I've shared it in I think it was week two that it I want to defend it because I when I look at it as it's just a play we can't stop then you sound like a coward. But the amount that they are doing it and the amount that they are getting away with offside or or false

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starts is like you can't you can't keep doing this and you can't make the refs call a false start every single time you're doing the play. I think that's kind of the part of their shtick is they're like, "Okay, go ahead. Call it every single time." Like, "We'll we'll I dare you to try and do that." People will be so mad about the product that they just don't do it. So, it's >> I can't wait to watch it this week, man. >> It will be gone next. >> Do you see who uh Tampa Bay signed >> 490 pounds Desmond Watson

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>> to the practice squad, right? >> Yeah, baby. >> They're going with the uh the big goalie approach in the NHL. this like [laughter] why haven't we tried just putting a putting like a sumo in >> you have to have you have to have one giant dude on every roster to stop the what are we doing nobody thinks this is fun to watch >> I agree they I I tried to defend it and then they just abused it trade for candidate it was a trade for going into last week it's a trade for going into this week it's Ashton Genty

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of the Las Vegas Raiders and you know I I understand how frustrating it's been he's the running back 33. He was Jason Jason's two for two two consecutive years in predicting which rookie was way overdrafted. It was Marvin Harrison last year. It was Ashton Genty this year. That's been the case. And do I think it will be smooth for Genty? No, not really. You talk to Raiders fans, Raiders uh reporters, I don't know if they can stop talking about how bad this offensive line has been and then and then connecting it to >> the potential nepotism of Pete Carol's son who is coaching the offensive line

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and how he needs to go and how this offensive line is the major problem for the team. All that being said, it is hard to find true bellcow every downbacks and Ashton Genty's one of them. He scored one time on the year. It has been tough sledding, but the player Jason talked about it on Monday. I think >> Ashton Jiny is very, very good. Yes, >> he is making the very, very most of a really difficult situation. And I think you're going to see some improvement from both the offensive line, >> from his production, the touchdown numbers, and the kind of getting into

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the flow of this offense. It takes time for rookies. There's nobody to threaten him. Raheem Mostard hasn't seen a snap. Zamir [clears throat] White, we've been there, done that. Lowi, come on. Come on. I I don't like that. You know, I think he's the perfect buy low right this moment because we got a really pedestrian week from him again. But the attempts and opportunities, I think you're going to see the targets go back up at least four or five targets a week. And um you know, it's been hard. It's been frustrating, but I I am actively looking to pick up Ashton Genty because

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I think that the the schedule's going to lighten up a little bit and they're going to figure out how to utilize him better. >> You are smirking a lot. I don't really know. >> Because you have found your Ken Walker. >> Oh gosh. [laughter] >> Welcome in. >> Why is that my Ken Walker? >> Oh, I get it totally. >> Because it's the exact same argument that I've been making for Ken Walker. >> Ken Walker's argument is all based on injury. >> Yeah. If Ken Walker never got hurt, I would not be on the opposite side of Ken Walker. >> The the the inefficiencies.

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>> I get that part. Yes. >> Of and you're like, I'm telling you, stupid offensive line. >> The talent should overrule at some point in time. >> And there are plenty there's already plenty of carries of of seeing Genty where you're like, that is a special special player. >> He's been hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on 57% of his rushing attempts. >> Is that him or Walker? >> Probably both. [laughter] It's probably that's exactly the Walker story. >> Yes. >> Yeah. But but yes, it is. Look, it is >> because offensive line matters so so much. >> I mean, you look around the league right

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now. >> I would trade Javvante for for Ashton Jensen. >> You look at the teams that are wait, who would you trade? >> Javvante. >> Oh, sure. Yeah. >> And I think that that's what it might go through. I think it I think it might you might be a little one on that. >> I doubt most people that spent what they spent on Genty >> that are 0 and3 go on. >> No, I No, I get it. I'm not saying don't offer it. I I would offer that. I'm I'm saying I think more often than not it will get rejected. But if you go through

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>> I mean look that's not the only name. But I I think Genty is a target. I think this is the time. I think the sentiment, you know, the fact that any rookie struggling gets so much publicity now with fantasy football. We saw it with Hampton. We saw it with Henderson. We've seen it with Caleb Johnson. I mean, it's like we it's almost more exciting to to dump on these rookies when they're not performing. And Genty, to me, it it's just a matter of getting this team and this offense, which is a new quarterback, dealing with the injuries to to Bowers. I think they're going to

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figure it out. I do. >> Yeah. Brooks just posted Javvantee's at 51 total points and Genti's at 23. >> Yeah. If you're ever going to try it, >> Yeah. Now's the time. >> You never would have dreamed of such things before the season began. And I don't mind throwing in something with Javvante to make it go over the finish line. If you want to throw, you know, a whatever. You got Travis Hunter on your team with Javvante. >> Sure. >> Javante and Travis Hunter to try to get Jiny some sexy production and name. I don't know. >> That's my pick.

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>> No, it makes sense. Um my my trade for candidate is someone who's been great is going to cost you a lot. It's just like what Mike was saying. Sometimes you got to pay up. This is not a oh, he's been so bad you're going to get him for pennies on the dollar. No, >> people love Josh Jacobs. He's been okay. He's the running back 19. He's just been okay, but he's still been like two running backs have seen 40% of their team's total rush attempts and targets in all three games this year. It's Saquon and it's Jacobs. Four fantasy

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running backs have seen 20 plus opportunities in all three games this year. CMC, Saquon, Jonathan Taylor, and Jacobs. The workload is there. The thing is is his schedule so far like he he just is coming off of a game where they shockingly lost against the unbelievable defense of the Cleveland Browns who shut down Derrick Henry and and really shut down Josh Jacobs. 16 attempts for 30 yards. That was not Jacob's fault. That was the Cleveland Browns fault. They are awesome. They're about to go to Dallas and Josh Jacobs is going to be unbelievable. I I see Josh Jacobs personally as like a top five running

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back. I see him not as, you know, a a a an RB1. I don't know how his situation can be any better than it is. He has a great offensive line, a great offense, a passing game that is kind of struggling, but also a defense that is maybe the best in the league. This is the recipe we saw with Saquon last year. And and so I think that my my issue I have with Packers wide receivers is just I don't know how much they're going to be needed. >> Sure. >> Josh Jacobs is awesome. He looks good and he hasn't gone off this year yet.

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You know, he's been >> the big game. >> Yeah. He hasn't had a big game. He hasn't had a single game of Yeah. He hasn't had a top 10 performance. Hasn't scored 15 fantasy points on a week. >> Welcome to Dallas. >> And the rest of season Oh, Packers have the easiest rest of season schedule for running backs. their upcoming schedule. Dallas Bengals, Cardinals, Steelers, Carolina, like >> Okay, let me let me ask you. >> I've got some real quick. I've got some some things in mind. If I had someone who has been going off and is a stud, a

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Jonathan Taylor, >> I was just going to literally read you the names that are finished above Jacobs on the year. >> Jonathan Taylor, James Cook, uh I'm I'll throw Christian McAffrey, Bejon, Gibbs, those type of guys. I would be willing to go get Jonathan Taylor and another really good like I'm weak at wide receiver, let's say, and I've got Jonathan Taylor. Go see if if the Josh Jacobs team can give Josh Jacobs and and a and a really good wide receiver because I think you well I'm not like I think Jonathan Taylor might finish as the run, >> but you're not going that far down when

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you go to Josh Jacobs. Alternatively, there are guys like Devon Achan who scored more than him has looked great. Like I would much rather have Jonathan Taylor, >> Kairen. >> Yeah. >> You mean you'd rather have Josh Jacobs >> or I would rather have Josh Jacob? >> Derrick Henry. Would you rather Derrick Henry or Josh Jacobs? >> Straight up. I would rather have Josh Jacobs. >> That that's I think that's a big question right there. >> And so there are also guys below him where you know you pair you pair people together and go get Josh Jacobs. But I think Josh Jacobs rest of season is a

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top five running back. >> Okay. All right. No, that's it. It makes sense. We'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk some Thursday Night Football. What's up, Footland? You can't count on much these days, but you can always count on Sundays with the NFL on CBS and Paramount Plus. That's right, football fans. Watch your local NFL game every Sunday on CBS and Paramount Plus all season long. This year's schedule is absolutely stacked with rivalries and revenge games, including the next chapter of the epic Bills Chiefs saga. That'll be fun. So stay connected all year on any device at home or on the go.

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Visit paramountplus.com/n to get started today and count on Sundays for another must-see season of the NFL on CBS and Paramount Plus. >> [music] >> Thursday Night Breakdown. >> When you when you have to talk about the Cardinals, is it better to just get it out of the way like this? >> Yeah. Rip the band, man. >> Rip it off. >> Thursday Night Football, Seattle 2-1. Cardinals 2-1. Vegas line Seattle on the road minus one and a half. >> Opened with the Cardinals minus one and a half. >> Interesting. >> People have spoken. >> Yeah. >> Um I I mean I Arizona's defense has

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played well. The overrunner in this game is 43 and a half. Seattle's defense, same story. Special teams last week, defense was a story. Um, I do see the game as a coin flip. The fact it's in Arizona. Seattle won both games last year. One of them was uh 16 to6. Hopefully we don't get that on Thursday night football. That'd be a tough start to the week. Week 14 was 30 to 18. They won them both. Kyler is 1 and three on Thursday nights in his career. 2-8 versus Seattle. Uh Seattle getting back some key pieces in their secondary. Seattle had a really really easy time at

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home last week against the New Orleans Saints. You know, one of the big pieces of this game that I'll start with the running game. Arizona lost James Connor for the season. It's going to be Trey Benson and >> which he's a he's a good play this week. >> He he's a good play. He's a he's a good back. Um you know, do you do you see him kind of slotting in an RB2 range this week? Uh, yeah. I mean, >> Chase Brown and how bad he's been, would you rather play Trey Benson? >> I would play Benson. >> I would as well.

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>> What about Quinch on Judkins and what we saw last week versus Trey Benson? >> Judkins. Who's he? He's got a tough matchup this week. Uh, >> Detroit. >> Yeah. I man, >> Benson, >> I want I want Judkins in my lineup. >> He had a tough match up against the Green Bay Packers. >> Yeah. Let's try to have a um unemotional real conversation about Marvin Harrison Jr. >> It's It was rough. >> The silence is defining. >> No, no, there's me. You said fair. >> You said fair and Jason is only being fair at this point. >> That wasn't me. That was Marvin. So

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sorry. Go on. All right, I'm done. >> I doubt it. Marvin Harrison or DK Metaf against Minnesota. Tough tough defense and matchup for Metaf. >> Do you believe that Marvin Harrison will bounce back this week from a really frustrating disappointing three for 44 blew a touchdown blew a maybe a 75 yard touchdown earlier in the game like the emotional like if you wanted to I think Marvin Harrison is a baby buy now. Yeah, I I agree because it's so negative. >> It's so negative. And what's ironic is that the the the thing that pushes it over the top in negative is his two

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drops in that game. >> Sure. >> But also, he had they're frustrating because what could have been and if he had actually caught those, which obviously Marvin Harrison knows how to catch passes. He's not going to drop every pass. >> This should not be a sentence here to say. >> I I I know. But it's like he's going to he's going to catch those more often than he drops those >> vertical, my man. >> And you know, had he caught those last week, it would be the exact opposite. It'd be like, wow, how can you possibly bench Marvin Harrison after he gets 125

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yards and two touchdowns, is basically what he would have had. >> I just sent Mike a trade offer, a one for one trade offer for Marvin Harrison. >> You did? >> And Mike can bring it up and then you can discuss what side you'd rather have. >> Oh my. Was is it the Is it It's not the player. I think it is. No, >> it's Marv for Z Flowers. >> Oh, okay. I was like, you wouldn't have done I bua for Marv. >> Of course not. No, Marv sucks. I don't want to suck. >> We wouldn't be talking about We'd be

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talking about a trade that went through, >> right? >> Oh, yeah. That one would be [laughter] By the way, if you send Jonathan Taylor and AJ Brown over, I will reject that. >> Yeah, you already sent that offer to me and I declined it. >> Oh, yeah. But if you send it, I'll decline it is what I'm saying. All right. That that is an interesting conversation about to think about. >> Um yeah, but but Marvin Harrison right now is sitting in the wide receiver 23 fringe range. It's hard to go away from someone like huge for Marv. >> Huge has been

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>> Oh, I would not >> I would be playing huge. I'd be playing Brian Thomas Jr. because of the target volume. >> Um would you? >> I think I think I would. >> Trevor Lawrence is really really bad at football. >> Yeah, I would be. >> How about Kyler? >> Brian Thomas. I think Kyler is better than Trevor Lawrence. >> That's the Arizona side. Trey McBride leading all tight ends in target chair. Uh you keep playing him on. >> Oh, don't worry. The Seattle Seahawks are currently dead last and allowing fantasy points to the tight end position. So, keep playing uh Trey

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