Fantasy Football - Trade Targets + TNF Preview, Backup Options - Podcast for 9/24

now something we say. So, that tells you where we're at with Atlanta. Falcons head coach Raheem Morris said, "Michael Pinnick will start week four." >> Oh, goodness gracious. >> You got to answer that question with I'm not answering that question. We have a quarterback. >> He said Kirk lost his job last year. We're not even close to that with Mike. He had a bad game. So, there you go. >> I mean, he did have a bad game. I mean, that's just it's upsetting by the media. >> Yeah, it is a little questions. Yeah, it's not I mean it's the inevitable

question every time you This is what not trading Kirk This is why I thought Kirk was 100% traded >> in the C because you had to get rid of this >> is because I didn't want this to happen to them in week four is you can't have the player sitting back behind. >> Yeah, but then they overvalued Kirk Cousins. >> Yeah, that was news sponsored by progressive insurance. Quote today at progressive.com progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and thirdparty insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. I told you we had a trade episode. Let's

do it. [music] >> Let's talk trades. Three trade for players, three trade away players. That is what we're going to cover today before we get into the Thursday night preview. [clears throat] Um do you do you have a preference? Do we want to talk about tradeaways before we talk about the trade fours? >> Sounds like you do. >> I I don't know. >> It sounded like it though. >> It sounded that way. >> So, let's do that. >> Okay. Who do you want to trade away right now? Who do you think the best tradeaway candidate is? >> Cuz I got a name that I don't know if

either of you guys will agree with. >> Then you start. >> I do not agree with yours. So, why don't you start? >> Javvante Williams. >> Okay. >> Javvante Williams is my number one tradeaway candidate. And unfortunately, there is always like a direct correlation between trade away and I think you're bad at football. I'm not trying to make that case. I think Javante has surpassed expectations. I think he has looked good. Sans one fumble/handing the ball off to Chicago. I mean, he he has looked really really good. Now, he has scored three touchdowns. Do you believe in the Dallas offensive

line? >> No. Do you believe that they have the same threat in the passing game without CD Lamb? >> No. >> Do you believe he's going to score 18 touchdowns? >> No. >> Okay. Those are the three. >> Do you believe you can trade him like someone believes that they're going to that he's going to score 18 touchdown? >> I I think because we're we're at that point now where where the kind of inclinations and the first impressions have given way to more established opinions. And I think that that's the reason this segment is showing up on heading into week four. And I think

Javvante Williams has gotten a ton of deserved praise, but I think this is a turning point for the Dallas offense and the Dallas situation. They have uh a very difficult schedule uh throughout I mean they they have Green Bay coming up. I don't think Green Bay is going to be a great game for Javvante Williams. They just had more offensive line injuries. You know, it always comes down to what you can get for them. But the running back position has been very, very scarce, very difficult to find any production. If you were a team that drafted RJ Harvey or Tayvon Henderson, Ashton Genty, who

we'll talk about, you are hurting. Javvante has represented tremendous production and he's highly ranked. So to me, you know, this is your moment. If you're going to get a maximum value out of Javvante, this would be the time. >> I I think you are right that you're gonna get your max for him right now. That that part I agree with. And honestly, for your play style, Andy, you're you're a, you know, a mile a minute uh trader in in the leagues that you play in, this is perfect. This is day trading. This is like you recognize that these next couple weeks, you know,

going playing against the Packers, two injured linemen, and no CD Lamb. It's not going to be a good >> four. Green Bay is the number one team against the running back position. Then it's the Jets who are 12th. Carolina is sixth. Washington is eighth. >> Carolina is not a good run defense. that maybe the first couple weeks >> this exact same thing happened with them. >> You know, we've seen this with teams that are not great defenses. I mean, it's not like Bejon blew up on them last week. Right now, they're giving up the sixth least fantasy points. That's all

I'm saying. >> The my my pause to move Javvante away is that it is not just a an overwhelming efficiency on the ground. like he is so important to the offense right now and the targets of week two seven targets week three five targets like that those those types of of numbers for someone who is also getting the bulk of the carries it can be pretty difficult to find so I I agree with the sentiment that you're going to see you'll see a dip in value of Javvante after this upcoming week because it it's probably going to be pretty tough But at the same time, like

if well Cassidi Lamb's not going to play, is Javvante going to see another seven targets in that matchup? And he might he might just half or full point PPR his way into being an okay type of performance. >> Yeah. Yeah. I like the target totals. Um I don't like the yardage on really high for >> It feels more like a Chuba situation in the passing game. Five for 16 last year. maybe that what's so difficult with Javvante is coming out of college that was something he could do like that was a part of his profile. Chuba is just that's never been part of his game as a

running back. Javvante was a fully well-rounded running back who just had his entire career derailed by a knee injury that he's couldn't seem to bounce back from. And through three weeks it looks like he has bounced back finally. I mean, you saw it last year. LA last year, you know, Javvante had a ton of work in the pass game. Um, 70 targets, ended up with 346 yards. I think that's he will get a lot of PPR value, but not >> so right now he has the fifth most targets at the running back position. I it that's a tough one. >> He Chuba has a higher yards per catch

career-wise than than Javvante does. That's all I'm saying. >> Oh, yeah. I'm I'm saying he's going to get the targets, but it's not necessarily going to be the >> the big plays. And so I I do think it's the opportune time to trade him because I don't think, like I said, I don't think that their offensive line that is getting weaker is good. I think he's not scoring 18 times. And I think that this Dallas offense is really going to struggle for a long period of time. So, >> and I think a a just a quick reminder for everyone, tradeway does not mean

fire or sell these players. Correct. >> Right. >> No, this is an opportunity to see who will give you maximum value. >> Right. >> All right. All right, we'll take a break and come back with your two tradeaway candidates. And I'm I'm really sad about Mike's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on Cobalt Power tools, Pit Boss grills, LG appliances, and more. Then once your to-do list is done, get ready to kick back, relax, and enjoy the game. Shop in store or online now and earn your Sunday with help from Lowe's,

official partner of the NFL. All right, two more tradeaway candidates, then we'll get into our trade four names. But, uh, you know, I teased it before the break, Mike. I I don't like it. >> Sure, >> I probably agree with it, >> but more like secretively, like I don't want to publicly agree. >> I gotcha. We'll go. We'll just We'll start it with this. [music] >> He still is extremely exciting. Jaka Kroski Merritt aka Bill Kroski. Oh no. J. >> You don't got one for me today? >> Oh, I didn't know we were telling jokes. >> You didn't know I was talking about Bill

Kroski? >> You were supposed to have one. >> You didn't know we were telling jokes on this one. >> BILL KROSKI COULD GET A BIG MAC from Burger King. >> Okay. Thank Thank you. Thank you. Uh, I think that his name still carries some some value, some trade value. Of all the guys out of Washington, he is the one that I would want. So, again, this is not a fire cell of of Bill Croski, but there are some things that I don't like. Zero snaps on third down. Like, he he's probably not going to be anything when it comes to the receiving game.

>> Yeah. How many catches does he have on the year? Do you know? >> Is it zero? It's probably zero. >> It's one. >> Oh, it's one catch for five yards. like he >> that sucks. >> He has when he's getting opportunities, he's looking good, but it's just the it's strange, right, of of Chris Rodriguez from a healthy scratch for multiple weeks to two of the first drives. Perhaps it was a make good with with Rodriguez. I that's to be uh determined. The biggest thing that for Bill that I'm concerned about is while he has to he has to play his way into

being the the main guy, his schedule is rough. Like Atlanta right now, I know last week was a disaster, but like they're they're good against they've been good against running backs, the Chargers, Chicago. You do have two plus matchups, at least based off of of how defenses are playing right now. you have Dallas in four weeks, but then and then Kansas City, that's I don't know if they'll be able to I think Kansas City will turn it around, but then after that it just it even it shuts down even more. So, while we're only 3 weeks in and you don't want to make concrete decisions

about schedule and who defenses are at this point, got to kind of start making some decisions about how things are trending. And for the trend of the Washington running backs being a three person time share with the schedule, I think I would try to get out if I could. >> Do you think if he has you think what would turn it for him would be a couple of big runs? Do you think if he had like a you know 65 yard touchdown run or a big play that he would start to force their hand a little bit in the running

game? >> I would think so. But that also happened in week one. You had I mean the the very nice touchdown run that he had and then at as they were closing out the game, he was the one who broke off a huge carry that that that like essentially ended the game and then he was rewarded the next week against Green Bay with four carries. >> Their schedule's pretty brutal. >> That's what I mean. four out of five games on the road coming up >> and it's like after, you know, uh so that so after Kansas City, Seattle, Detroit, then after the by-week, Denver,

Minnesota, a game against Philadelphia right in the middle of your fantasy playoffs, he's just he's a player that you don't have to trade, but if someone is interested in thinking that Bill's going to take over and and be the main guy for Washington, I might try and get out because the passing work is the passing work freaks me out and we still don't know if he will definitely be the goal line guy over Chris Rodriguez. >> Jason, you said thank you for your service. >> Mhm. [laughter] >> Six for 109 and a touchdown. >> Yeah, I got a I got a sweet trade offer

for this guy in League of Record immediately. >> Uh I have been trying to unload uh my tradeaway player AJ Brown who is >> you're trying to capitalize on the big week. >> Yeah, I mean he's awesome. He obviously hasn't lost anything as a player. You saw that this last week, breaking tackle, stepping over guys, mossing guys, 100 yards, a touchdown. >> Can't tell if we're getting pitched right now. >> No, I mean, [laughter] but this is this is the pitch. This is you. I'm not trying to trade him away for pennies on the dollar. I'm trying to trade him

away. >> Would you rather have Drake London? Yeah, >> cuz that situation sucks, too. >> Drake London's situation sucks. I think you should be able to get Drake London plus something with how bad he's played. he has not had the career uh is not on the offense AJ Brown is on. He's not coming off of a good performance. So, in in most leagues, I would think it would be, you know, Drake London plus something. Um and and that's the type of deal that I would be looking to make. Obviously, there's there's a lot of context in every league as to, you know,

is this a keeper league? Is this um you know, more nuance? But AJ Brown scares me uh from a Philadelphia Eagles perspective. their defense and their running game is so dogone good that they don't always need them. We saw that the first couple of weeks and I think you're going to have a lot of disappearing acts. So, this is where I'm just saying because he just had a monster game. You know, a lot of people saw him looking like himself. He's obviously AJ Brown. He he carries a a a humongous name. feel good with him on your roster. If you can

cha trade him for someone that is, you know, more up like >> would you trade him for Keenan Allen? >> I would not trade him for Keenan Allen. I I I think that Keenan Allen, what you've seen from Lad McConi has been very disappointing. I think that'll p pinpaul back and forth between uh between Keenan Allen and Lad McConi. >> Did you trade him for Marvin Harrison? >> I mean that. So, these are the type of players where I'm looking to trade if I'm if I'm going down. If I'm going to another disappointing player, I'm looking to get them plus something. Marv

plus something. >> Um, yeah. >> Would you trade him for IUA straight up? >> Straight up for Ibuka. I think right now, >> what's that? I I >> You are definitely getting a trade offer in your >> No, no. I'd rather have IA. >> Oh, okay. >> I think I would injury to Evans. I would >> I think I wouldn't trade him for a straight up. >> You can send it. I'll decline it. Yeah, there you go. Um, I also think that it >> I dare you to send that dick. >> He's a great name. [laughter] >> Take it and then I take the offer. Oh,

that'd be the >> That's That would be the most amazing. >> Look, I'll go show you how fast I declined this offer. >> Except [laughter] Gotcha, sucker. >> That's how I trade. >> But he's also someone that coming off of a big game with a big name, you can trade him plus something to maybe elevate, to maybe go up a notch, you know? >> Oh, yeah. throw AJ Brown plus um somebody that you know maybe a younger player. AJ Brown plus Keon Coleman, AJ Brown plus >> and try to try to go you know to someone that is looking like hey he's going to

be a stud this year and it's okay cuz I'm giving you a stud in AJ Brown. AJ Brown's going to have tons of great games just like he did this week. I am not calling AJ Brown a bust on the season but I think it will be um a a very >> if you if you offer >> his consistency score is not going to be great. No, because they'll be disappearing. Actually, if you offer me Jonathan Taylor and AJ Brown for Ibuka, I'll still turn it down. >> I promise. All right. All right. I'm gonna make >> I'll make the offer.

>> If you want to send that through. All right. Let's talk about some trade for candidates. How about that? >> Sure. >> Um Oh my gosh, for a moment there, I genuinely thought, Mike, you had put Javvante Williams in as your name, and I was like, we really got to get talking about what we're doing on the show here for a second. No, I I can start because the the the generous trade offer that I received from Jason was for my player, >> which is a trade four, >> which is a trade four player. >> So, he was trying to do what

>> also my second round pick. >> Okay. Uh >> it was Yeah, I was looking for Garrett Wilson plus. >> Yeah. My trade for sometimes you have to buy players high. That is part of the game. Look, we all want to trade for players when they're at the lowest in in value and see them skyrocket. We all want to buy a penny stock, but sometimes you got to buy a big boy stock. And I think that Garrett Wilson is here to stay. He is currently the wide receiver nine on the season in terms of I mean these are the >> trade for is Garrett Wilson.

>> My trade for is Garrett Wilson. Now target share, percentage of team receiving yards, percentage of first read targets, like he is right there with Puka and JSN. Of course, his quarterback play is is not the same as those guys, but if you don't have the quarterback play, you better have an amazing amount of opportunity. And then Kyle was digging in. And you know, part of our concern with uh with say Marv, we're not getting any layups, you know, and that was part of Garrett Wilson's problem, too. you know, from 2022 through 24, he was running a go route, which is, you know, very valuable if you