I appreciate your strong take. And I'm actually looking forward to seeing, I'm going to watch every Carolina game now with so much more intensity watching Cam and his weird, terrible mechanics. Enjoy those. Run for 700 yards. Those three awesome weeks. Well, I believe Newton and Stafford get together to work on mechanics. Yeah, they're both. It's like Matt, Matt is saying,
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Mock Part 2, News, Notes, and Mailbag.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Mock Part 2, News, Notes, and Mailbag.
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124 passagesNow check the sidearm throw. And then Cam's like, have you ever done that off your back foot? Yeah. Have you ever snapped the ball sideways? Just stand sideways when you snap the ball. And what they actually do is they don't go on the field. They go into like a dance studio where there's just mirrors everywhere so they can watch each other and they go shirtless. And then they throw and do power poses. And then they head out under the bleachers. Uh-oh.
Jay Cutler might get a little jealous here. They're going under the bleachers. Now Jay Cutler and Stavard and Newton are hanging out together. Cam Newton's been invited apart. All three of these guys. And you can see Andrew Luck walking up and then be like, no, no, no, you can't hang out with us. He walks up and sounds like Buffalo Bill is like, hey, guys. Can I hang out with you? No, you accurate passer, you. Go back to your kind. Yeah. Well, you know. Yeah.
Let's rip our shirts off. T.J. Yeldon. Yeah, T.J. Yeldon goes at the end of the round. Fifth round value for a guy that I think is good. It's good. Number one. That's great. Nobody behind him might take over him. All right. So six round. Joseph Randall, Andre Ellington, Greg Olson, Deshawn Jackson, Antonio Gates, and Rashad Jennings. I don't think people know what to do with Rashad Jennings right. Nobody knows what to do. He was the name I wanted to talk about. So let's talk about him.
Is that too late for Rashad Jennings, who, while he wasn't a spectacular runner, so to speak? He was on the field all the time when he was healthy. Because, but he has good hands, and that's where he was making his money. It was the receptions, but. So everybody wants to react and say Verene's going to replace it. Exactly. But I don't think he's going to replace it. Well, what does this speak about Miller? Does, are they, are they, Andre? What? What are you talking about? Williams?
Rashad Jennings, Andre Williams? Oh, man. So point guard for the Philadelphia 76ers. Or whoever he plays. Are they down on him? Or do you think that this is going to be a three-way time share? I think they don't like Williams so much. I feel like Williams was given a tremendous opportunity. He'll be given a tremendous one again this year because Rashad Jennings is going to get hurt again. You're on board now? Of course he's going to get hurt. Were you talking about the beginning of last year when I was trying to jump on his?
Well, yeah, I don't know. I thought I was talking about how every week. He talked me into him getting repeatedly hurt. Yeah, I learn. I'm like a really smart monkey. I learn over time. Well, does this help keep him healthy? No. Not playing football. Not Vereen doesn't. Yeah, I mean, Rashad Jennings is productive in that offense. And that offense should be good. Yes, should be great. But to me, I see it breaking down as as.
Vereen's got that third down and gadget roll. Jennings probably takes first and second down most often, and Williams might grab it around the goal line. That's probably half. So three-hundred monster truck. And that's why I say nobody knows what to do with him. Because if he is a first and second down back on a good offense, does he belong in the sixth round? No. No. But I'd be afraid to draft him. Yeah, he won't be on any of my teams. You got to see how that plays out. I mean, they were even talking about drafting another running back in New York. So.
It's a scary situation there, but value to be had if you can see the future. It could be a really big steal. Yeah. CJ Spiller right behind him. I like way more. That seems... Okay, so explain it to me. Well, I don't understand that.
Here's why. And this is strictly half point or full point PPR because he's going to be a huge pass catching back. I think that C.J. Spiller's got the talent. He's always been an open field runner where he can break huge plays. You look at the Saints getting Max Unger going run heavy, bringing him in when they didn't need him, right? They had running backs and they had hard cap room and they still went and signed him. Sean Payton has been a...
fantastic, a Hall of Fame-type gadget coach. He took Darren Sproles and made him into a fantasy superstar, and I think C.J. Spiller has more talent than Darren Spurals. So now you get an improved offensive line, a dedication to the run, and I just really like the upside potential there. I like the fact that I know what his role is. His role is the clear pass catching back for that team, and I also love the fact that Mark Ingram ahead of him is notoriously injured. And so he could very well.
For the record. I mean, Spiller is as injury prone, if not more than any of these guys. Yeah. I mean, sure. You can say that like, you know, about... So Jennings and him both have a risk. Well, you remember when there was the... We all saw Fred Jackson go down and every C.J. Speller went, I cannot believe this. RB1 and then two plays later is when C.J. Spiller died. You mean Fred Jackson, too.
Yeah, I remember that. I was watching it going, oh, my gosh, CJ Spiller has a home run. Oh, broken. Yeah, and there was nothing worse than the year with the chronic ankle with C.J. Spiller. So I agree that I like C.J. Spiller's role, but I don't know how many passes is he actually going to get if the Saints are truly going to that, to a running offense. Darren Sprouls was fantastic because the Saints threw it 80% of the time.
If it switches down to the, they're throwing it 55%, 57% of the time, those checkdowns are not going to be in the 80 catch area that Darren Sprouls was getting. So Jason has Jennings over Spiller. Mike, who would you take? Spiller or Jennings? I...
Let's throw another guy in there for both of you because the next guys off the board, Keenan Allen, Jarvis Landry, Tevin Coleman, Vincent Jackson, and Ryan Matthews. So let's put these sixth round running backs on the board here. C.J. Spiller, Rashad Jennings, Tevin Coleman, Ryan Matthews. I think, man, I took Ryan Matthews, and I would actually, I might lean.
just overall Ryan Matthews with all those guys on the board. Because I believe Ryan Matthews is still going to get enough work to be a flex option. And then if DeMarco Murray goes down, you have a top five running back. Yeah, if Murray goes down, the potential on Ryan Matthews, the ceiling is clearly the highest here, I think, of all of them. But I would still put him third on my list of this group. I would rank them C.J. Spiller, Tevin Coleman.
Ryan Matthews and then Rashad Jennings. And I take them in the order that are drafted. Rashad Jennings, CJ Spiller, Tevin Coleman, Ryan Matthews. I'm not going to bank on a DiMarco injury. I think there's so much unknown. I don't think you need to. Here's a thing. There's a lot of unknown in all four of their roles. That's why this is the sixth round. Rashad Jennings has performed at least on that team before. So that's why I take him first. But anybody else who want to talk about in the sixth round? A lot of people high on Tevin Coleman. I'm pretty high on him. I'm not that. I'm wait and see.
I'm going to wait and see on it. I just, I don't, I don't think Freeman is anything at all special and I think Coleman has juice. Yeah. So talent rises to the top. The one, the, the only other things that stick out to me here is.
I think that, and this is ironic because of my next pick, but my next pick was kind of more a goof pick because he's my boy, and I wanted to make sure he was on there. But the reason he's my boy is because you don't need to take him there. But drafting a tight-in in these middle rounds, it's just, you know, you take Antonio Gates. We're naming all of these great guys who have potential to do well.
If things go right. And, you know, we didn't even mention some of the wide receivers. Keenan Allen and Benson Jackson and Jarvis Landry here. I mean, they're just great values, difference makers for your team. And when you're wasting an entire round on, you know, an Antonio Gates or my next pick, Kobe Fleener, or, you know, any of those mid-range tight ends, it's just there's not enough difference to them to me to spend those picks where there are such good other value.
positions on the board just to wait on the tight end or get Kelsey or Graham or grunk you know that's that's my strategy Kelsey Graham or Grunk or Kobe Fleer at the very later after somebody and generally I agree with that but I also feel strongly that if you once you're getting into round seven I mean you're you're talking you're starting to take crapshootshoots on guys who may or may not pan
But if you have a guy who you really like, and you know what his ADP is, don't gamble too much on the ADP and miss out on the guy that you really wanted to have on your team. Yeah, we've got a mailbag question today that I think we'll speak to that as well. Oh, nice. All right, let's look at the seventh round real quick. Michael Floyd, Kobe Fleener, Darren McFadden, Charles Johnson, Julius Thomas, Jeremy Macklin, Legerett, Blunt, Duke Johnson, Kevin White.
Bishop Sanky, Larry Fitzgerald, and Gio Bernard. Tons of, ooh, if that guy did this, he'd be great in this round. I feel like there's one clear cut real good value here. So who do you guys think is the... Say it on the count of three. One, two, three. Kevin White. Yep. There you go. We're in agreement. Bishop Sanky. Oh, wait. No. I just think, you know, you look at his...
his potential, and you look at where Amari Cooper got drafted, and I like where he got drafted, and then you see Kevin White going later, you know, who's the better value there might end up being Kevin White? And I think when you compare these guys, I mean, Jeremy Macklin is dead to me. You know, that's a guy that went right around him. And so I, Michael Floyd, I would much rather have Kevin White than Jeremy Macklin or Michael Floyd. I took Floyd over White because I'm still a Michael Floyd believer.
Floyd, despite his quote-unquote disappointing season last year, the one before that he did do it. He showed the potential that he can be a superstar receiver in this league where Kevin White's still a rookie. So I'm going to gamble on the guy who's actually shown the potential. We'll see with the rookies. Other than Mike Evans, Calvin Benjamin, Sammy Watkins, Jordan Matthews, O'Dell Beckham Jr., Brandon Cooks, and Alan Robinson, when's the last time you've seen a rookie?
Wide receiver do well. Put a points, yeah. It's a new league. It's crazy, right? I mean, Kevin White, if he's anything like... Because before last year's anomaly season, who was it? It was Julio Jones and A.J. Green. And Anquan Bolden. I mean, you got to go back years. But I see what you're saying. That's why I really like... They've been coming up more.
I really like the opportunity for... Before this last year, it was Julio and A.J. Green. Yeah, when we had Adam Azer on the show, was that last week? You know, and we asked him the question of whether or not he thinks that was an aberration, or is this the new NFL? You know, and his answer was just, you know, I agree with it. It's very telling. Just this is the way it's going to be now. You know, it's...
First of all, college offenses are more involved. The younger players now are bigger and more physically capable than in years past. Thank you, steroids. And, you know, thank you, power smoothies at colleges. Okay, there we go. If you compare, you know, the wide receivers. Yeah. From 20 years ago coming into the NFL versus now, now they look like.
full-grown beast men, you know, and they used to have to come in and put weight on and learn a playbook that was way bigger than, you know, the, than a college playbook. And now college playbooks and college players, they're ready. They're physically ready. And Kevin White is a prime example. I mean, he has an NFL body like a year ago. Tell me more about his body. Well, if you start at the head.
We'll end at that. Tell me which guys you take over Jeremy Maclin from those lists. Yes or no. Ready? Kevin White. Yes. Larry Fitzgerald? Yes. Defonte Parker. You don't even have to ask. No, I'm going to ask. Torrey Smith in San Francisco? No. Steve Smith? Yes. Okay. Those are all guys that went after him in our mock. Alan Robinson? Yeah. Come on. Oh, yeah? Over Jeremy Macklin? For... Alan Robinson? The target monster?
