Fantasy Football - Week 10 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Backwards Hat Bros - Podcast for 11/7

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. That's all I got. Hey, at least you try. It's going in and out this week. Your voice is better. Yep. I know what you're doing. And football was last night. You said, Mike, you promised us it was football time. You said on the show yesterday, it's football time. You freaking liar. I take full responsibility for that, for really liking the players who were supposed to be in last night's game. That was such garbage. Wasn't it more penalties than first downs? Yes, for both teams. Ah, for both. Yeah. I mean, just. At least Bowers had a big game. Oh, it was awesome. Well, he had a big catch. Pretty early and he was like, okay, all right, let's go. Sutton was great, right? Oh, yeah. He is not the leader in targets or yards for his team anymore.

No, the guy in the lead for both targets and receiving yards for them on the season is the guy who can't connect with his quarterback. Troy Franklin? Yes. Yeah, I believe the numbers that I saw this morning, he's caught one of his last 25 deep passes from Bo Nix. Bo Nix deep passes were a problem for a large part of last year and for pretty much all of this year. He figured it out for a stretch, but I'm starting to not believe he can throw a good deep ball. Bonex has been weird, man. Very, very weird. There is, you remember for weeks we were talking about the fact that he gets out of the pocket and he thinks he can do more out of the pocket than he, last night or this morning, I saw a tweet from Kurt Warner talking about this. And he's like, Bo Nix is leaving the pocket so soon that it's before he hits his back step on the drop sometimes.

And it's like he wants to get outside the pocket because he thinks he can throw the ball better there. But the interceptions are coming. And, you know, Cortland Sutton, the reason he was good last year with Bo Nix, he scored double-digit touchdowns. They were in the red zone. They were connecting all the time. Like Cortland Sutton right now, if you have, if you told me you want to bench him next week, I'm like, cool. If you tell me you want to play Alec Pierce. If Alec Pierce has a good game this week and we're four, five in a row and Cortland Sutton is sitting here going, it's touchdown or bust Cortland Sutton? Yeah. I just don't. This is not the game people expected. I mean. No, not. Of course not. No one ever expects, unless it's like an insane weather bowl or there's two backup quarterback. You can't ever expect a 10 to 7 game. Like there would never be a line that's like over under 20.

You know, it's like, oh, I'll take the under on 20. I pulled up one of the sports scores apps at, uh, somewhere in the third or fourth quarter. And they needed a, they needed a headline to highlight what's been happening in the game. And the headline for the game going into the fourth was, um, who's the kicker for Denver? Oh, he sucked. The punter. No, no, not the punter. The, the, the, the, the field goal kicker for Denver. I don't know why I can't place his name right now. Will Lutz? Yeah, Will Lutz. They're like, um, The headline for the game was Will Lutz hits field goal after missing earlier field goal. That was the highlight of the game. Yeah, my friend, as we were talking, he's like, what is Bo Nix? What, like, he's like, does Bo Nix even know? And then I started walking through it. I'm like, here's the thing. Like, is it good? You can't have done what Bo Nix has done in the last month or so if you're bad.

But also, you can't be doing what Bo Nix is doing over the last month if you're good. Yeah. It's like you are, you are, it's a real Stroudinger's cat situation. The Broncos have beaten the three and six Jake Browning Bengals. The two and seven Gino Raiders by three. The three and five Davis Mills Texans by three. The one and seven Justin Fields led jets by two. Jackson darts, two and seven giants by one. Yeah, it feels that's a fake record. Kind of like a house of cards. This team does not look like a playoff threat to me. Their defense of line is obviously great. They're getting out for the quarterback fantastically. They're keeping the, this offense is a real problem. And it makes me wonder. Number one seed. I did wonder. Now, J.K. Dobbins was okay. 18 carries, 77 yards. It played out kind of like we warned people that.

Even though RJ Harvey's been good on a, you know, on a per touch basis and good for fantasy because the in zone worked the last two weeks. We got to get, got to get a day in there. Yeah. J.K. Dobbins had 18 carries to RJ Harvey's four. And RJ Harvey, you know, only had three targets. So it wasn't very involved. But it does make me wonder with how much this offense has been struggling. Like at what point do you? Do they self-evaluating go, man, we need some more explosiveness in this offense? Maybe we do need to get RJ Harvey more involved. I don't know. I don't know if Sean Payton has that in him. No, and I think it would just be in the passing game. I mean, right now the Cortland Sutton, three for 24. Pat Bryant had a 43-yard catch. That was his only catch. Evan Ingram, two catches. RJ Harvey, two catches. You want to get explosiveness, throw the ball to RJ Harvey a little bit more. Ashen Gentie scored again. He was okay. Yeah, 19 for 60 and a touchdown. Yeah.

Tyler Lockett was the leading receiver for the Raiders. Yeah, this game sucked. One catch for Bowers. I mean, yeah, it was just terrible. And I mean, it hurt a lot of people. Like, everybody who had Brock Bowers played Brock Bowers. And I think most people who had Bo Nix in what looked like a prime matchup favored at home against a beatable defense, I made the choice. And so this, I mean, this, I hate even admitting this sounds with hindsight. It's like, what an idiot. Why would you? Okay. I played Bo Nix. over Jalen Hertz in our main dynasty. I get it. I mean, I promise Jailen Hertz will have a better fantasy. I had, for a league of record, I had Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton Stack versus Ashton Genti and the Broncos defense. Oh, oh. So I went from the highest projection of the week to projected to lose. Man, we talked about this game too long. Agreed. It's Friday. Put Clan Friday.

Every Friday we give $100 away to, well, it's a gift card to Fantasychamps.com where you can get your trophies and rings and belts and things like that. We're getting closer to that. Yes, we are. That ring time. This week's lucky winner is Micah L 46625. Probably a robot. Oh, I would have got. Probably a robot. I was going to go Mickahill. Micahill. I was like, why did you read Michael wrong? But yeah, it's not Michael. No, it's Micah. It's Micah. It's Micah. Congratulations. Enjoy the $100 gift card. Let's talk some news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Jaden Daniels MRI did not show any ligament damage. Dude, what? Just a dislocation. He will not require surgery. Does he have gumby ligaments? Seriously. He's going to be re-evaluated after the buy. I think that will be along with the team's record. But no ligament damage, no need for surgery. That dude's ligaments are awesome. This is, he can definitely touch his toes.

Probably. Oh, yeah, yeah. Probably. This is just, this is awesome. It's great news. It's great news. I have Jaden Daniels in a league as a keeper, and I don't want to think about this injury through the off season. Right. Yeah. It was so great to see it be minor. Not minor. I mean, the guy's elbow dislocated, but what it could have been. Not going on IR is incredible. It's also really good news for the morale of the team that still has to play football. Like they have something to play for now. Sure. They're trying to play. Just like we've seen with the Bengals.

at least the offense trying like crazy to get the win so that they can make the playoffs so we can get burrow back they're not folding it up and being like well our season is lost it looked you know when this injury happened like a lost season now it's like we're playing for jaden daniels so yeah if you strung a few games yeah exactly now it's hard against detroit this week but jeremy fowler reporting the buccaneers are thinking godwin could come back in late november or in december Those are two different months. Goodness. That's a really loose timeline, and he's not going to be relevant for fantasy. I wonder if he just, he comes back too quick for his own good. I mean, he's done this on multiple major injuries where it's like, wow, he got back quicker than we thought. And then it was like, maybe you shouldn't have both times. Like Camp Scataboo, take your time. Come back on the timeline. Don't, you know, which is, of course, ahead of schedule. But still, not like, don't blow our minds.

James Cook returned to a limited practice on Thursday. Okay. Rico, two pumps, Dalal, returned to a limited practice on Thursday. Is this also good? Harold Fanon was added to the injury report with a hamstring injury. You do not like seeing that. Najoku, I believe, is practicing in full. Is that a fan string? No, it's not. All right. What? He was going with a fanning hamstring. I don't know, brother. Oh, man. I'm not well. All right, Aaron Jones. It's almost the weekend. Return to a limited practice on Thursday. Ramandre and Booty not practicing for the Patriots, Adunzei and DJ Moore, limited for the Bears. Full practice for DeAndre Swift. We talked about that yesterday. And a full practice for Luther Burden. So concussion protocol, I would imagine he's progressing quickly enough that he should be active. And Michael Pittman, full practice. Good. Need them? Need them this week? Yeah, I need them every week. All right. We don't have practice for Brian Thomas Jr. Nick Chubbs back, Pooka, full practice.

and Saquan and A.J. Brown, both full practice participants. After the buy, they were both hurt or, you know, Sequan. They said it was minor. This seems to prove it out. And then A.J. Brown, nice to see him back at practice. Monday night football game for A.J. Brown. You would like to know now, not later. Yes. For sure. That was news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at progressive.com. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers. Not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits, and conditions. Fantasy Forecast, presented by prize picks. Yesterday we talked through quite a few matchups, Falcons, Colts, Giants, Bears, Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Patriots, Buccaneers, Saints, and Panthers. So if you want to listen to the breakdowns on those games, just click yesterday's show, listen through, and then come on back for the rest of the matchups. We'll start with Jacksonville 5 and 3, taking on the 3 and 5 Houston Texans.

The Vegas line Jacksonville minus one and a half on the road. Overrunners 37 and a half. We have had repeated weeks where we were surprised the Texans were. So Jacksonville? Well, this is a C.J. Stroud not playing situation. Oh, yes, of course. Of course. No C.J. Stroud in this one. It'll be General Mills himself. It was 519 and 1 as a starter. That's bad. Trying to get to 5 and 20 in this one. That is the worst record for any quarterback since he came into the league. He said to make at least 25 starts. Yeah. There was, he was part of the method for acquiring C.J. Stroud. Which was funny, getting that top pick. Because he had a stretch of games. You're like, maybe. I think he has something. Everybody has that. Like Tyler Shuck might show it a little bit. I'm just saying you, you look. Spencer Routler had a couple of games. You were like, oh, okay. And then they're going to get the number one pick.

Justin Fields is like he'll have his games where you're going to get the number two pick. Yeah. That's pretty much what makes a good and bad quarterback. They're all really good players. They make the NFL because they're the best in the whole world and the good ones do it all the time and the bad ones do it occasionally. Fair. Guess what? Only Cam Ward and Dylan Gabriel have a lower pass rating than Trevor Lawrence. Math checks out on the eyeballs because he. The eyeball math. He is not. He is? He is? who we thought he was how we how do you not cut your hair trevor at that at least just do something when you have been struggling change go with a change up yeah get lacy even if you don't need oh the right just do something you can be better than 2020 vision yeah i mean this is 2015 maybe he's what's the maximum vision you can have i don't know but i'm pretty confident you can actually have better eagle eyes in have better vision than i mean there has to be a limit

Don't think, but 2020 isn't considered perfect vision? Not anymore. Not in today's day and age. We've, we've enhanced our eyeballs. I might be making this up. We could not just be like, 20, sure. 2015 vision? I've heard people say that they have better than. You can see 20 feet when an average person can see 15 feet. That's what that means. Yeah. So, 2015. Yeah. I've heard that before. People are like, oh, I got better than. better than 2020. Trevor Lawrence doesn't, or maybe he does and that's the problem. He's overthrowing everything. He's like, oh, I'm seeing 20 feet. Y'all can only see 15. And I'll throw it 20 when they're standing at 15. Jacobi Myers is going to play in this one, only outside to start, according to their head coach. And then Parker, Washington will be in the slot. Brian Thomas seems destined to miss this one. I don't want to guarantee it because we still have a Friday practice. Hasn't practice this week. Had a low grade high ankle sprain.

Those are normally multi-week. Yeah, I mean, if you, and a high ankle sprain, we've said it's usually zero or three. So he could play this week, but the fact that he hasn't even been limited in practice, not even trying to go, he probably misses multiple weeks. Now, Parker Washington, last week's darling PPR dart throw appears set to do it again. However, this defense is the number one defense against quarterbacks and number one defense against wide receivers. I do think. I mean, obviously Trevor Lawrence is going to complete some passes and throw for some yards. I think a lot of it's going to go Parker Washington's direction. And so if you're in a full PPR league, he's an okay kind of basement floor type player. I can't see him having a really monster game in this specific matchup. Yeah, the whole Jaguar's side makes me nervous. Travis E.T.N. I play him because I can't imagine I have a name that I would.

start over him. You're playing him over Ken Walker against Arizona. Yeah, I would. I would. I mean, he's, he's been okay. He's been okay on the season, but this matchup is just, it's brutal. And if the past catchers can't get anything going, this might be another one of the 10 to 7 game. Yeah, I mean the exact same, what the Broncos Texans of last week might be the same thing. I'm cool with ETN. I think they'll be in control of this game and able to run the football quite a bit. On the other side. How about? Yeah, go ahead. I've got Trayvion ahead of them. I got Trayvion ahead of them. David Montgomery ahead of them. Those same kind of tier. Yeah, I want a little bit more ceiling, a little bit more juice. The youth and the ability to still have his breakout game, which Henderson is waiting for. He showed enough on film last week where I think there is a world. I know it's against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. There's a world where he has a breakout. I don't see a great game coming from Travis E.T.N.

Unless it's touchdowns. Like if he has multiple touchdowns because, you know, pass interference on the one or whatever. Davis Mills led offense on the other side. Nico Collins. Yeah, you're still playing. With kind of a depressed face. Yeah, but I mean, I'm not. He's had. I'm not not confident that Nico can still have a good game. Not not. Yeah. He has, who's there? Nice. Thank you. We're back. We're so bad. Yeah. You save the whole show, Jason. Backwards. Dung. um he has had good games with david mills uh davis mills and we are slow back it's friday gillian abriel um so yeah you're gonna you're gonna play you're gonna play nico i mean the the jaggs give up a lot of points to quarterbacks and wide receivers on the season woody marks nick chub with chub back at practice uh with the defense for

Jacksonville being a top 10 against the run. They don't seem like players you should, you should actively try not to play them. Yes. They're a neither-nither situation where like ETN clearly ahead obviously, but I think. What about like Tracy, Tyrone Tracy against Chicago? I have both Singletary and Tracy ahead of Woody Marks. Okay. And in the opposite order. I've got Singletary ahead of Tracy. Oh, you do? Yeah. Okay. Arizona's three and five. Kyla Murray's on the injured reserve and they go to Seattle to take on the currently cooking Seattle Seahawks who are six and two and playing so well. Seattle minus six and a half. The overrunners 44 and a half. Seattle won 2320 in week four. It was one of the many games in a row that Arizona managed to barely lose. Sam Donald's been amazing. And now we add Rashid Shaheed to the offense. It's exciting.

We have Tori Horton emerging as a rookie, although he didn't practice on Thursday. He may miss. JSN is a machine. There's a lot to like about the passing game in Seattle right now. There is a lot to like about the passing game. I think that if you just look at season-long statistics of the Cardinals defense, you're going to be misled to thinking this is a better matchup for the passing game than it actually is. They also got their first round pass defender back. The Cardinals did. This is Will Johnson. Are you talking about? No, Nolan. You're talking about our defensive tackle? Yeah. Oh, you said pass defender, so I got confused. I'm just saying he was all after the quarterback last week had his first sack. I've never heard that before. I think this will be a more defensive battle than we.

I hope it is. I don't think Seattle covers six and a half. They might win the game. But I agree with you. I mean, Seattle's defense is outstanding. And they're going to be at home, 12th man. Cardinals are going to have to go on the road and Jacoby gets another start. The nice thing about Jacoby right now, he's throwing the ball down field like crazy. And 287 passing yards a game. He seems good for a couple of touchdowns. Trey McBride has been the best. I mean, he's now the number one overall tight end on the year. Jacoby Brissette to thank for it. Yeah, he's looking solid. We loved Marv getting five targets in one quarter. So there's more confidence. The running backs for Arizona. Gross. It's like the problem is, is like, well, is it demarcato? He seemed like he had the most juice last week, the most production. I don't know that I really want to chase that. He's the one I would play of the group. I'm actively doing that. I cut Bam Knight to sign Demarcato.

Demarcato. Would you play DeMarcato or Woody Marks? I'd probably play Woody Marks. Okay. That's where I am as well. And then do we make anything of, you know, we had, if you can remember a couple weeks ago, which feels forever. Seattle was talking about the run game. They go into the buy week. They come out of that. Ken Walker has his highest snap share of the season at 57%. It was 13 opportunities. Opportunities were still close between him and Charbonnet. Is this just a one game, oh, he got extra snaps this week, or do you feel like, are we going to be on a trend here that Ken Walker will be actually startable with some confidence? I think both of these guys are startable without confidence. Okay. You have, when they get around the goal line, it's going to be Charbonnet, so you've got a chance at a touchdown. When you're not there, Walker can have the big plays, clearly the more explosive runner. But I believe that this will be a near 50-50 timeshare.

Every week rest of season. Have you seen the someone made up a meme they're playing Madden or it's like their games happen for Ken Walker where it's like they're talking to him on the headset. Walker rips off. Oh, yeah. Huge run and they're like, go down. Go down Walker. Go down. He's like, okay. So he goes down at like the five and then just like dives on his own. Yeah. He's like, okay. Well, next boy. Then they get him in the back and they lined up. Wait, time out. Time out. Get sharps in there. Good sharps. It's so funny. Here's something wild, by the way. You remember how impressed we were with Sam Darnold through the first eight games last year in Minnesota? Nobody expected it. So through eight games last year in Minnesota, he was averaging 16.7 fancy points per game, 14 passing touchdowns and five picks. This year he's at 17.2, 16 passing touchdowns five picks. Just unbelievable. Better than last year. Higher completion percentage, more yards per game. He's been awesome. I'm so pumped.

It's great. For a Shaheed on this team. Yeah, it's going to be pretty interesting, and it may happen quicker with Cup and Horton's injuries, too. All right, we'll take a break. Come back with the Rams 49ers. From Curtis 50 Cent Jackson and the executive producers of power comes the final season of force. Tommy Egan is back and he's going all in. Turf Wars, betrayal, and chaos erupt. Will he finally become the kingpin of Chicago? Watch the explosive season premiere now, only on Stars and the Stars app. Lowe's knows Sundays are for football. So tackle your home improvement projects by Saturday and earn your Sunday with great deals on LG and Bosch appliances. Select Bounty and Swiffer cleaning products and more. Then once your to do list is done, get ready to kick back, relax, and enjoy the game. Shop in store or online now and earn your Sunday with help from Lowe's official partner of the NFL.

LA, the Rams, six and two, taking on the six and three, San Francisco 49ers, Rams, four and a half point road favorites in this one. Overrunners 49 and a half. Jason, you made a little bit of a face there. You know, I get it because the 49ers are really banged up. But Kyle Shanahan, I feel like he has, he's the one coach that has McVeigh's number. He's 11 and 7 against McVeigh. They beat the Rams. earlier this year in Los Angeles. Yep. So a four and a half point Rams on the road favor is, I mean, I get it, but I'm a little skeptical. Well, the Rams are really playing well on offense. Mike, you made Matthew Stafford your start of the week yesterday on the show. Top eight quarterback in four of his last five games. That's not really been the Stafford story. No, it has not. It's Avanti Adams. They get around the goal line. In the last couple of years, that's the Kyron zone.

And it's been working. But now what's working is, hey, let's throw it to Devante Adams inside the five. I forget the exact target numbers, but he is like five or six targets ahead of the second place. He is, that's their plan and their plan is working. Yeah, he's on pace for 17 touchdowns. He has third. He's got 20 targets inside the red zone. And then. Number two would be Trey McBride at 16. I believe all his touchdowns are within the 20 yard line. He also has 13 targets inside the 10, which I mean, we've all heard of a goal line running back. That's a goal. They have a goal line wide receiver. They do. You play Kyron. You play Puka. You play Devonte Adams. You play Matthew Stafford. On the other side, CMC, no questions asked. He's easy. Wide receivers, though, for San Francisco and confidence in Mack Jones. He's averaging 36 past attempts a game.

They are at home. Do you have any confidence with any wideouts right now? I mean, the target share of Joanne Jennings has been good. The production, not impressive. 55th, that wide receiver, then 47th, then 24th the last three weeks. You know, saved by a touchdown last week. The ardage has been 45, 41 and 31? The problem is the yardage is not where you need it for feeling any sort of coziness. to play joan jennings right now so are all the wide receivers kind of off the table for you i don't think they're off the table they're just they're far hard to reach on the table they're like you play parker parker washington goes above them all quentin johnson above them all wandale above them all i would rather play well quentin johnson for sure i think he's always got the explosive upside but i i think i would rather have joan jennings than parker washington um i oh

That's crazy. That's crazy. All right. Okay. Water bet. That's why. I don't know that it's crazy, but okay. It's just a matchup play. I'm the one that decides. Yeah. This game with a 49.5 point over under 22 and a half implied points for them. You know, the Rams have been very difficult to run on. But, you know, they can be passed on. So it's one of those where I'm just, yeah, Parker Washington is is guaranteed more targets than Juan Jennings. but I think they're going to be very hollow worthless targets. Hmm. I mean, I decided you're crazy, so I don't agree with anything. You said. We always knew that, though. George Kittle. Keep playing him. He's too good of an individual player and at a position that is... Since he's returned, obviously he had the goose, and then four for 43 and four for 32. One of those with a touchdown. That's sad. So we are at the time of the year, and considering what we saw last week from Brian Robinson,

If you got McCaffrey, Brian Robinson needs to be on your bench at this point. If you don't have McCaffrey, Brian Robinson needs to be. Yeah, he's not a bad. Everyone needs to pick up Brian Robinson. He's probably one of the top insurance options. So I went, I'm like, man, what's Brian Robinson's roster percentage at? So I go in a sleeper, search Robinson, click on B. Robinson. I'm like, 100% rostered. That's B. John. I got B. Robinson's. My son did that with the number one pick. Yeah. Brian Robinson per sleeper is only 32% roster, which means Brian Robinson needs to be picked up. Yeah. No, I mean, Blake Corrum, we just talked about the Rams. He needs to be picked up too. Just saying, like since Kittle is back, the actual running, the ground game for San Francisco has been better. Like at the beginning of the year, it felt like should Christian McCaffrey miss time, Brian Robbins is just going to be an okay replacement level guy.

But they're getting it going to the point that he would be, like he'd be a full fab dump at this point. And this is the time of year. Yes. Where, you know, we don't always draft these insurance backs. You don't necessarily know who it is. It's not clear which ones will be the guaranteed backup. But now we're getting close enough to the playoffs where you start scooping these guys up, protect yourself. You know what your roster is. So, you know, start stocking up. on those insurance running backs. The Detroit Lions are five and three coming off a loss to Minnesota, going to Washington to take on the Marcus Marietta led commanders who are three and six. The Vegas line, Detroit minus seven and a half on the road. A nice 49.5 point over under gives Detroit almost 30 implied points in this one. And just a couple of Dan's going at it. Dan Quinn, Dan Campbell, little Dan battle.