Fantasy Football 2017 - Starts of the Week, Week 4 Matchups, Muscle Hamster

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to the fantasy footballers podcast. Coming to you from the Playdraft Studios with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, what's up, Foot Clan? What's going on? Oh, week four is here. We got football tonight. I'm excited. It's going to be a great show. We have starts of the week. Hmm. You trying something new over there? I don't know. It didn't work.

I love you. I love you. Starts of the week are still my favorite segment of the entire week. So we've got starts to the week on the show today. Jason's boom, boom kicker. Oh, I liked it. I like that he's trying something new. Oh, right. No, I appreciate that. I appreciate. New things don't always work. I throw 100 new things out every day. Maybe one of them sticks. But that one of them makes it worth it. Wow. Like that haircut?

Yeah, speaking of haircut, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow, Phil. I was going to say that thing is. I'm very overgrown at the moment. Yeah, if you want to check out that truth, go to YouTube.com slash fantasy football. And yet my hair is, you forget the URL for a second? The fantasy footballers or is it just slash fantasy footballers? I can't remember. On the YouTube? Yeah, on the YouTubes. Try both. Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. All right. Check this out. Quick question for the show today. Last year, so 2016, of the top 12 running backs, three.

We're not in the top 45 through weeks one through three. Isn't that incredible? That is. Lev Bell, Jordan Howard, and JJ. We're all outside the top 45 as we headed into week four, which we're doing right now. And my question is two part. One, we haven't talked about Doug Martin in a while. And Doug Martin is scheduled to return next week, not this week. Don't put them in your lineup. Next week.

So this is the final Jaquiz Rogers by himself. You've kind of had one good, one bad game. But can Doug Martin be one of those guys that he misses these first three weeks and ends up in the top 12? And if it's not him, do you have any other names, somebody that might fall into that category? But speak to Doug Martin first, because I've seen a lot of questions from people on Twitter. They want to know how much they can basically lean on Doug Martin from here on out. Yeah, I actually like Doug Martin a lot.

him going to be a RB1, if you're talking on the entire season. Him going to be? If he were going to become at the end of the season on the whole, an RB1, I think it's going to be difficult this year because of the incoming rookie class. There's just too many, you know, new guys fresh meat that I think are going to end up in the top 12, the Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixen.

Chris McCaffrey has that chance. Dalvin Cook, Kareem Hunt. I mean, it's an incredible rookie class. So that's going to make it hard for Doug Martin to finish as an RB1 missing the first three weeks. But I think from here on out, he will be an RB1. And I would be willing to go trade for him right now. It's hard to trade for a guy that was drafted. Especially at this point. That's what I mean when you held them. But my tip to you, if you're in a league where you wish you could,

Go and look at the Doug Martin owner's team and look at his record. Because if he's 0 in 3, then he needs a win. He needs a win this week and Doug Martin's not helping him. And you could say, look, I know you held on to him, but if you go 0 and 4, you're not making the playoffs, which is not true, but you can, you know, you can tell him that. You got to use leverage. You got to use your leverage. And then try to help their team. Look and go, this player from my team would actually help him get a win this week.

because that will actually facilitate a trade happening, and then steal yourself some Doug Martin. I also recommend De Quiz Rogers owners maybe look at if you can get a more permanent running back from the Doug Martin owner at this point where that person can play quiz this week and then transition into Doug Martin. It's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. If I look at the top 12 running backs right now, I'm fairly certain that I don't think Chris Thompson or Tariq Cohen end up in that top 12 at the end of the year.

especially with currently Zeke, Lev Bell, with Sean McCoy all outside of it right now, DeMarco Murray. But because of those names right now being outside of that top 12, I do agree with Jason. I don't think Doug Martin will end up inside the top 12 at the end of the year. I do think it's possible, no doubt. But yeah, I would vote that he'll be very good, very serviceable. I guess that's the real question. Borderline one, but not quite a, you know. Is he going to be really good?

or really bad because those are the only two things Doug Martin chooses to do. I think he'll be very good. And I actually, there's two answers, right? Because there's one, this question says, is he going to end up in the top 12 at the end of the year? That doesn't mean that he's not a top 12 running back the rest of the season. Right, right? Because if he does that, it doesn't mean he catches up to these guys. He probably would, though. So Mike, as the resident anti-Dug Martin guy, I do not think he will end up as a running back one. He can be a service of running back to. He will get the volume.

Yeah. He's he's he's I wouldn't try necessarily. You know, I would I would I would try and trade for him if I can get him cheap, but I don't think that's possibly happening. And the guy I'll throw out there who's not in the top 45 who could end up in the top 12 this year. Jay Ajai. Yep.

You'd do it back to back gears. I looked that up as well. But in half point, he was. So one bad game. He was 46. One bad game and one by week. That by week cheats your entire argument. It still counts. I mean, Lev Bell was suspended. Wins the win, man. All right. Good answer. Good answer. Are we on prices right? What? Isn't that family feud? Yeah. Oh, that's what it is. There we go. Get your game. It's correct. But you guys got to chime in with me. Oh. You know. Good answer. Good answer. It can be the worst answer, but.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And then you got to clap. The thing is, you know, for Ajai and Howard, that was opportunity appeared for both them. Ajai was not the starter coming in. Howard was not the starter. So you're, if you're trying to find those guys, it's going to be someone who gets an opportunity like Deonti Foreman or someone like that. Or even, I mean, I know the talent isn't there, but the opportunity could be there for Wendell Smallwood. Sure. Survey says. Eh, eh.

Bad answer, bad answer. No, he was one of the names I thought of it. Just if he can get volume and he becomes the passing down's guy, it could happen. And an angel comes down and touches them on the shoulder and makes him exceptionally talented. All right. Listen, we've got a long way to go on the show. We have the fantasy forecast starts of the week, as I said. Do you want to remind you, there are articles coming out on the website every single day.

And if you just can't get enough fantasy football, you can go over there, the fantasy footballers.com. There's a snap count observation article that comes out every week. But Marcus Meaney, great article, Target Report articles. You can kind of just dig deeper and get some perspective on the season thus far. I've got a bunch of tweets going out today that are going to help give you the basically stats through week three on a number of different areas. Yeah, and I will say this. I think Thursday is my favorite day of the week.

for articles on the website because the three staples of, I mean, the target report, the snap count observations, and also the decoding the top 12 quarterbacks, those are three articles that you really do want to read. They're solid work. You can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. And you can find us on YouTube, the fancy sports network. We're on join thefoot.com. That's our community on Facebook, Instagram, everywhere.

If you want really long, elaborate tweets, then check out at FF Hitman. Okay. Who's part of the 280 club. The 280. All right, let's explain this. Mike. There's no explanation needed. I'm in the 280 club and you aren't. Yeah. How do we know it's really you that's in the 200 club? Right. You'll never know. So Mike. Or you can just peek over my shoulder as I go, one, two, three, four, five, six. Somebody out there in the world recognized how long-winded Mike is and offered him the ability to tweet.

at greater lengths than we can. And honestly, Brooks, I mean, you've got to be with me and Jason just completely jealous, bent out of shape. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That sounds like a sad man. Losing sleep. You hear that? Well, here's the thing, though, is I'm in the club, right? Sure. You guys aren't in. I won't let you win. The bouncer. The bouncer's outside. I went to, like, jokingly go hashtag 280 club. That hashtag already existed.

So there's other people out there who are as petty as I am. Let me just ask you this. Twitter comes to you and says, Mike, I will give you the blue check mark for your 280. Oh, the trade. The man of the people has to explain his situation. You liar. You're taking that blue check mark and you know it. Be 280 characters of apologizing for not having. All right. Hey, by the way, the rankings, the week four rankings, initial rankings up on the website, the fancy footballers.com as well. Let's get into the news.

News and notes from around the league. Seems like a little louder than normal. A little bit. Like a little, the news is louder today. Big news day. What do you make of it? I want to know your thoughts on this story. So Dr. David Chow, which is at Pro Football Doc, and he gets interviewed a lot. He is a great follow. He is. He is. He is a great follow. He's an orthopedic surgeon. He.

was the leader of a, I forget which team, but he was. The Chargers. He was the Chargers. And he breaks things down for fantasy football. I mean, he watches the games and if he'll watch the injury and give his professional opinion on what happened. I'm coming at it from the angle, however, because this news report came out yesterday from him, right? He's an independent doctor. He says he doesn't expect Andrew Luck back until November. Now, we did just get news that he's not practicing this week.

How much do you believe that this is relevant news when you don't have a doctor connected to the Andrew Luck situation? You're getting a third-party opinion, mind you, a qualified one, but a third-party opinion on an injury that he's not intimately familiar with in terms of Andrew Luck himself. Do you buy into the fears that this is now a November timeline? Because we're not even in October yet. That is a long time away.

Or do you kind of dismiss it? Because I lean the second side of that. I lean, this is news because it's news, but it's not necessarily accurate. The heart of the question that you're asking is really important because it's what is the source? Because not all news is made the same. And the issue here is the source is disconnected from Andrew Luck. Some people are verified. Some people are unverified. Right, exactly. But this is a really good source.

He's been fairly accurate, and he does know his stuff. So I take it a little bit serious. You know, what he's talking about is he's going to have to be back at practice for a couple weeks before he gets in the game. That's his opinion, but it's probably right. And the fact that he hasn't started practice means that it will be October when he starts practicing. Now, will it be November? You know, I think he could get in the end of October.