Week 7 Studs & Duds + Tight End Dominance! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/23

We are talking studs and duds on today's episode, walking you through all the great performances and all the ones that made you cry. Which ones are prescriptive and which ones should you ignore? Make sure you leave a comment about how your week went and enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The fantasy footballers podcast.

Monday episode of the show, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway with you. What a do. Also have Deucer's All filled up, packed out. The judge is here. Hey-oh. Al Borland back from his, what was it, more of a jaunt through the Mexican Riviera. You got it. Yeah, yeah. And the Rapscallion here as well. Are you awake over there? Justin, are you alive? I'm awake. Okay. Barely. Barely? It was a rough week for fantasy, but I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, that's a lot of what this Monday is. If you're celebrating, congratulations. Mm-hmm. You have, uh, some of you. Deontza Foreman. Yeah, you have Deansle Farman. If you're not, we are here to commiserate with you. And, um, uh, quick headline here, because I know if I don't mention it at the very top, it's all that Twitter will have, um, directed at us. Mike's puppy is doing well. Mm, yes.

Mike, we'll be back with us tomorrow. Recovered and doing very well. Doing well. So, you know, shouldn't have eaten that sock or whatever it was. I believe it was a sock or a blanket and some plastic. They haven't found the source yet. Really? I hope they do find and remove said source. Yeah, I think the puppy is doing well, which is very, we're happy to report and we're with you. We're reacting to the weekend. We've got news to talk about your studs, your duds, and, of course, a very sophisticated Monday, pun day. Let's begin with the good, Jason, like, well, not good for you, but good for everyone else. Deontah Scoreman. Yeah, he did against me a lot. But how about La Marvelous Jackson? Boy, he was good. He was real good. I think Al played him.

against him in a couple of leagues. Uh, what about Jamirical Gibbs? There he is. Oh, oh, Bilbo Bagdam. He did. He played really well. He sure did. Uh, Kareem the Dream this week. Oh, but they weren't all good. No. Like Jared Gawful. Oh, or, I didn't see this one. Or, uh, very sophisticated Justin, her butt. Yeah. And what does that do? Amari Pooper. Yes, and, uh, Well, someone was sick this weekend, and so let's give him some Bijan Robitussin. Yeah, that sucked. Uh, how about Pooper Cup? Or Austin Ickler. And, uh, well, there's a lot here. Deshaun, what's the thing that's wrong with him? What is wrong with you? What is wrong? Deshaun Watts sucks. Yeah, he does. Yeah. Um, I saw a lot of Deshawn Watson related, uh,

negative puns that I really enjoyed reading. They just weren't. We could not put here. No, I did update my top three. My players I've enjoyed watching play football the least this season. Okay. Those rankings are updated. Moving to the number one spot is Derek Carr up from number two. So he's the number one most unwatchable. Number two is now Deshaun Watson. Okay. Sean Watson. It's limited viewability. Yeah, I was going to say good news. You might not have to watch him. He loves being clear to play football and not playing. And then number three, Mac Jones, yes, you got the win, but I still don't like, I didn't like watching. See, I felt like he looked watchable this week. He was more watchable, his play, but all of his reactions and celebrations. Oh, sure. It made him very unlikable. But every week you can submit your Monday Punday over on X at the FF Ballers or on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers and help us react to the weekend. Let's get into the news.

News and notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, I mean, this isn't NFL news, but I just realized that a week from tomorrow will be the spookiest episode of the season, Jason. So you'll have to tune in. We've got the Halloween episode of the show. I changed my costume this morning. I like where you're going. Yeah. I don't think you'll like it in person. And I'll tell you this about my costume. thought about it. I thought it was a good idea. It was timely. It was fitting for the show. It's very funny. And then I definitely second-guess it and was like, should I do this? I will say this. You will never second-guess it more than once you're completely ready. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And we don't record this show. No, no, no. Don't worry. No one will see it. Good, good. And while Mike will be dressed up as well, not as a bear.

but as something else. So, well, this news, Kyron Williams, this came before kickoff, but he's been placed on IR. Yeah, you kind of saw this coming when they started talking about, you know, week 10. You're like, well, they might need that roster spot, especially after they go and add a bunch of running backs. So, yeah, Kyron, get healthy. I mean, that's a huge blow. The teams that had Karen Williams were relying on him and doing an RB1 unexpectedly well. Yeah. Yeah. And I traded him on the news of three weeks. Yeah, wisely. And then got this news, so got out of that. Atlanta Falcons running back Bijon Robinson was, quote, not feeling all that great, said Arthur Smith. Yeah, one of the biggest storylines of the weekend. I've got plenty of Bejan Robinson chairs. There's no one on planet Earth who has Bejan Robinson, who did not start Bejan Robinson because it was half time of the game.

before the reporting started coming out of what is going on. No reports. And let me tell you, it is tremendous news that he was feeling sick. Oh, yeah. It is the best news you've ever had because if he wasn't, one, security detail for Arthur Smith required immediately. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two, Cordero Patterson was getting piles of work, Algier, no snaps for Bijon. And they won the ball game again. I was so upset that they won. Just because I don't like what Arthur Smith is willing to do. Arthur's now, he has a card he can pull out when you question him. And the card shows that when you don't use Bijon, very much Kyle Pitts or very much Drake London, he's like, I see I won anyways. And I don't want him to have that card. It's too dangerous.

So I watched the interview with Bijon afterwards talking through this. Please tell me he didn't say I felt fine. No, no, no. It was very comforting. It was a little strange because it seemed like he, you know, he wasn't feeling well. He said he didn't, he didn't take a COVID test. He wasn't sure his head was hurting. He felt worse the night before than the day of. But he said he talked to Coach Smith and that coach Smith said, We want to make sure you're good to go next week. We've got two other capable guys. You know, we'll rest you. And so hearing that they want to have him ready for next week is everything you want to hear and a B. Jean Robinson manager. It is weird. You know, it's like Arthur seems like the type of guy that's like, oh, you got a headache. Get in there. And yet, well, look, there is.

I don't think there's a world where, like, Cordero Patterson gets zero touches. Maybe it's two. Maybe it's three. But it'll be annoying. And Tyler Algier will get his touches. And so you are going to be, like, Bijon is amazing. Bejon is not a player. I'm saying you trade away or fear. But I said it earlier when we were drafting. We were doing our redraft. Like I didn't take Bijon as high as maybe other people would because this team is not in. the red zone a lot. They control the pace of the game. Their defense is playing pretty well. They like to burn the clock like they won 1613. I like a running back on a team that's going to score 30. So it just takes some ceiling away. Like Bijan will probably have, I would guess, two big ceiling games rest of you. Yeah. And then a bunch of consistency. I do think he will be very consistent, very reliable, a great fantasy asset, one that you could kick the tires on a cheap acquisition.

Just, you know, offer something kind of crappy because. Brees, Hall, or Bijon? Rest of season rankings. Jason Moore's, I'm only asking for two rankings, Bijons and Breeses in order. I would take, oh, man, I think I go Brees and then Bijon. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I lean Bijon by a, by a, it's very, very close. A smidge. Dishon Watson left early. They think it's due to the shoulder injury. He left due to a concussion check. Didn't get cleared to return. No, he did get cleared. Sorry, he did get cleared to return. He was doing rotator cuff exercises on the sideline. The two balls that he threw for interceptions were, I mean, indications of a shoulder injury, I would say, because.

They both just died. They didn't even get halfway there. Yeah, the play that he got the concussion on, or I guess did not get a concussion, but was, you know, it looked like it. And he got evaluated for it. I guess that interception got called back, right? Yeah, but it was, it should have been. But my goodness. My goodness. All the, all the, the worry and, you know, injury and all that, that was after the play was done. Like, that wasn't what caused. this egregious pass. He rolls out. He buys time and he throws this ball that is the same exact pass that I would do. Oh, 100%. I mean, it was slow, not on target and should have, I mean, been the easiest interception of all time. Somehow he let the ball hit the ground, but Deshaun Watson doesn't look right. And they were playing very poorly. They were getting stomped.

The backup comes in, and they're moving the ball, and that game was wild. They won. They won again. Miles Garrett. Oh, mercy. They gave up 456 yards on defense in 38 points to Gardner Minshew, and they won the ball game with a backup quarterback and Miles Garrett in turnovers and fumbles. It was a really entertaining game. I've never seen a more dominant, bad defensive performance. It was... Yeah, I mean, the fantasy-wise, they scored 17 fantasy points and gave up almost 500 yards. Yeah, every play was either horrific or incredible defensively. Speaking of the Browns, Jerome Ford, high ankle sprain after Jason, he had him as a start of the week. He had a huge touchdown run, so he delivered. And now he's in a protective boot, and it doesn't seem like Jerome Ford's going to be on the field. Yeah. Which means Kareem the Dream is going to have his chance. Seems most likely. Luke Musgrave exited.

With an ankle injury. Now, he wasn't the guy you put into your lineup instead of Pat Friermuth who was injured, right? No, he was. He sure was. He was the guy that I picked over Pat Friermuth as the start of the week and had five targets and four receptions but got the ankle injury and that stunk. Well, Austin Echler did turn his left ankle and not perform yet again. Yeah, also in my lineup. Jalen Hertz left. His left knee looked a little banged up. He played the second half with a brace. monitor it this week. Gerald Everett, quad injury, Jalen Waddle. I mean, Jalen Waddle at this point, you know they have the medical tent? There should be a separate one. And it should be Jalen's place. And he should go hang out there. He's got a nameplate, at least on the blue tent. Jalen Waddle's tent. And maybe he allows other people to get checked out there too. I doubt there'd be room occupancy. You'd be in a waiting list. I mean, the back injury.

You know, he's on a heating pack in between drives. He is limping off the field constantly. This is a two-year thing. Oh, his entire NFL career is if he's healthy, he's injured. And you could say kudos to him. He plays through a lot of these injuries. You think one of his legs is longer than the other? Maybe it's just got to be something wrong. I can't remember. I mean, it used to be like LaShawn McCoy would always go off the field. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Paul Pierce. Yeah, just like, oh, he looks like he rolled his ankle, he'd limp off. Julio did that too. The next play and be absolutely fine. But Jalen Waddle having him, like as a fantasy manager, he's on my, my dynasty, my main dynasty roster. And it's like every single game is the exact same thing. I go, well, I lost Waddle. Yeah, yeah. He's playing again? If he's healthy, he's injured. Yes.

Christian McCaffrey's going to play tonight barring a pregame setback. And an update if people want to know where Mike and I's a matchup is. Mike did have Deontiformin. I did not have Deontiformin. Mike chose to wait on Christian McCaffrey, which was a wise decision that I tried to. Diswade? Yep, I sure did. Did you really try? Did you try to like? Yes, a little bit. Like, uh, did he have a backup plan of any kind? His, you want to know what his backup plan was? I asked him. Kyle use check. He was willing to wait on juice to get Christian McCaffrey. Wow. So, but I still have a chance to win. Jordan Addison and Christian McCaffrey just can't combine for five points. Okay. That's it. So you'll be watching real.

I'll be watching for about 23 seconds. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. This week's fantasy stud muffins. If you took a chance and played the much improved, constantly delivering for fantasy Detroit Lions defense, whoops, Lamar Jackson carved them up like a Christmas ham. offense looked like I think it was it was last week where we were talking about um I think it was on the Wednesday episode where we were asking what offenses do we think could turn it around yeah and be better I mentioned the Baltimore Ravens it looked like because they they have looked terrible they could not have looked better every everything they did worked every play worked

Every offensive like, oh, let's go deep to Zay Flowers. That play worked. Let's go. Let's hit Beckham. Let's hit Bateman. Let's hit Andrews. Let's go with a screen game. Let's let's have Lamar run. Every single thing they did was like, was like they knew what the Lions defensive play call was. And they called exactly what they need to. It was 21 for 27, 357 and 3, a rushing touchdown. And had the Lions done anything offensively? Lamar might have thrown for five or six. I mean, it was perfect passerating. He was a monster. This will sound so stupid, but you know what the key to the NFL is in being a good quarterback? Time in the pocket. Okay. I just, this weekend, it was just like, if you have a couple seconds, you decimate. The league is set up to where if you can protect the quarterback at all, they will carve you up. Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, offensive defensive lines.

You look at the best teams in the league. They're all going to have something in common with their offensive and defensive lines. They're good. I had the privilege of facing Patrick Mahomes in both of our main leagues. 32 for 42, 424 and 4. Yeah. So I'm on the losing end of both of those matchups. This was the type of matchup you really wanted for Mahomes because, you know, you thought the chargers could keep up. It was divisional now. They've got Denver. Great. bad defense that, you know, I think his is going to be really, really safe, maybe not the ceiling, and then Miami. So it's going to be juicy here for Mahomes. There were three quarterbacks in the made mistakes, but crushed for your fantasy team, Lists, Gardner Minchew had four total touchdowns, 305, two on the ground, two through the air. Josh Allen, he did, he did, this is, this is what I was getting at with the comment earlier, was watching the Buffalo game. Mm-hmm.

in contrast to the time that Lamar had. And Josh Allen has to make the world's greatest play on every play to succeed. He tried very hard to do that, but the past protection for Josh Allen this year has not been there. Two touchdowns, one rushing. And then Jalen Hertz, two touchdowns, one rushing. Where are you on the tush push? You know. Controversy. Are you pro push? I am pro push. I know you. Now how much of that is just you want it there for Hertz who's like your quarterback. There's at least 10% of me that the whole reason I like it is because of what it allows Jalen Hertz to do as a fantasy quarterback. They have to gain eight and a half yards per first down for what it's worth. That's legitimately like the Eagles play in a league where they have to gain eight and a half. Yeah. But so can everyone else. They just choose not to. I love the rule. I like I like when people find superpowers.

I like Superman. He's the best. Like, this play is awesome. Yeah, it's not. It's not stoppable currently. But there's, I mean, I really do believe that people can figure it out. Maybe. I don't know if they'll have to. I don't think it's staying around. No, they're getting rid of it for sure. This offseason, the NFL will say that you can't push offensive players or something. wild like that. Deontiforman at running back. I didn't want to get into it earlier because I knew he was going to be here in the studs. 16 for 89, scored three total touchdowns. He played fewer snaps than Darrington Evans. Did you know that? I did not know that. Obviously, he had the carries. So when he was on the field, he was getting the ball. But he had a couple of plays that were just, just man plays. I mean, you know, he looked great. He jumped over. He tackles. Hurdle a guy.

You know, he looked like the Deontiformin I've always really loved. The negative, and you were on him, which is so ironic because you got destroyed by him. But you, from the beginning of the week, you didn't, you were questioning our view of the snaps and situation there in Chicago because we had watched the week before. And it was pretty much the same kind of breakdown. What happened differently this week was the Chicago Bears dominated the Raiders. Yeah. Bilbo. you know, was dominant and the Raiders were awful. And so this was perfect for Deontiformin. There you go. I guess we'll take a quick break and come back and talk about the greatest wide receiver at the running back position you've ever seen. All right, Alvin Camara, 14 targets, 12 more catches. We talked about it reacting to the Thursday night game, but he is a must start right now. Yeah, he's perfect for fantasy and terrible for the Saints. Well, hopefully you finally.

Got what you wanted from Jemir Gibbs. He had a rushing touchdown. He was 11 for 68 on the ground. He had 10 targets. He had 58 receiving yards. He played 87% of snaps. It was a bad game for the Lions. It was a good game if you had Gibbs or Al Monroe. Yeah, I mean, this is everything you dream of. Him getting that kind of market share, still being involved like the last time in week three that we saw him in this role. They didn't really pass the ball to him. They used them on the ground, 17 carries. But this game, they actually used him multifaceted, used his skill sets as a receiver. It's great for fantasy. Las Vegas next week? Yeah, I think you're going to stay in the flames here. The expectation has been from me that David Montgomery will miss this next week against the Raiders. Then they've got their buy week and we'll be back for the Chargers. This, uh,

This performance is sitting at number three on the week for running backs. Hopefully this is the beginning for Jemir Gibbs. He's averaging five a carry this year. It's not going to stay like this. Like when David Montgomery comes back, they want David Montgomery to be the primary ball carrier. I think that's been established. What's nice is this was not dependent on 20 carries, at least. You're right. Montgomery is great. But this was 11 carries. This was a bad game for them, and yet he still produced. So Vegas, the by week, and then the Chargers, the Bears, the Packers. We'll see what happens with Gibbs, but it was nice to see a sign of life. Gus Edwards. He had a monstrous 80-yard reception. Yep. I mean, they just got him wide open. It is very.

very, very hard in the NFL to have an 80-yard reception that you don't get a touchdown on. He did it. It's almost impossible, but he found a way. Yep. That was enough. He did get a rushing touchdown, 14 carries and looked good against maybe the best run defense in the NFL. I mean, there was nothing that the Baltimore Ravens did that didn't work. The ground game worked, the receiving game work. Tell me. Do you think that was a one-off or do you think that the Ravens are going to click with the new coordinator and the talent they have? I think you're going to see some more of this. I do. I mean, it was as perfect as it could go, but I do. I think this was a big moment for the team. And you have everybody healthy. Like we do have everybody healthy at the moment in the receiver room. The Jonathan Taylor.

Jonathan Taylor had 18 carries for 75 yards in a touchdown. Do you know who also had 18 carries? Tell me. Zach Moss. He also had 18 carries for 57 yards, no touchdown. What about the snap breakdown? 51? Wait, that can't. Oh, yeah, 51 and 51. So they both played the same amount of snaps, got the same amount of carries, a 50, 50 timeshare. Is that going to continue rest of season, or will the transition be made to Jonathan Taylor to be the dude? Boy, this game, when you were watching it, it felt like it had two extra quarters in it. It just went on forever. I mean, the fact you had almost, what, 36 carries on the ground between the two? I don't think it continues at a 50-50 split, but it's not going to be much different. 55-45. It'll be close. Zach Moss will steal a touchdown sometimes, and you'll be like, it was a good game for Jonathan Taylor. He's in the studs. But can you keep starting Zach Moss? I think you can keep flexing Zach Moss. If the matchup is...

What, this was a bad matchup, right? Yeah, this was a terrible matchup. It's really bad next week against New Orleans. But it hasn't hurt you to keep rolling them out there. Yeah. He had one catch. That was the piece from the week before that was better. Yeah, yeah. Sequin, big day, 21 for 77 scored. They won. Jerome Ford, we talked about it. James Cook, 13 for 56 on the ground, three for 46 and a touchdown through the air. He had 73% of the snaps. Now, Murray had 45%. So they were both out there together sometimes. Cook lining up. Like, did you see the postgame conference, though, from Josh Allen? No. Wasn't a good mood. Really? He didn't like losing to the Patriots? No, didn't like it. Interesting. But, you know, he was so unhappy, and he came out and just said, like, if we knew what was wrong, we'd fix it. And it's pretty bleak right now.

is what he said. But that the, you know, they're going to work to figure it out. But it's true. Like here's a game where James Cook was very effective. Dalton Kincaid was very involved. Got involved, was used downfield, had a lot of yards. Gabe Davis lost directions to the stadium. Right. He ended up somewhere Walmart or I don't remember where he ended up. Target. Stefan Diggs is Diggs. I mean, he scored. Diggs had a great game. Then they got beat. by the one in whatever Patriots at that point. Yeah. And you saw the news that Belichick has, he secretly signed a long-term extension? Yeah, I guess that answers that. He gets to coach there as long. He could never win a game again. He's earned the right to coach there until he says, I'm, I'm not going to coach. Jerome Ford had the big play cream hunt, had two rushing touchdowns and looks to be the guy right now. Although tomorrow's show, waivers. Yep.

Get your Peer Strong waiver claims ready. Because you saw a lot of Peer Strong in that game late. Yeah, it's not going to be 100% Kareem Hunt for sure. And this Cleveland rushing offense is one. We wanted to target heavily at the beginning of the season, obviously primarily because of Chubb. But they also have a really good defense and they want to run the ball. If I had to Sean Watson, I'd want to run the ball. And then I think you missed Travis Etyn for the third week in a row. has two rushing touchdowns. Yeah, that was the Thursday game. I could just tell you, I really, really like getting two rushing touchdowns from my players. Every week. Every week. It's been nice. And then Sunday live, we talked about the Zach Evans situation because Darrell Henderson shows up here on the studs list, 18 for 61 and 1 off the couch. Yeah, he's going to be the dude for the next few weeks. That was the pickup to make. We brought it up after the waiver show. Obviously, when we recorded the waiver show,

He was not yet on the roster. Yeah, harder to recommend. Right. Although I believe, I'm going to credit Brooks. He came wandering into our office, as he often does, just whistling and, you know, enjoying his workday. And he said, what if they had Daryl Henderson? Yeah. And then they did. Little known fact. We actually have to tell Brooks when we sit down to record, stop whistling. He's usually always whistling. Constantly whistling. But it's bad for the audio product. It's when you're wealthy. What else are you going to do? Whistle while you walk? Darrell Henderson, though, looks like, you know, Zach Evans, I think had one snap or zero. Zach Evans was demarcato. It's crazy because you have to imagine Zach Evans like, like we were on it early and, you know, I told people on Sunday live don't play. Like Henderson's likely to lead the group, but you could probably play Royce Freeman who got work. Freeman got 43% of snaps. 12 carries 66 yards himself. How does that feel?