Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 6 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Coopin'

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Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ah, get out the way, Jay Gris! Get out the way! Daddy's back! Oh, it is good to be back. I am excited. I am happy to be here. And you two gentlemen did an absolutely outstanding job, a bang-up job.

All week long. Thanks, Dad. I listen to it. Always makes you feel good when your dad tells you you did a good job. I listen to every episode. I appreciate you giving me time with my family. We had a nice trip. We spent a day in, two days in Disneyland. One day covered in Ash. Yeah. In Disneyland, which was just unbelievable. And while I was at Disneyland, I was actually naive to the fact that.

The fires were happening so close. I think there was a second fire in the Anaheim Hills as well. I think that's what we saw in Disneyland. And it looked like out here in Arizona, we have what are called haboobs, big dust storms that blow in. We're just in Disneyland and the wind starts blowing. And you look up and it's apocalyptic, right? Like the sun's blotted out. And then all of a sudden, ash starts falling for the rest of the day. Awesome. Stay safe out there, California. Yeah, absolutely tragic. Some of the stories coming out of California. So thoughts and prayers with.

Those families and those, I have my cousin, her brother, lost his home in California. So just incredible, really snuck up on everybody there. I mean, there was just no warning. But yeah, I'm excited to be back. I appreciate you guys kicking butt. I'm surprised you let Jay Gris get away with the level of profanity that I heard on this show. He's a giant bear. You don't tell him what to do.

He's not going to do what he does. Really nice call on Zach Miller by Jay Griss. Oh, it was. Yeah. Delightful. We're going to get into so much on the show today. We have a great quick question. We're going to talk through the Aaron Rogers situation. We got the studs and the duds on the show. We have a rising stars. It is good to be back and talking football. I'll tell you that. So you can follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. Happy to say, Jason, you took care of the over-under bet. Yeah, you think?

I could have almost doubled it. Yeah, that was incredible. The Saints. Five defensive or special teams touchdowns in that game. This week, I stand by my process. Once again, I mean, this week just proves that the NFL, unless you're the Browns, you can win any week. You're the Giants. You're going to Denver. You have four wide receivers out. Goodness. You handle.

The Broncos. You handle them. And Orleans Darkwa. Orleans Darkwa goes for 100 plus on this vaunted run D in Denver. I mean, did you see the other non-Evin Ingram receivers? Did you see them try to catch? I did. Oh, man. It reminds me of me trying to catch. I would say it like our flag football leagues. The ball, you know, it hits them before they realize it's there. It was incredible. And so you would think that the Broncos knew what was coming, which was.

to run the ball, but unbelievable game. So, all right, here's a quick question for today's show. All right, we have the Aaron Rogers News, broken collarbone. That was my starting quarterback in League of Record. Likely, or possible, he misses the rest of the season. He's at least out for months. He's out for probably the duration of the fantasy season for most owners. All right, so what do you do? This one came in off of...

Twitter, seen a ton of these. What do you do with the Packers receivers in running backs? What is your thought process when something like this happens? I mean, we are experiencing the lack of Andrew Luck in Indianapolis. What do we do with Jordy Nelson, Devante Adams, and everybody else there? Yeah, so we don't have any experience with Randall Cobb or Devante Adams playing without Aaron Rogers outside of, you know, the...

end of last game. Jordy has a few games eight without him and you've seen a split that makes sense. Average 18 points with Aaron Rogers, 15 points without him, which is still pretty good. Jordy will remain the one. Devante Adams is probably the guy that scares me the most because he's always been touchdown reliant.

and I can bank on Aaron Rogers for getting up near 40 touchdowns. I'm not going to feel confident that the touchdowns are going to flow as much. So I want more of the possession type, the Randall Cobb, the Jordy Nelson, but expectations have to go down for everyone. The one thing that I'm not as concerned about is the running back situation. Now, the situation itself is a little concerning because now it looks like more of a timeshare, but I think that the team is going to have to rely on

those running back weapons a little bit more, and they're both capable. Yeah, the only caveat there seems to be the defense and whether or not that defense can hold up against any of these offenses because then you press your backup, whether it's Hunley, whether it's someone else that comes onto this roster, which I think is very possible with the roster that they have that they might bring in. Tony, Roma. Oh, no way. Oh, man, that would be fun.

That would be a huge loss for us all. Tony Rom was killing the announcing. Did you see? They asked him. But this was before anything happened with Aaron Rogers. And they were talking about his final touchdown pass. Oh, yeah. And he was joking. And he said, are you sure? Are you sure it's my final touchdown? But regardless, if you're pressed into a situation where they have to pass, that's the concern here where yesterday, right? I mean, they were down throughout the game.

They lost the game to the Vikings, and they couldn't make plays in the passing game. Many interceptions. Many interceptions by Hundley. Do you, to me, it's kind of a tier down per player is the way I look at that. Pretty much. You know, Jordi goes from being a high-end one to maybe a high-end two to me, and then Adams goes from maybe a high-end two to, you know, two-three cusp player. Yeah, I can agree with that. Rob. Cobb is, becomes.

Probably unstartable. Who knows? I mean, Jason's right. I mean, maybe the rapport is there with Cobb and he's just going to take those short and intermediate throws. That's what he'll latch onto. At this point, it's really hard to say except for it's a downgrade. Are you willing to trade them? Are you downgrading them enough to where you say, hey, if I can get value for Randall Cobb and switch him, switch him.

You're getting 50 cents on the dollar right now for any of those guys. It's unfortunately the wrong time to do it because nobody's going to receive an offer with Jordy Nelson in it and not know why you're making it right now. Do you think you could transfer like Devante Adams type into Jarvis Landry? Yeah, that you might be able to pull off because Adams did score. I mean, he scored with Hunley. So maybe this is the time. That might be the thing to do. All right. All right. Let's get into the rewind.

Weekly Rewind. Well, if you look at the bottom of the quarterback rankings, you see some names there, like Aaron Rogers, who obviously had like about a point with the injury. James Winston. They should just pro-rate. Take his score and pro-rate it for the whole game. I was so tilting because I made the joke. I was like, how selfish of Aaron Rogers not to break your collarbone in the fourth quarter of the matchup. How dare you? But that's...

Fantasy football. I mean, you can't, there are moves you make and you look back at the week and you go, oh, man, I was so dumb to start this player or that player. And then there are things that happen where you go, you've got to put your hands in there and just say, hey, I lost Aaron Rogers. He broke his collarbone. Not my week. And you move on. And you know what? The truth is when you lose Aaron Rogers. It's a lot, people won't want to hear it, but it is a lot easier to replace Aaron Rogers.

than it is to replace a David Johnson or a running back or a wide receiver of a high caliber because you're able to stream the position off of waivers and get a guy with the top six performance weekly patching it together. He is much easier to replace. That being set, I think the people, the Foot Clan need to know about something that has happened behind the scenes. We know that David Johnson was on Andy's team, the Fantasy Reaper, and he went down. Well, Andy... Stop it.

Andy acquired Aaron Rogers. The people have a right to know, Andy. And Aaron Rogers went down. But Andy has said, I'm not going away. I'm not going away. And he made big moves this week for Carson Winst and LaShawn McCoy. So we put it out there. This is Madden Cover talk. You're the new Madden cover. Yes, you are. Oh, man. Hey, look. I wanted to defend myself, but I feel like I will.

proliferate the curse. Like I wanted to start naming players that have not been hurt from my team. Yeah, but I feel like if I bring them up, it's trouble. Yes, I've acquired Carson Winsles, my Aaron Rogers replacement in a Keeper League. I had to, you know, I'm four and two. I'm competing. I need to go get another guy. The irony is because of this game from Rogers and the game that Wince had, Wins will actually have a higher ranking on the year than Rogers will before. You upgraded.

No, I didn't. All right, James Winston is another player. You've got to throw your hands up, right? Forced from Sunday's game against the Cardinals with an injury to the throwing shoulder early in that game. What's the latest on James? We don't have a full update, but he was seen on the sideline throwing the ball and looked, it looked like it was possible for him to go back in, but I mean, that game was just 31 to nothing. It got out of hand very quickly to the point of, sure, we'll try and come back with Fitzpatrick, but.

Don't risk the franchise quarterback. Seemingly, I would, he should play next week. So that's the positive news on Winston when you're not looking at a multi-week absence. Trevor Simeon left briefly in the week six matchup against the Giants. I don't know what percentage of quarterbacks are injured on plays trying to tackle a defensive back that is running down the sideline, but it seems like it's a 50-50 shot. You're going to be hurt. That's why you see guys like Peyton and they just go.

Nope. Right this way, my good sir. Enjoy your touchdown. Yeah, I'm going to stay healthy. Simeon tried to make the tackle, got his, hurt his shoulder. Saw that with Cutler, right? A couple years ago got injured the same way. Andy Dalton broke his thumb during his, that MVP run. Trevor Simeon status. He hurt his shoulder. Came back in. Yes, he came back in the game. He's going to have an MRI today. We do know, though, that.

You need Trevor Simeon to be out there because we saw a little bit of Brock Osweiler coming in. Get the tight ends ready for Broncos. He was not good. Well, you also need wide receivers. Manuel Sanders, Demaris, Thomas. The Giants, like Andy's the new man cover. This is, this is facts. This is factual information. We know this. I feel like the Giants went like the ring on the Broncos. They just passed their wire. They said, hey, watch this videotape.