Other receivers worth talking about, I mean, Ted Ginn had a touchdown. I'm not reading much into that. It was a while ago, but Kelvin Benjamin, I still thought, looked good. He was the clear number one target. 13 targets. Tight ends. Let's talk about some tight ends. I mean, Cameron Brate does it again. He's great. Brate is great. Brate is great. Six for 76 and a touchdown. Evan Ingram, five for 82 in a touchdown. We got him on the wall this morning.
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 6 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Coopin'
Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 6 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Coopin'
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154 passagesbecause he's doing work for Mike's dynasty team. So Mike wanted to come in here and frame him up. And your League of Record team. And my League of Record team. Austin Svarian Jenkins. Oh, man. So he is the number one target for the New York Jets. Oh, I thought I was like, is he still available in the waiver wire? This is impossible. Let me ask you this. Rest of season with the landscape of tight ends, which you guys touched on a ton last week, where are Ingram, Brate, and Jenkins? Like if you had to handicap.
what their position will be rest of season. You've got Gronk at the top. He was 6.83 and 2. He's the done deal. But with Reed hurt, no Eifford. I think I'm going like 8, 9, 8, 9, 10. And I think I would order those Brate ASJ Ingram. 8, 910. Yeah. That's.
That's interesting. Maybe 7-8-9. I'd have him a lot higher. I'd have to count on my fingers who would be ahead. You got Kelsey ahead. I would still have Kelsey ahead. Sure. Jimmy Graham, I would probably still go ahead. You put Graham ahead? I would. I think Evan Ingram has top five potential rest of the season with the fact that they lost four receivers. Yeah, I think that plays into it huge. I still would have Brate ahead of him, but I'd go I'd go Brate Ingram. I got to give you a lot of credit, Mike. You, you.
Talked Brate up through the O.G. Howard pick. Just, you know, and Jason, you've talked about the blocking of O.J. Howard. Now Bray gets to focus on being this center of the field target, good hands, red zone monster. Very impressive. The scheme loves them. Monster defensive weeks from the Saints, Texans, Rams, and Ravens. Specifically, I mean, the Texans destroyed Kevin Hogan. The Saints, they got it done. Three defensive touchdowns.
And we talked about the Ravens. They took care of the Chicago Bears and Trubisky. Those are matchups you're looking at next week. You know, you look at Cleveland. You look at Chicago. You're always going to look at Cleveland. That's part of why I had picked up Tennessee this week at home against Indianapolis is because next week they play the Cleveland Browns, which is always a good play. All right, moving on. Raising Cains, Rising Stars of the Whig.
All right, it's time for our rising stars. I alluded to it earlier. I'm going with Delvin Cook Jr. Also known as Jerich McKinnon. Also known as a man that deserves an apology from me. Yeah. He does look. I think the biggest man in the room right now. Jason Moore. I think Jerich McKinnon. Biggest gummy in the room. Sure. That's fine. I usually am.
Derek McKinn and I have thrown a lot of shade on you. Yeah, you have. I have never believed. Your spark scores great. You're an athletic freak, but you're not a good football player. Except. You are. Maybe you are because you've looked great. You've won me over. He would have been my rising star for not yours. Sorry to hijack. No, that's fine. Look, I made the calculated decision.
a few weeks back to not pay a dollar for LaSavius Murray and to buy Jerich McKinnon for the free price because the fatigue. I think everyone who got McKinnon got him basically free. It's the McKinnon fatigue that Jason suffered from. He needed some medicine to get over it because look, we have. We have seen the excitement before. But this is a better offense. This is a much better offensive line. And I want the player that fills the cook role, which is I'm going to catch the ball. I'm also going to run the ball. His efficiency versus.
Latavius Murray, I believe, through two games, 5.1 a carry for McKinnon, 2.2 a carry for Latavius Murray, got it done in the goal line, got it done in the passing game, got it done for two weeks in a row. Jerich McKinnon. He had to clean up Murray's goal line mess. He did, and I want to say this. McKinnon now is a candidate as a league winner. I mean, he's the guy that if he's out there on waivers by some, he's not. There's no way. There's no way. But I think he has the potential to be an RB2 rest of the season. I would agree.
I would agree. He's my rising star. Go ahead, Jay. I'm going with another guy that I was. Do you owe an apology? I don't own a huge apology because I've liked him before, but I.
I was a little worried. I was a little worried this week. Yeah. Because if he was the only target in town, maybe the Denver Broncos would actually show up to play a game of football. But Evan Ingram, we've talked about him all day. He's my rising star because it's clear that he is going to be so involved. And I think it's also clear that the truth is.
I don't think defenses are always going to be able to stop him. Now, certain personnel will be able to match up easier. We know that the Denver Broncos defense, while great, has usually been able to be beat with the tight end. And we saw why last night. And Evan Ingram, he's going to be too involved and he is too talented to go back to the waiver. So he is my rising star of the week. I want to, when you look at tight ends that are athletically gifted, Rob Gonkowski.
In the past, I mean, you see these guys, he's super fast. If you line him up in the slot, who's playing on him? Are you moving a linebacker out? No, if you move a DB, they're too small. This is the mismatch that certain athletically gifted tight ends give you. And one of the reasons that I like him more than Austin Safarian Jenkins for rest of season is because of the yardage and big playability. If you get him the ball on a little crossing route, he can turn the corner.
where Austin's varying Jenkins is like 5.5 per catch. You're getting six, seven catches. You're getting 40-something yards. With Ingram, I like the big play potential because he gives you kind of what, you know, Jordan Reed could do in an offense, what you see sometimes with Zach Ertz. That's why I like Ingram more than ASJ, but I think both are very good options. And look, the Giants surprised everybody last night with that win, no doubt about it. Yeah, they did. My rising star of the week is someone.
He has risen many, many times like the Phoenix. He's like a, yeah. And now he's in Phoenix. And now he is in Phoenix. Adrian Peterson, you have to give the man his due off of this week. He, oh man. I mean, when Adrian Peterson, his, he eats hate hate doubt. He consumes it. It fuels his body. I mean, and there was no.
larger, even coming off of his, his, the knee injury coming off of that, it was nothing compared to the disrespect that he has felt from Sean Peyton, who wouldn't use him in the offense and the entire, the public perception that Adrian Peterson was done. He has fueled him. So, I mean, he has expended so much that once again, he had to get.
oxygen very, very frequently on the sideline. Interesting question. Do you think it's possible that the Saints regret their trade in any way, shape, or form? I understand he's not a fit for their system, right? But their system has to win them games and has to be successful as well. You saw what he has left in the tank. I don't think so at all. In fact, I think the fact that it's a conditional pick.
means that they want him to succeed with Arizona because it'll be a better pick. I guess at the end of the day, I guess it was just dumb to bring him in at all. Yes. Because if you're not going to give him what he needs to succeed, you just made a dumb decision. Well, that was a general. I feel like that was a general manager, not consulting with a coach. You know, it's like, oh, I like this guy. I'm going to sign him. And then it just doesn't fit. Rest of season. I'm going to put you on the spot, Mike, with this Adrian Peterson love. Chris Thompson, Adrian Peterson.
Rest of season. I would take Peterson. Carlos Hyde, Adrian Peterson, rest of season. I would take Carlos Hyde. Jason's like, we're two for two. We're two for two in a green. Time Montgomery or Adrian Peterson rest of season. Oh, fat. Man. Oh, I'm going to go Montgomery. The ribs freak me out, but the scheme is going to have to. It has to benefit Montgomery. Exactly. Adrian Peterson or Amir Abdullah, rest of season. That's,
Pretty close. I'm going to go Peterson for the touchdown. Wow. That's what I. That's what I. We were in. We're in sync here? The whole thing. You guys became best friends last week. Did we just become best friends? I loved the feedback. People loved the show. I likened it to the situation where like, you know, I let my kids eat cake for an entire week. You know, it tastes delicious. Eventually you were going to probably throw up and get sick. But, um.
It was a good week. It was a good week of cake, guys. Look, those were the Raising Cains Rising Stars of the Week. Don't forget the game day tastes better. By the way, it tastes better for us yesterday. You're doing right in too. With Raising Cain's full of fresh 24-hour, marinated hand-battered chicken fingers, and fresh-brewed sweet tea. Visit raising canes.com. Find your nearest location. Get the sauce. I have to let the footclane know about something. Before we talk, pooped in their big boy pants. I need to let people know about what's happening tonight. Welcome to fantasy football and the fun of fantasy football. Yes.
In our League of Record, Jason and Mike are taking one another on this week. Mono v. Mono. Oh, yeah, I heard that too. That was nice. I am very entertained. Like, tonight's matchup on paper. Now, Mario is supposed to go, by the way. I don't know why we didn't bring that up. He's supposed to play tonight. This is what I'm hearing. So he'll be back. So quick, if Mario, if you have Mario, and Brissette, if Mario does, you're going with him? Yes. Okay, correct. I have Marioita in our League of Record, by the way. Nice.
Congratulations. I do. And why did you trade for Wins? I brought that up because I signed Marietta at 9 o'clock this morning. I see. I dropped a bi-week defense to get him because he was still available. Nice. Here's what's going on tonight. Jason and Mike are taking one another on. Jason has one player left. He is down by 5.9 points. And he has the Tennessee Titans defense. One of the just more exciting defenses that you can have.
And he needs six points. So root for me, America. So Jason's my division mate, so I'm a big Colts fan tonight. But this is what makes fantasy football so fun, a Monday night game that maybe you had a little interest in. I know last night, I was talking to somebody, a friend of mine, and he's like, oh, this game's going to be terrible, this Giants game. I'm like, no, fantasy football. I'm like, I'm interested. I got Evan Ingram. I want to see what happens. So you can follow along with us, and either Mike or Jason will be crying at the end of the night. So let's talk poopers.
Pooped in his big boy pants. Still one of the greatest privileges of my life that I have a job in which that is a part of my weekly routine. I get to say let's talk poopers. And poopers we shall talk. Brian Hoyer. Benched. Goodbye. Joe Flacco. His drawers have been poopy for weeks upon weeks. Yeah. Get that man a baby wipe. Yeah. In fairness, I don't think Hoyer or Flacco.
actually have big boy pants. He's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. But for fantasy football, if you were starting either of those guys, I mean, you're more likely to have been starting Hoyer. Yeah, you weren't starting them. All right, here are some actual big boy pants you were starting. Derek Carr and Matt Ryan. Derek, Derek Carr, yet again, against division foes is garbage. We get, of all the players we got a lot of hate on, our downgrade of Carr a few weeks ago.
It received a lot. People love Derek Carr. I love Derek Carr. Yes. He's a great dude. He's a good raccoon. He's a great dude, solid raccoon. Solid raccoon. But at the end of the day, Mike has said it for months. The division, it's not kind to him. Because the numbers are there. And this Derek Carr has not succeeded going downfield. Here's the thing. Amari Cooper has disappeared. He's the downfield threat. It's the long con.
Yeah. It's a long time for the Raiders. Well, you've got Kansas City Buffalo the next two weeks. Stay away from Derek Carr. Dump him. Wave him. I'd rather have Mario. I'd rather have any of these other options. Mount Ryan, however, he gets the salve. That is the New England defense next week. And then the Jets and then Carolina. All three on the road, however, what do you do with Matt Ryan right now? You just kind of lock and load him? You play him. Matt Ryan's a QB1 that you play every week. And the Patriots.
That's delightful. You might even be able to trade for Matt Ryan on the cheap. That would be what to do right there. Yeah, if you got Aaron Rogers and he went down and you're in a keeper league. I want to plug and play quarterback. I don't want to do the stream. That's not part of how you want to play. Go get Matt Ryan. Yeah. Yeah. All right. They lost by the way. Yeah, they did. Smoking J. Cutty. He's back. He didn't even care.
