I don't, I mean, we've seen the, we've got a whole year to look at how they've used Freeman. They just didn't need them. They didn't give them the work. Some more of the carries went Kevin Coleman's way. I don't think that that's a prescription. I think that was based on what happened. That being said, this coming week, you could see that game script happening again against, you know, another terrible team where Tevin Coleman does take over like, like you spoke about in the Rising Stars.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 14 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Playoff Madness
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 14 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Playoff Madness
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129 passagesyou know, I would still be happy to start both of those guys next week. Yeah. Ingram Hightower, terrible. Just terrible. Game script was awful in that one. Well, the Tampa Bay run defenses. They're great. They're fully great. Devante Booker, J. J. Jai, and Spencer Ware let you down. Let me ask you guys this. Do you think that Thomas Rawls let people down this week? I don't think so.
Thomas Rawls. Because the game script hurt him bad. He might have disappointed. He was 12 for 67 or something like that. Especially while you watched because he was running fantastic. He looked great. Every carry, he looked like what you hope for. But then the Seahawks were down so much. I mean, they lost the game 38 to 10. I remember a halftime telling you, Andy, like.
You don't think the Seahawks are actually going to get blown out. I mean, they just don't finish games getting blown out, and they did. So the game took him out, but he played well, and he did enough. You know, in our league of record format, he was basically at about 10 points where definitely a disappointment for what he could have done, but didn't completely poop your team. The guy I want to talk about is RIP for fantasy, Devante Booker, three for one. Goodbye. He had two for ten. Goodbye.
Here's the problem with Devante Booker and the confidence that the team has in him. Justin Forset, off the couch. He had the bag of Doritos. He's just chilling on the couch, and then Kubes calls him up, says, hey, I need you, my man. I need you. Comes in, fumbles on his first carry, Justin Forset, and they still go with Justin Forset. Kubiak goes with Justin Forset after the fumble.
This is just you can't, you can't start Booker. This is one of those situations where, no, Booker is done. You're right. I think you probably, I mean, I mean, the schedule does not look good, right, for the Broncos coming up run wise. They're playing New England and Kansas City.
to finish out these next two weeks of playoffs. I'm not really starting Justin Forset, even though he seems to be the guy. I think what this says is that if you're in a keeper league, make sure you go pick up CJ Anderson. CJ Anderson, meanwhile, is just laughing hysterically. I doubt it. His team's losing. They're not going to make the playoffs. All he cares about is fantasy. You know that, Andy. It's funny because he's the one guy that hates fantasy so much. It's all a ruse. You know what?
Listeners were right. We could have spoke about poopers the entire show. Yep. I mean, I'm looking at this wide receiver list. Did you guys hear still scrolling? When the quarterbacks were that bad, obviously even more wide receivers are bad. Did you guys hear Paceman Jones talking about Terrell prior? I heard he referred to him as garbage. Garbage. Listen. Garbage. Aside from Terrell, how big is it for you guys? Garbage. I'm happy we won. Terrell Pride, garbage.
Yeah, he had some strong opinions. Come on now. That was exactly accurate if you talk about fantasy production. Trell Pryor, Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald disappeared. Nothing from Alan Robinson. Kelvin Benjamin, nothing. Now those are you. Andre Hopkins. I mean, do I have to, I'm going to keep talking until you interrupt me. Well, you finish this list. Randall, Brandon Marshall, Marty Cooper, Jameson, Crowder, Jeremy Macklin, Devante Parker, Richard Matthews. You might.
You might toss in Doug Baldwin. Yeah, he was a disappointment for sure. Six 446. I mean, this is a long list of names. Yeah, so let's pick out some guys to talk about. First, if you didn't watch the Miami-Arizona game, it was full monsoon. You can't really rain much more than it was raining there. So if you worry about it.
If you're going to rain, you can't rain more than that. So if you're worried about Larry, I think that that was really just the sloppy conditions. I mean, there's rain and then there's what happened there. That was like a hurricane is right next door. There was a hurricane throwing the ball to trial prior. And I have no confidence in prior moving forward after what I saw. I don't think you can. The guy that I have now no confidence in, I mean, zero, it's done. I cannot.
possibly recommend that you start him is Brandon Marshall. Good. That's the one I want to talk about. Brandon Marshall, you know, look, this was a great matchup against San Francisco. Well, Bryce Petty could not get the ball to him. Three for 33 in the best matchup imaginable. And now he goes to places not San Francisco. So you've got Miami, New England, and Buffalo the rest of the way.
Brandon Marshall is dropable. You don't need him. Please tempt your opponent. You're dropping him? I'm dropping unless it's a keeper league. And even then, I mean, Brandon Marshall could retire for all we know. They don't have a quarterback. Meanwhile, Robbie Anderson, 11 targets, six for 99. I mean, it's, that's just the worst situation for fantasy players is Brandon Marshall. The season vet, you know that he's elite. When he's on, he's an elite wide receiver.
But opportunity is the king of fantasy football, and Robbie Anderson is getting the opportunity. Would you play Anderson over Marshall? Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, Anderson is not a good player, and Marshall is great, but Marshall can't throw himself the ball. Or can he? No, I mean, that's well said. Calvin Benjamin, I mean, he's useless. Yes.
Yeah. Alan Robbins is useless. I think Larry Fitzgerald is an easy bounce back. Mike Evans is an easy bounce back, although he has a tough matchup in Dallas next week. But he's Mike Evans, so I'm not worried about him. I think Jameson Crowder is a good bounce back candidate. I definitely think Richard Matthews is a great bounce back candidate. We forget. He was playing Denver. I don't forget that. He gets the chiefs. Yeah, I will say that the chiefs are not, you know, exactly a great matchup this next week. Yeah.
I'm holding off on Matthews, but I agree about Crowder. I agree about Mike Evans, Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald should be able to turn it around in a big way at home against Norlands. And I would say Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree, Kansas City, you know, in Kansas City, they were primed for that game. And neither one of those wide receivers got it done. But the next two weeks of your playoffs, you got San Diego and Indianapolis.
Those are not defenses that frighten me. And I think one or both of those guys should have a big game the rest of the way. Just a reminder tomorrow's The Wave of Wire show. So hop on, get some insight there. I need Mike to speak to this next name. We're moving to tight ends. Yep. Good. And this has never happened before. I don't know if you want to make an entry. Oh, to the diary? Yeah. I mean, you're all right. Yeah. Look, Jordan Reed was one for 10.
And so here's the deal with Jordan Reed. All information coming from Washington, coming from beat writers, people who are plugged into the team. They said, yes, he is in very noticeable amounts of pain during practice. But in practice, you don't, you don't get the special sauce. You don't get the special game day sauce that makes. The objection into the muscle. That makes owies go away.
Right. And they said he's going to play. Is that available for fantasy owners, by the way? That's awesome. Yeah. Well, there's a sauce that makes out of his go away. Not recommended. Not recommended. They said, they said not only is he going to play. He is going to be massively involved. The Washington, look, they're in the playoff hunt. Yeah. They're fighting for their wild card lives. He is active.
And according to pro football focus, that rule has never been broke. He is, yeah, the rule 86 of if Jordan Reed plays, you play him. According to pro football, pro football, pro football focus, he was in for just 10 snaps. So this wasn't, this is what makes this so baffling is it was, he wasn't even a decoy. They didn't have him out there just let's pull some, the linebacker over here with Jordan Reed. He didn't really play. Because he didn't play. So they kept, they activated him.
and then just didn't use, they wasted his active roster spot. It was perplexing. So what do you do with him next week, Carolina? I'll play him. Okay. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to monitor the beat reporters because they're a bunch of liars. But they weren't liars of how he was doing. The Doug Peterson Gazette.
And so I'm going to focus more on how Jordan Reed is doing. And if Jordan Reed seems this week in practice that he is still majorly injured, as was kind of described, then I'm going to steer clear. Jimmy Graham just missed a 58-yard touchdown. His week reminded me a lot of Amari Cooper's, where there was one play that could have redefined the entirety of the week. It didn't go his way. Russell Wilson. Same with Doug Baldwin. Both of those guys missed a.
Russell Wilson overthrew both guys on a long touchdown by about two yards. Maybe you should introduce some, like, hypothetical points to your league, like near misses. So you would have Jimmy Graham and Doug Baldwin as easy bounce back guys for next week. Absolutely. Absolutely. Ladarius Green, this was a case of 38 carries to Levi-on Bell. He did have an in-zone target. He was two for 25. He had Cincinnati next week. Had an in-zone target.
Honestly, they just didn't need to throw the ball. And Ben Rothersburg was terrible. He was not throwing it well. This is what I was describing last week. He was on the road, by the way. And I told you how much I didn't like Big Ben in that game. When you are in the snowy conditions and the very cold in the 20s, the total points at fantasy production. I said this last week. It does not go away.
The points are there, the fantasy points are there, but it shifts from the passing game to the running game. To Levi-on-Bel. I know. Well, I told Mike last week, I was like, I have to move Levi-on-Bel up to number one. David Johnson was, but I go, Levi-on-Bel's going to go full ham in that weather. And so that's what happened with Ladarius Green. That's what happened with Antonio Brown, with Big Ben. It just all went to the running game. But for Lederus Green, if you're panicking, you're saying, I'm getting rid of him.
He was in for just 37% of the snaps. So, I mean, that's, his number went way down. On those snaps, though, just running on the, on the field, nearly 20% market share of the targets. That's, and a shout out to our man, late round QB, who tweeted about that. But so his, if he's on the field, he's probably getting a target. Yeah.
Yeah, I just think the game... I'm not scared to use them. Did not bend. So let's move on and talk about Monday night. We can... We can officially wipe the slate clean. Wipe. Wipe. I want to know what you got... We are six-year-old. We are six-year-olds. Yes, we are. Look, there's no choice. When you wake up and you need to find a toilet flushing file, it's... You know, you're...
having a bad week. All right, the Ravens and the Patriots tonight, guys. I want to know your take on this game. Who do you think wins this game, first of all? Patriots are six and a half point favorites. I'm not going against the Patriots. Me neither. I want to pick the Ravens. I don't think I have the courage to do it, but I will take the Ravens to cover. Yeah, I can see that. Close game. Low scoring. Sounds like a little bit of boom, boom opportunity. If you, if you have one of.
If you have one of the big fantasy names in this game, so let's call them Brady. Let's call it Blunt, Adelman, Signor. Mitchell, Signor Wallace. Who is the most likely to disappoint you tonight? For me, it's Smith. Okay. For me, it's same position on the other side of the ball, Malcolm Mitchell. For me, it's Legerat Blunt with the Ravens only giving up four rushing touchdowns on the year.
I like how I framed it not in who's going to deliver you a championship. I just said who's going to disappoint you. It's so negative today. No, we're trying not to be. I just flush it away. Let's go positive. So you guys, you think that Smith, senior, is the one that may struggle. Is there somebody in that passing game you have confidence in? No, and it's more of just a, the expectations for Smith as the one for that team. I'm just saying when I factor all that stuff in, that's why I think he could be the biggest disappointment.
