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Maybe we'll have some good preseason football today. Jason Morris here. I'm Andy Holloway. Jay Grizz in the house. I think we will. I think we will. This year seems like a lot of teams are going to be playing their starters this week. Deshaun Watson getting that first go, which is why Mike is not here. He is ill. Is that why he got sick? Yeah, he heard that news and just he hasn't been able to stop vomiting. Maybe we were tired of all that trash talk yesterday on the show.

Maybe we slipped a little something into his lunch. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Jay Gris wanted the attention. Somebody wanted the attention. That's the cardboard bear sitting in for Mike, Jay Gris. So we have a head-to-head mock draft today. We're going to kick the mayhem mock draft back a week. I'm sorry for those that we're looking forward to it, but we'll do a head-to-head mock draft. Jason v. myself? Yeah, I could tell you I wasn't one of those looking forward to it.

The mayhem? Well, because the mayhem is fun for everyone else, except for me and Mike. I agree. Because we have to deal with the mayhem, but we'll deal with that next week. Yeah, we got a lot going on. We got a segment today. Leader of the Pack we'll get into. We do have the UDK for Life giveaway going on right now, basically.

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You're already in there. So Monday, we will be pulling Monday the 24th. We'll pull the winner for the UDK for life. Yeah. And so if you're going to get it to get ready for your draft, do it now. Ultimate draft kit.com. Let's jump in, Jay. Leader of the Pack, presented by PetSmart. Deucer's Alley was rocking out like quite a bit to that drop right there. I saw some headbanging. Last week on Leader of the Pack, we talked through the Packers' wide receiver room situation.

We're going to do our best to crown the leader of the pack, basically who's going to win the fantasy relevant role on a certain team with a depth chart and a situation that's a little bit murky. This week is a challenge. This week, you talked about him, Deshawn Watson, Shadour Sanders, and whom else. It's the Brown's wide receiver room, which. There's a lot of them. Cedric Tillman, anybody? Oh, man, that dude's getting cut. Yeah, for sure. He's on that bubble.

I mean, this wide receiver room has been uninspiring for years. They did add two very talented rookie whiteouts, Denzel Boston, KC Concepcion, who is a favorite of many here in the studio. And you still have Jerry Judy as a piece of that offense. We know Harold Fandon is going to be a high percentage target share type of guy. But can we find value in the Browns wide receiver room? We've talked about Miami, right, where it's, you know,

It's even, it's hard to say that that is even a pack to have a leader of. This is one where you do have talent. Yes, a lot of talent. Yeah, I mean, the issue for both of these teams is you don't expect great offensive play. You don't necessarily expect to have a ton of passing volume at the end of the year, like how many total team yards, whoever the quarterback is, whether it's Chador, whether it's, um,

you know, Deshaun Watson or for Malik Willis in that case. Let's be honest, it's going to be multiples. Yes. Both situations, you're like, okay, you're hoping for 3,300 yards on a great, like, let's say Shador has a breakout season, turns into a real star. You know, 3,600 yards. I mean, I think Todd Monkin brings a ceiling to the passing game a little bit. I think they are a team with the defense taking a step backwards without Miles Garrett.

could be in a situation where these games are not. Like the games they won last year. What was it? Almost all one-score games that they were in, even the ones they lost. These games are 19 to 14 and stuff like that. There's a chance you throw the ball a little bit more than the expectation. But who comes out on top? I mean, right now the way that the way that I'm reading, and we have not talked about this. No. So I don't know if you're going to come out on the same side as me. The player I feel the most confident contributing to this offense right now is Dinsel Boston.

I like the talent of Casey Concepcion, but the way that the, like I think Denzel Boston will be a starter from day one. Concepcion should be as well. But my situation now is like I am leaning towards the big bodied receiver on the outside that's going to have the opportunity. What were these both? Concepcion was a late first. Boston was a second.

second round pick, but I mean, 39th overall. Yeah, these were... It's not a huge gap. These were two really high draft picks. They, you know, in my scouting, I had Concepcion as a first round talent, and I had Boston as a second round talent. I like Boston. They were both above a 75 score in my Felix model.

Concepcion was in the 80s, which is pretty darn good. I think the difference that you're saying between a team like Miami and here is there is talent. This is now, they've gone from last year. Their talent was Jerry Judy, so they had none. And now. Who is part of this pack? And honestly, we need to throw another name out. And that's Isaiah Bond, who's also been making noise. He was supposed to be a highly drafted wide receiver last year, had some off-the-field issues.

went to the Browns. And now this offseason has been making noise. So between Concepcion, Boston, Jerry Judy, Isaiah Bond, and Fanon, this could be, this is a very talented skill position group. I still lean on the Concepcion side. I think that he is the most talented player. Obviously, the Capitol was there. He's dealt with a couple small injuries through camp.

I don't blame you. If you want to take the Boston side. Let me tell you the thought process. Can I guess it? Go ahead. Boston is the outside player. He was a touchdown mega threat in college. So when you look at the fantasy upside versus Concepcion maybe falls into a slot role and has lower value fantasy production.

I pretty much. I would say that if you think the offense is not going to be a high volume offense, you want the most effective, efficient plays. Boston will have the higher yards per reception. And just to add to the second point about the slot receiver thing, I mean, Concepcion is a freak. He's twitchy. He will be competing for some of the short area targets that Fanon, I think, will dominate. I think that's the last piece of the puzzle. But I think those are the two guys at the top of the pecking order. And if you believe, like,

The camp for Boston matters a lot to me. The camp for Concepcion matters a little bit less. Yeah, that's fair. And so I like the way it's going in camp. I think the underdog would be Isaiah Bond. But my God. Jerry Judy is not a part of this. No, and how do you possibly, like Bond has made headlines before. He made them last year in the offseason program. He was on my dynasty team.

It didn't come to fruition when there wasn't a Boston or Concepcion or even Fanning getting snaps. It's just hard for me to see a path to that upside. The only players in the wide receiver room to take a shot on are the two wide receivers. And I don't blame you if you wanted to. Honestly, I was in a draft in a mock draft where I did take Denzel Boston over Concepcion. Interesting. They are neck and neck to me. And certainly the beat reporters are talking about Denzel Boston being.

Just really dominating. And that's what you need. You need a rookie who surprises. You need a rookie who is like, deep plays. Yes, who is just an awesome piece. And I do think that the majority of the games this year will be Shadoor Sanders. That is kind of the more future play. I don't think this team has any wisdom in playing Deshaun Watson. He's not good enough to put them over the top and he's definitely not their future.

So if Shador plays most of the games, he's going to focus on the rookies. You look at like Jerry Judy last year once Shador came in was on a 17-game pace of 500 yards. These are both great players to take at the very end of your draft. We're doing a mock draft today. You know, Kyle's talked about, you know, this is low risk, high reward, highly talented players. Concepcion is that twitchiness, elite, electric playmaker in space.

dangerous with the ball in his hands. And then Boston's going to be the guy that high points it, scores longer touchdowns, goal line threat, reliable hands. The drops with Concepcion have been an offseason problem. They were a collegiate problem. It's a problem you can overcome. Yeah, I mean, it's not a very predictive stat for fantasy points per game, but it is one of the knocks on him. You know, I think I've come around.

While I do prefer the talent of Concepcion, what's happening for this team, the efficiency. I'm going to say that the leader of the pack here is Boston. Are we going Boston? However, I don't think either is a good pick. Oh, man, you know, we just got some more news. We're about to talk news, so we get to talk about that. But that was leader of the pack. Presented by PetSmart. Visit your local PetSmart store or go to PetSmart.com. Today, PetSmart, anything for pets. News and notes from around the league.

Well, this, this sucks, guys. Jordan Tyson left practice early. Okay, all right, whatever. You know, a lot of people leave practice early. Was it, was it a groin, Jay? Was it a toe? Was it, oh, he hurt his shoulder. Oh, no. No, it was the worst possible things that you could have heard. It's the hamstring. So that's been a huge. Players have hamstring issues, ho-hum. But he had a hamstring issue that.

was potentially hurting his draft stock, couldn't participate in a lot of offseason stuff. He is the ham king. He then, he dealt with it last year. He then started this offseason program not participating because of the hamstring. Took the time. You know, you gotta take the time. And he took it. And now for a hamstring to be a problem, it is. So you don't know this, Andy. Negative. Okay. You don't know this. So we have a board. I'm aware that you have no hamstrings.

Oh, that, okay, you do know. But you want to know something else you are unaware of? We have a board in our shared office, me, you and Mike, where we write names and potential names for My Guys. Yeah, the My Guys season is here and the rule around the office is if the name is up. By your name, nobody else can claim that player, but it's a handful of names each. I. Finalists. I have two locked. And I.