Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Zeke Troubles, Fantasy Answers + Best Ball Bonanza

This episode is sponsored by prize picks. Football is back and prize picks is giving users a new promo every day during stacked September. Sign up now for guaranteed picks every Sunday, along with profit boosts and daily discounts. You just pick two to six players and then you pick more or less on their projected stats.

I love playing on prize picks. It's great. And the max discount promos are back this season with a new name, Guarantee Picks. For week one's opener, Sam Darnold needs just one yard against New England to cash his pick. So check that out on the Price Picks app now. Download the app today. Use the code footballers to get $150 instantly in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Price Picks.

Run your game. If you're a smart business, the right hire can be a make or break. Indeed, sponsored jobs gets you quality candidates when you need them most. Join the 3.3 million employers worldwide that use Indeed to connect with quality talent that fits their needs. Listeners of this show,

We'll get a $75-sponsored job credit to help get your job the premium status it deserves at indeed.com slash podcast. That's indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now. Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs. Hey, Fook, Glenn. What happens when the best athletes in the world lose? Well, the secret to victory is a new podcast from Gatorade and Gimlet creative about how the best athletes in the world use defeat.

To fuel a win, the episodes feature are Serena Williams, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Matt, Ryan, JJ Watt, Carl Anthony Towns, Kyle Schwerber, and the people who know them best. Visit Gatorade.com slash podcast to listen now or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Alar Robinson from the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Coming to you from the Playdraft Studios.

With your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Hello, everybody. Saturday! Saturday! Wherever you are, it's all right for fighting. Welcome into the show. My good friend Elton taught me that. Mike is very excited. This is his first Saturday episode of the season. I've never been so excited for a fantasy football show as I am.

Right now. Wow. Did you know this is episode 397 in our history? 400s right around the corner. Next Saturday. Will you be even more excited? Saturday! Yeah. Yeah. It always goes up. That's true. Welcome in.

We have a great show today. We're going to talk about some of these Ezekiel Elliott rumors and the quick question. We're going to get into the mailbag. And we have some best ball bananza on the podcast today. Andy, Mike and Jason, as always with Brooks Manning the helm. You can find us on Twitter at the FF Ballers. And I recommend you follow us over on Twitter. We're always releasing new articles. There are three great ones that hit the website this week. And one of those.

is about A.J. Green, one of my favorite players for the 2017 season. So check that out, the fantasy footballers.com. All right, guys. This morning, various rumors about Ezekiel Elliott. Jason and I discussed this on the... Wasn't this last Saturday? July 4th episode, actually. Oh, okay. And there was talk from Adam Schefter that Zekeo Elliott may be bracing for a suspension, that he would be hesitant to draft him in fantasy drafts right now, not knowing the situation. And then a different report this morning.

alluded to the fact that okay maybe he is you know there's a lot of smoke here is what i'm saying and so i what today's quick question is this how many games does he have to be suspended for you to adjust him in your rankings from where you have him right now because i my personal prediction is actually that ezekiel it will be suspended and i think it'll be a one game suspension so i'm asking myself that question okay missing him for one game

How much does that really matter? And I think if it's a one-game suspension, I'm actually not adjusting him whatsoever. I'm going to keep him as the number three pick behind David Johnson, Levion Bell. Zeke stays there, the value of running backs. But where's that line for you? And maybe we can equip fantasy owners right now with how they should think about a one, two, three-game suspension, maybe four-game suspension for Ezekiel Elliott. What do you think? I'll say two games.

I would not move them at all. Three games, I will drop him past the top three wide receivers, four games, then I'll have to do just a complete evaluation of what's going to happen, four or more. This whole situation is extremely murky because, you know, allegedly what they're looking into was the domestic violence incident from college. And they, the NFL correctly has.

instituted a zero-tolerance policy for domestic violence or domestic abuse. And is it six games? I can't remember off the top of my head what it is, but there is an automatic penalty that you get if you are, you get in trouble for this. So that's where it becomes really murky. That's what they're investigating, but now Adam Schefter is saying it might be a brief suspension, it might be one or two. Can that really hold up?

Will the NFLPA allow that to even happen? Because they're going to challenge the suspension. He will file an appeal. And then when does the suspension actually happen? Will he just take it for the first game? The first two games will we fight it, push it off to the middle of the season. There's just, I don't know when we will actually have any clarity, even going up to the beginning of the season on this whole situation. You're saying that even if...

A ruling comes out tomorrow that it's been one game or two games. You're not sure whether that will stick for this season. I think that's a fair point for me right now, not knowing I would rather have Antonio Brown and what I do know over Ezekiel Elliott. But I'm pretty much in line with you guys. If it comes out officially that it's one game, I'll probably put him back ahead. He is a difference maker. We know when Levion Bell was suspended for a few games, there was an overreaction. But if you look at fantasy leagues that...

that drafted him, they were fine. By the end of the year, they were in the playoffs and they were doing great because it's that big of a difference maker at the position. All right. I think that's helpful. We'll stay tuned. I mean, this is something that could, we could get clarity as early as next week, or we could be waiting another two, three weeks a month. I don't think he's going to get suspension. First training camp starts on the 19th of July.

And so that is the very first one, and you pretty much have camps starting the 19th through the following week. So we will be right in the thick of it, and we'll have news. Unfortunately, we always have news in the sense of, you know, players get banged up, they get hurt, they pull a hammy, they pull this or that. We've had some big injuries in years past, Kelvin Benjamin, Jordy Nelson that happened during training camp. Hopefully we don't see those. Preseason. Kelvin was training camp, Jordy was preseason. There you go. So, well,

keep you informed. That's what we do. And we'll be switching to five days a week starting in August. All right, before we get into the mailbag and our best ball bonanza. Foot Clan assemble. I wanted, yes, we'll talk about Foot Clanvote.com. I'm going to lead into it, though. Okay. Because we got this DM on Twitter. I just have to share. Yes. Because this says everything you need to know about the Foot Clan. So we had someone on Twitter. It's at geeky sportsman. He gets a full shout out. There you go.

He says he's driving with his 75-year-old mother for 10 hours this past weekend to a family reunion. And all they listened to the entire time was this podcast. And now he said his 75-year-old mother is seriously contemplating starting fantasy football for the very first time. This is incredible. Amazing. So for those of you out there saying,

Well, how do I get my friends in? How do I'll get my spouse into it? Cross country drive with us on. If a 75-year-old mom can listen to the show and at least peaks the interest, the antennas go up. I should say antennae go up. You have the answer. It always makes. Strap them in and listen to the show. Right, right. Against their well and eventually over 10 hours, they'll come around. We've actually seen this before from.

A lot of stories with the husband and wife where the husband has earned the right to listen to whatever he wants for a part of the trip, and he'll play the episodes. And then all of a sudden, you know, the wife's singing, David Johnson. I'm just visualizing now as clockwork warns the guy when he has his eyes strapped open and they're putting the drops in. Yes, this is one of our new kind of viral spreading techniques as we strap them in. But I thought that was a cool story. So Foot Clan out there.

To transition now, we want to invite you over to Footclanvote.com. If you like the show, we got to record you doing that so I can push that button any time I want. All right. If you want to nominate us for the People's Choice Award and the Best Sports and Recreation Podcast, you can head over to Footclanvote.com and do that. Voting or nominating is going through the end of July. So, all right, let's go ahead and let's jump right into the mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag.

Yes. Saturday. Saturday man back. All right. Joey in Minneapolis says in a PPR league, do I keep David Johnson for a first or Melvin Gordon for a sixth round pick? What would you guys do? Value versus stud. It's David Johnson for me. Hands down. It was on the footcast a couple days ago. We were talking about.

in the first round, which is the one player who you are skeptical of and you think kind of has that highest bust probability of the first round? Because we know historically. There's going to be some. Yes, it will happen. There will be busts in the first round. And mine is Melvin Gordon. With that statement, I'm not saying Melvin Gordon's going to bust. Just the way I'm playing. Gives you the hebe-jeebies. I probably will not be having Melvin Gordon on any of my teams because I feel like he has.

a higher probability of the first run guys to bust. So I'm just, I'm locking it in, David Johnson, top pick. I don't care if it takes my first. What about you, Jay? You know, I'm going to be realistic. If I was this person, I would try to determine where my first, because it's a first that you're giving up, you should be able to know where you're picking in the first unless they do that at the draft. And who might be available in the first? Because that's what you have to weigh.

against this. Melvin Gordon plus that player. Right. If you're the 101. Would you rather have that than David Johnson? I'm going to go Melvin because I'm not as uncertain about him. So I will go Melvin for a six. And I think you're going to be fine either way. But do that practice first to see if you're going to end up with Antonio Brown and Melvin Gordon, I would rather have that than, you know, David Johnson and whoever you're replacing in the sixth round. All right. If you do want to send in a question to the mailbag.

You can do so on the website, the fantasy footballers.com. You can dial our voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. Have a couple of voicemail questions we're going to get into this morning. Let's start right now. Hey, this is Jesse from Florida. I had a question is, if everyone in your league subscribe to the late round quarterback theory, at what round would you bite the bullet and say, okay, it's the fifth round, six round. I have to take Aaron Rockers. Somebody has to do it. All right. Spoiler what you guys think. Bye.

It's a great question. And I just wrote an article on the late round quarterback theory. And there were three caveats I put in there. I broke down three reasons why the late round quarterback, why that's a good decision for you in your draft. And three caveats that I put in there. One of them was, you know, there comes a point where the value overwhelms the philosophy. Yes, I want to get a quarterback. But the goal is to get the best quarterback possible as late as possible.

For me, with Aaron Rogers, if I'm getting Aaron Rogers in the fourth round, I'm just going to take him. He's the one kind of stronger exception of the rule as well, because if you look back over the last eight years, you have him basically alternating two and one finishes for the last eight years. So Rogers in the fourth, yeah, if everybody in your league is passing on him, fourth, fifth round, I'm all over him.

Right. I would say that's my exact same answer. And the reason why is not just because of Aaron Rogers, but because of who you are replacing that with in the fourth round. In the fourth round, you know, you're deciding between a Keenan Allen or Devante Adams. And it's like, okay, well, let's say you push that back one more round. What wide receivers are you going to replace those with? Get Michael Crabtree instead of Devante Adams. Michael Crabtree might be better than Devante Adams. You're not missing much. So that's what I would say. Aaron Rogers in the fourth.