Outside of that, then I'm going, the next tier to me, the Tom Brady's, Andrew Luck. The Tom Brady's. There's a few of them this year. The Tom Brady's being Tom Brady, Andrew Luck, and Drew Breeze. Those guys I wouldn't really want until probably the six or seven to be that value. And they probably won't be there. And in a league like that, those guys are obviously getting pushed back as well. Right. So you still have an opportunity to snag a higher tier guy at a different value.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Zeke Troubles, Fantasy Answers + Best Ball Bonanza
Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - Zeke Troubles, Fantasy Answers + Best Ball Bonanza
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91 passagesI'll say in the fourth, my lip will start twitching. The fifth I'll probably get a little sweaty thinking about it where I might have to do it. Sixth is an automatic. I will take him, but it's probably that sweaty range because I don't like to be sweaty. Yeah. Nobody likes to be sweaty. He'll take care of that for you. All right. It immediately shuts off. Yeah. Brock.
It seems like you get sweaty the most with Aaron Rogers or Rob Gunkowski dropping. This is an accurate statement. Yeah. They make me perspire. Brock and Louisville. Louisville. Wow. Brock and Louisville, Kentucky. I know the Bengals have some amazing upside players on offense. He says.
But do you think that their offensive line, which just lost two Pro Bowl players and is ranked 31st on Pro Football Focus, do you believe that that will hold them back? Yes and no is the answer. Someone else is perspiring.
No, I mean, the reality is, will a better offensive line make them better? Sure. So in that sense, you could say they hold them back. But you want to know the only team that, according to every major offensive line chart, is worse than the 31st ring. And they're 32nd everywhere you check. That's the Seattle Seahawks. And I think...
You're fine with those options, right? Russell Wilson will be a top option. Doug Baldwin will be a top option. Jimmy Graham will be great. You can have a bad offensive line and still have a good offense. It's been done before. I don't worry with the weapons that the Bengals have. I'm not scared of Andy Dalton, A.J. Green. I like all the options there. The running back core right now is a little murky because of where you're having to.
having to draft Joe Mixin and the possible involvement of Jeremy Hill and the offensive line, I think, affects them a little bit more. I'm not too worried, though. A little shout out here to the Joe Mixing lovers. Man, I just want to be all in on Joe Mixing. I really do. I want to be. You have the head coach coming out yesterday and talking Joe Mixing up again.
And I think we see so much potential from these skill players on that offense. I want to be all in because I think if they just gave him the work, it's going to be lights on, man. Lights on. It's going to be great. It's going to be go time. And so I just looked up because I feel like I remember Andy Dalton historically being solid. When he's facing pressure, he's a cool cat and he gets it done. And last year he was actually quite bad.
when he was under pressure. I'm looking, and this is another pro football focus thing. They have him 23rd in pass a rating when facing pressure. So it gives you some pause. It gives me a little bit of pause, but I'm not, I'm not overthinking at what it comes to the Bengals because AJ Green is great. He's elite. He will get it done. And Dalton's going to be a late round quarterback.
I'm not even considering John Ross as a fantasy asset. Tyler Eifert is, he's a touchdown machine. That's what he does. So I just, I don't know. The recipe doesn't concern me with their offensive line in this particular situation. All right, let's jump into another voicemail question. Hey, it's Matt from Wayne. Quick question. If you could choose one player that has the most possible, who would you choose? Thanks, you guys would be. I already know Mike's answer. It's Martavis Bryant.
The most bust potential? Oh, he said bust? Yeah. How funny. I heard plus. Oh. As in like the highest upside player in the draft. Well, then we can answer both because the plus answer is Martavis Bryant. And the bust answer might be Martavis, right? Well, we'll see. No, we'll see where he goes. Not because of his draft position. So most bust potential. I mean, are you going to stick with Melvin Gordon? I'm going to stick with that unless I can find someone else while you're talking.
Yeah, Melvin Gordon was who I said in the first round would be my number one. So if I'm going to name someone else out there that I think could have a real big bust on people, I'm going to go talk girly. And I'm going to say that based on what I saw on film last year. I realize his offensive line was bad. I know they're moving them around more. But you're dealing with a guy who...
caught 40 passes last year. Is like, oh, maybe he'll be more involved in the passing game this year. That's like one of the narratives. Don't know. What is he going to get 60 catch? He got 40 catches last year. What if he's the same? I mean, his draft value is so different than it was last year. What if he's just the same? He's still a 17th ranked guy at a different draft value. But I feel this like internal compulsion to defend Todd Gurley. So I'll just be quiet now.
But he didn't give you ceiling last year. That's the problem. Give you 278 attempts. No, I understand. And if you are getting him in the back of the seconds, he's probably going to return value for you. But unless he starts giving you those big games like he did his rookie year, it's still going to feel bad. And the other name I'll throw out as high bus potential because he just keeps moving up and up and up. And that's Marshawn Lynch. Sure. I'm going to go with a different name.
James Winston. I think the narrative and the weapons around him make everybody think this is just an automatic ascension for him. I think you could see the same or worse performance. The interceptions are a problem. And I think you saw last year, Dirk Cutter made a conscious decision towards the second half of the year to establish the run game. Those are the games that you had, you Quiz Rogers have success in. I think that that recipe translated to victories, put him in a playoff push position.
They may not try to put as much on the back of James Winston as we saw last year, which could result in a lower than expected fantasy performance. All right. Your upside? Got your upside guy there, Andy? Because I'm going to throw out. Your plus. Are we doing a plus as well? Yeah, might as well. You got to balance it out. I'm going to say Amari Cooper for my for my plus because we haven't talked about that much. I believe that when Amari Cooper's career is over and you look back at his career, he'll have.
he'll have a year or two where he's got 10 touchdowns. Right now it hasn't happened yet. But some of that was a little bit fluky, wasn't targeted in the red zone, also had four pass interference calls in the paint. And so that's going to make all the difference. Touchdowns are hard to predict. And right now the reason he's low are touchdowns. If he ends up with 10, his upside is tremendous. Yeah, it's funny. I'll put my plus side guy as Marshaun Lynch.
Six best team in terms of points scored last year in Oakland. He heads into Oakland. You saw what a guy like Lageret Blunt did, 18 touchdowns on one of the higher scoring offenses. If Ligaritt, or I'm sorry, if Marchon Lynch gave you 15 touchdowns, it's not outside the realm of possibility. So I'll go with Marchon Lynch. I don't hate it. It goes both directions. Yes, he's no doubt about it. All right, this one comes from a YouTube comment.
Katie Girl 17 says love the show. Do buy weeks enter into your draft strategy at all? Depends on the format. So what I mean by that is if I'm doing a best ball format like we'll talk about here in a little bit on play draft, then absolutely. Buy weeks are extremely important. I'm not making the choice as to, I don't have any roster moves after the draft. So I need to know in week nine that I've got enough good people to make a roster.
And also when you've got really deep starting roster, so like Scott Fish, you know, you're starting three flex, three wide receivers. So you've got to make sure, you know, once you get into the 14th through 20-something round, then you start looking at bi-weeks. But in the average casual, you know, home league, I don't really care at all. Let me give you a hypothetical situation. You're looking at a draft that has unfolded in this way. You've got, you know, Julio.
Got Demarius Thomas. You ended up with Drew Brees and Jameson Crowder. So that's four of your top seven round picks or so. Sure. Those guys all have a week five buy. That's yuck. That's no good. So, I mean, it's, I would say the only way it impacts me is if I have a lot of players with an early buy week.
that's when I would maybe consider. Before your team is turned over. Right. I'll consider diversifying that at the draft. If I have a bunch of guys over week nine, I'm not worrying about it because there will be so much roster turnover by week nine. Yeah. And I think you added, you know, you said that through four picks, you're kind of seeing the lay of the land with your by weeks. And then you're making decisions based on that. So I think that's good advice. All right. Before we move on to the next question, I want to thank today's sponsor.
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I bought a pie. It's super easy. You just go to the local village in and you say, I'd like a banana cream. And it's like, wow, that was easiest pie. Banana cream pies. Yeah, why, where do you think that phrase came from? I have no idea. Someone who does never bake the pie in their life. Because I can't imagine it. Well, the phrase isn't easy as baking a pie. But I can't imagine it was actually meant as easy as eating pie. Do you? No, I don't think so. Brooks. Brooks.
A resident pie, Brooks, do you know? Oh, Judge Giamatti is here. Is that your way of saying you don't know an answer to this? Yep. Footland. Explain the pie reference. We need to understand. This is important. This is more important than Keeper League strategy, but I guess we'll answer this question. Life questions. Ben and Cleveland. Hey, footballers.
This season, my home league is switching from a redraft format to a three-keeper league. How much should this affect my strategy in the first three rounds? And the value of players like Amari Cooper and Jordy Nelson. Great question. His league's a full point PPR league. Ben, we've said it before and I'll say it again. A league with only three keepers, it shouldn't really change your equation very much. It's nice to have a player like David Johnson that you think, hey.
This player is going to be a three, four year star in the league. But even that is not a guarantee. We saw years ago Eddie Lacey looked like that, bona fide guaranteed early keeper league pick. It didn't pan out. So the way we approach this is most often we take a look. We try to draft players that are going to help us win this year. And we realize the fact that you'll have opportunities to make trades, to make adjustments.
That's my approach at least. It doesn't mean you don't pay attention to youth. It just means that most of the time I'm looking to win this year. What do you think, Jay? Yeah, youth does not matter much to me. But what does change, because we always say I take a three and under Keeper League to basically be a redraft. But that's not entirely true in the sense that the top elite guys, the Levi-on Bells, David Johnson, Zeke, Antonio Brown, O'Dell Beckham, and Julio. Those guys, to me, are worth a ton.
