Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Starts of the Week, Week 17 Matchups, Boom-Boom!

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And Mike Ride. Welcome in Thursday, Thursday, whatever you want to say. It sounded like you said Thursday. It was like a combination of it's Thursday ensued. You made your own new contraction. It's Thursday, Mike. You did it. Week 17. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast. I am Andy Holloway joined by Jason Moore and Mike the fantasy hitman. Whoa.

Jumped on Periscope last night, chatted with the listeners. They were still quite obsessed with the fact you're not verified. Still? It's just, uh, it's a big story. It's one of the biggest stories of 2016. It doesn't need to be a story. It's just never going to change. The story already has ended. People have talked about how terrible 2016 has been. Right. With all these, you know, well-known people, they're passing. My Twitter can't get verified. It's, it rolls right into that.

Almost the exact same thing. So, yeah, that was a big story. Talked a lot about the show. You can check that out. You can watch it on our Periscope. A lot of questions about the show, less about Week 17, believe it or not. This show is all about Week 17. We have all of the matchups on today's show. We have our starts of the week, Jason's Boom Boom Kicker, News and Notes. I even have a great quick question that Brooks prepared for us today. I'm curious to see what you guys can do.

with this quick question because it's a trivia question. We're just jumping in right now. I'm going to smash it. That's what I'm going to do. Now, it's a little different because we're not giving you hints to narrow down. Here's the question. Okay. Do we have to guess the hints? Just listen. Just listen. Follow me. And the listeners out there should participate with us. Who are the top five running backs in number of snaps on this season? You can only pick five guys.

See how many you can get out of the five. Okay, so the top five snaps? Top five snap counts for running backs this year. Okay, I'm going to throw a David Johns. Hold on. So Mike and Jason, I'll write this. How do we answer this? Because I feel like you get five names each. No, you can put the same one. No, no, I know that we can, but all right. I'm going to go David Johnson as well. Give me five names.

Okay, David, so... I'm curious how the first three weeks factor into love... Why don't you guys combine your efforts here? Why don't you work together? Give me five names together. Okay, so I'm going to go David Johnson. Elliot? Elliot, for sure. Elliot. Okay. I'm going to go Murray? Yeah, DeMarco Murray was in my list. Lev Bell, depending on how the first three weeks. He suspended, man. No, well, that's what I'm saying. So are you officially putting Lev Bell in there? I am not personally.

Well, you got to come to a consent. No, I think that's right. Obviously, if the first three weeks are factored in as just as a percentage of season. This is a total snap count. Okay, then no, not Love Bell. Oh, man. Gore? Any other guesses? Frank Gore? Frankie, old man, Gore. I mean, he gets pulled off a lot. Yeah, I don't think Gore.

But he hasn't missed. I'm trying to think of guys who have not missed games. Lamar Miller. I wanted to say Melmar Miller would definitely be in there except for this last week. He's only missed one week, though. Melvin Gordon's missed a couple games, but he was like an every down type of guy. Gurley? You think Gurley's still on that? He hasn't missed a game. Yeah, that's true. I'm going to put Todd Gurley out there. Gurley's got to be on the list. I like that. We've got, we got, let me get DJ Elliot Gurley. You have Murray. I wrote Lev, but you said no left. There's no Lev for me.

I am tempted to still go Lamar Miller, even missing a game. He was. Do you want to know the answer? And I'm tempted to go Melvin Gore. I'll go Melvin Gordon's. I'll go Lamar. Well, we're. Okay, for your last one. Sure. That's fine. Number one in snaps at the running back position, David Johnson, 949 snaps. Okay. Okay. Just unbelievable quantity. Number two, DeMarco Merck. 828 snaps. Got him. I was thinking snap percentage. Oh, no. Speed of offense. Total factors in here.

Total snaps. It's not good for Todd Gurley. Number three. Levy on Bell. Oh, wow. 781 snaps. Also first in snaps per game during his 12 active games. That is bananas, man. Three games missed. And he's third of the entire league. Number four, Todd Gurley, 691 snaps. I thought you were psyching us out. Look at that. Todd Gurley's top five in something. Oh, yeah. Hey, by the way.

You did it, Gurley? We'll do this today. Mike will do it on the spectacles. We'll put it on Snapchat. What are we doing? I lost a bet with a listener from before the season. Oh, yes. And because I did not immediately respond to this tweet, I have been accused of trying to avoid the payout on the water bet by a lot of people. I will happily take a water. I bet that Gurley would finish top five in fantasy. He did not. It would be what I call a miss. Well, then I'm throwing this out there.

I had a bet with a listener where I was going to lose because I took Golden Tate and he took Marvin Jones and he was waiting for my water video. I said you got to wait just because I was putting it off. It was clearly going to be Marvin Jones. And then it's clearly Golden Tate. I want a water video. So I'll pay that out on Snapchat. Okay. And you'll put on the spectacles and you'll all spin the wheel of water. I think I can get it to Twitter as well. We'll figure it out.

Yeah, we'll figure out. Who are the other guys? Ezekiel Elliott is the last one. All right. You guys did mention all of them. Wasn't Lamar Miller. Jason was right with Love Bell. But when you look at those snap counts, the difference between 1 to 5 is 949 to 668. So you're talking about David Johnson having nearly, what, 300 more snaps? Well, we said he was.

He was two times in fantasy, the number 12 running back. He was two RB-1s himself. Not bad. That was one of the frequent questions on the Periscope. Who would my number one pick me next year? What is it only between? Who did you give? I said David Johnson. Oh, mine's Lev Bell. Mine is Lev Bell as well. But it was like, okay. I said either one. If you make me pick, I'll just go with David Jones. In reality, if it's my personal league.

I'm going to draft David Johnson. I'm an Arizona Cardinals fan. If it's that close, I'm totally going to tie break and go with the fine. Somebody asked in a Keeper League, would you trade David Johnson or would you trade Love Bell to get David Johnson? And I kind of said, why? I mean, it's just like, who cares? I mean, they both have their issues. Don't need to make sideways trades. Yeah, that was my point. So I said, if you really love him, why not? Don't care. News and notes from around the league.

By the way, you can follow us on Twitter. See those periscopes as well as the water bet payout at the FFBallers. The website's The Fantasy Footballers.com. Grab your championship gear on there. Check us out on iTunes. Thanks for the reviews. Quick news for the day. Doug Martin is starting a four-game suspension for violating the substance abuse policy. No, PED. That is correct. Thank you for the... That has been changed. It was Adderall, which is considered a PED. Well, no, here's the thing. It's...

Both. Adderall in season is a PED. Adderall in the off season is under substance abuse. For some particular reason, they can't just agree on what is Shigvon wonder. It's not important. Yeah. It's, well, it is. He's checked himself into a treatment facility and Charles Sims also in an IR, which means Jack Quiz, Rogers. Yeah, for this week, Charles Sims on the IR, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's the,

It's the Jock Quiz show this week. I am going to change my percentage chance of Doug Martin remaining in Tampa Bay. Ooh. Because of how this circumstance was handled with Dirk Cutter being directly involved in the way that they seem to be talking about it, I'm not going to guarantee that Doug Martin is not there next year. I'm changing that percentage chance. I think it's 50-50 that he's back in Tampa next year. Jason, yeah, give your take to you. Yeah, I mean, I said this right away when the news came out that.

I want Doug Martin now. I think Doug Martin is going to fall in drafts like crazy. I fully expect him to be back in Tampa Bay. I fully expect him to be the starting running back. And this is super early prognostication. I mean, come off season, he could be cut, and then obviously everything changes. New information will change my opinion. But early right now, I think he's the clear starter, and he's going to go in the eighth round or later. And so...

I'm happy to draft him as my RB3 and stash him. And I think he's going to be a great pick next year. And I, yeah. Yeah, I know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't agree. But we don't need to talk about all that now. There's too little information for us to know. There is information that we do know, though. So he's owed $7 million next year. That was guaranteed money. That is no longer.

guaranteed money. If they want out, his contract has been voided, they can cut him with absolutely no financial repercussions. I'm going to change the percentage chance of him returning to Tampa Bay. He's back down to 10%. 28, very ineffective last year. Yeah, I owed a lot of money. The statement I disagreed with most out of what Jason said was this, he's the clear starter comment because that's just not the case. He isn't. Agreed to wholeheartedly disagree. He will come back and be the clear starter.

Okay, okay. Unless they draft a running back. You go with the 2.9 yard precarry guy that just broke the drug policy. I'm going to go with not that. Jay Jai is practicing fully expected to play on Sunday. Thomas Rawls also a full participant in practice expected to play on Sunday. Those of you who picked up Alex Collins hoping for a big day are going to be disappointed. Maybe. Spencer. They might split still. We'll see. Well, you're disappointed that you have.

The starting running back back in the lineup. Spencer Ware is practicing on Wednesday, fully expected to play in week 17. This was big news. Antonio Gates said, this is not the way I expected to be done when he came to talking about retirement. Definitely leaning towards returning, coming back to play next year. You know, it doesn't hurt that he's only one touchdown behind Tony Gonzalez for the all-time tied-in TD record. But we'll see how many scores this weekend. He's been effective.

I mean, for Antonio Gates here, it's been rough. His yards per catch and everything. His efficiency is way down. Well, that's why he's saying I don't want to go out like this. The problem is he doesn't realize he keeps getting older. I want him to have, you know how like, you know how you have those, uh, the signs at the front of a business that say like open and close? Uh, I want one on his jersey this week that says retiring, not retiring. And it starts out not retiring, but if he gets that touchdown.

He flips it over. Well, he needs two to pass the record. Well, one to tie. I think he'd be good with a tie. I think he's the start of the week for one of us this week. So maybe he'll get it. Steelers confirmed no big bin, no love bell, no Antonio Brown on Sunday. And for those of you who were riding the Pittsburgh Steelers into the fantasy championship of week 17, my condolences. Unless you got it. Eli Rogers or. No.

Even if you have those guys, now it's Jarvis Landry as the quarterback. And no one. Jarvis Landry, huh? Did I do that again? Yeah, it's Landry Jones. Landry Jones. Jarvis Landry Jones. I can get behind that. But even if you have Eli Rogers, he can't replace Antonio Brown. No, he cannot. I talked about this a few weeks ago, hoping it would happen. Tom Coughlin's interviewing today with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay. So you hope this will happen. I think Tom Coughlin's a great coach.