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Week 5 Matchups + DJ MOAR! | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1476

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Al Borland's League of Record collapse and the studio's three bathroom system turn matchup prep into despair and plumbing lore.

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We've got all your reactions to the DJ Moore explosion from last night, breaking down more matchups. We've got the fantasy face-up. We've got an embarrassing outfit that I will have to put onto my body, and you don't want to miss a minute. Make sure you like, subscribe, and you'll catch Mike on Sunday live as well. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in.

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Friday edition, the fantasy footballers. Mike, Jason, and Andy, excited to talk, fantasy football with you, get you on the right track for week five. If you can, if you're not already on the wrong track for week five. Yeah, this, this. Wait, it's still week five? Oh, man, not for all of us. There are some of us who have moved on. Well, first headline the end of a three-day saga. Jason Moore back in a hat. Yeah, yeah. Now that he's gotten the haircut, that allows you to reenter the hat. That is correct. I don't need to get a haircut because I'm going to wear a hat. But every now and then, you got to go to a place. Maybe you're not allowed to wear a hat there. You need to be able to do your hair. When you finally made it into this barber stylist, did they kind of drop confetti, throw you a party for not having a hat on when you entered? Yes. She did. She had the confetti cannon.

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Ironically, she did the social media thing where she shot the balloon ahead. Oh, and it dropped the stuff. And then confettied me in the face. So it made it a nightmare to cut my hair. Yeah, there's a lot. It's very ironic. So that, I mean, that saga is over. You've gotten the haircut and you've got the hat back on. And then the other, you know, we have a, we have a 60 point game last night to talk about. The Bears 40, Commanders, 20. Wow. Yeah. There was. There's so much to discuss. Yep. We had a monstrous lifetime performance from DJ Moore, 8 for 2.30 and 3 on 10 targets. Justin Fields was 282 and 4. No interceptions, no turnovers. 11 for 57 on the ground. 11 rushing attempts. Yes, sir.

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And, well, you know, it's been a rough start of the season for our good friend Al Borland sitting over there in Deucer's Allie. Al has, I think you've quit fantasy eight, ten times so far. Definitely, yeah. And part of his roster investment this year that we, you know, coming into the season, we were like, this is a great team. This man drafted very well. Well, he had the Justin Fields, DJ Moore stack. And through four weeks, he has the least points scored in the league. And then. Had. last night happened, and I'm sitting there, I'm watching what's happening, and Al is rejoicing in our Slack channel. He's talking not safe for work, ladies and gentlemen. He's filthy. He's fully excited. Filth machine. And just gloating. And then I realize he's facing the fantasy hitman. Mike is his matchup for the week. I was just, I thought it was just a pure celebration.

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until I realized that there was a man in a deep dark pit, a pit of despair who had 92 points hung on him last night. Which, for context of the league of record, 92 points from his two players, 92 points would have beaten three teams last week. And if he adds, let's say, eight to nine points from the remainder of his squad. That would have beaten half of the league last week. He outscored his own team from last week on Thursday night. So. So Mike is. What are you guys doing on Sunday? Guess we're looking for something to do? Yeah. There are people listening. What to hit like the links? Yeah. I mean, Mike is free. Anybody out there? You need somebody. You need a wingman. You need someone to go to a wedding with you. I am very open.

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So my schedule cleared out. It was a massacre. And Mike is not alone. I mean, we've heard from so many of you facing. Yeah. I heard from a lot of people, oh, I played against DJ Moore. I'm like, so what? I played against both. I played against both of them. So, so. My carcass has already been taken and I am, I'm no more. I'm just ashes. Yeah, you've been creamy. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful vase. The ceremony already happened. I'm done. Mike's final words on the Slack channel last night came after the throwaway final touchdown, and it was just what the F, never heard from him again. He disappeared into the mist. Look, I feel good. I feel good that we told people not to drop Justin Fields. Jason, you were very vocal about, you know, we said Chase last week with Fields and more. Mm-hmm.

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And then if you wanted to chase Herbert and Komet, you can't. It worked out in the sense that Komet was 5 for 42, got in the end zone again. Herbert was very good before the injury. Herbert was 10 for 76, and he didn't play a whole game. And I've never seen a... The dude was bawling. I've never seen a running back room where Travis Homer, Kalil Herbert, Roshan Johnson all went out in the same game, and the back half of the game was all the fullback. Blazing game. Yeah, so on the other side... I was telling the guys before that, you know, Sam Howell was the start of the week. And let me tell you, being on Twitter, being on Twitter at halftime, y'all weren't nice. But he ends up 388 and 2. That's a great game. He passed the ball 51 times. Logan Thomas was 9 for 77 in a touchdown. The leader in the receiving room was Curtis Samuel. What wasn't good is, look, this team did not run the ball at all in the second half.

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Because the game script was over with. So Brian Robinson had six first half carries, the end of the story. Yeah. Six for ten in the first half. And the game. Six for ten. Six for ten. Hal had the garbage time, big game, which was nice to see Thomas had the good game. Otherwise, the storyline is the distribution of targets in Washington is a disaster. He passed the ball. 51 times and 10 of the 51 passes went to Terry McLaurin or Jahan Dotsie. Yeah, you really want a consolidation of targets for an offense for fantasy football. And this was this was not that. Brian Pringle got targets. Diamond Brown got targets. John Bates got targets. Jameson Crowder.

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Didn't know he was still playing football. He got targets. Like, what are you doing, Washington? 11 different receivers receive targets. Yeah, that's, that is, and that can be fine for the NFL. I mean, you've seen Matt Ryan go out there and distribute it to, you know, a bunch of different players and have a great game. But we're selfish. We're playing fantasy football. And this is not good for fantasy football. It's not just about being selfish. It's your, your two best offensive weapons are Terry McLorn and Johan Dodson. Yes. Oh, Dotson had that one-handed 40-yard catch that was out of bounds, too. That was a bummer. They are great players, and you have to figure out, like, if Chicago is looking at this going, yeah, cool, go ahead, distribute the ball to your entire team, get everyone involved, a nice pat on the back. We're going to make sure that your elite players don't beat us. You know who's not breaking off a tackle and running 40 yards for a touchdown? John Bates.

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Or James and Crowder. No, that's exactly it. After the catch stuff. You know, McLaurin drew two deep pass interference penalties because why? You targeted him. Yep. He's probably breaking the record for most PIs this year. I feel like every time he's targeted, they get a P.I. It's weird. I'm not impressed with Eric B. Enemy in the offense. No. The enemy of offense. I feel like Sam Howell kind of salvaged the day by himself. standing in there taking hits, sacked five times, breaking through tackles. There you go. It is Friday. Put Clan Friday. Well, every Friday we give away a $100 gift card to Fantasychamps.com. And today's winner, Yoda Man. Now, is that like the character from Star Wars Yoda? But he's a man? Or is that like you are?

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The man, like Yoda, man. I think it is, in fact, both. It's up for interpretation. Incredible work, Yoda. So we give away $100 to somebody that supports the show from Jointhefoot.com. Don't do that. Don't do that. Congratulations. Let's get into the news. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. Well, the headline news right now, Alman Ross St. Brown, the abdomen injury missed Thursday and missing today's practice. Not good. He said his goal is to play. His head coach came out this morning and said they will update us on the status of Alman Rae St. Brown in the next 24 hours. So they don't know if he's going. I genuinely think that's kind of the situation is that Dan Campbell is waiting to find out if.

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The medical team clears him if he's capable of playing, and we will find out. Yeah, I do think at this point, there are a handful of names that you might want to just start over him if he's active. Obviously, Amun Ra is a great player. We talked about how tough he is. He'll play through injuries. I'm not saying that if he plays, you bench him. Garrett Wilson. Exactly. Garrett Wilson is one of the names I would do. Nico Collins, I would do Calvin Ridley. I think I go all the way down. DJ Moore. DJ Moore. Hope you did that one. You know, I go all the way down to probably Marquise Brown where he's been involved and the Cardinals would be good. Usually I would always start Amman Raw over, you know, those other names. But when you're factoring in this injury, if he's active, he might be hampered and limited. And this is kind of...

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a situation that could resemble what happened with the 49ers this last week, where you had Debo Samuel, who was injured, missed practice, was active. And I do believe that if they needed him, he could have performed. But Christian McCaffrey went ham. The 49ers did not need Debo to do anything. And this is the type of game at home against the Carolina Panthers, the winless Panthers, where you could see a situation where it's like, hey, we don't really need to force the ball to Amman Raw. We're not having to pick up these. tough third downs, you know, we're smoking them, maybe we give them a little bit more rest. So that's why I would sit there and go, okay, I think these other players are decent starts this week, so I would rather get my guaranteed, you know, eight, nine, ten points. Yeah, it makes sense. Damien Pierce back to a full participant, so that's nice. Remandre stayed limited on Thursday, back-to-back limited. The vibes around remandre right now are very bad.

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The over under is very low. The defenses are very good. So Ramandre is another person in that category of if you need to play them, you can. If you have other options, maybe pivot o'clock, Mike. Yeah, it's, yes, I'm on the plan of next week. Jonathan Taylor, full participant in Thursday's practice. I would say that we are handicapping his odds of playing at. I'm going to put it at 98%. Where are you guys at? Right around there. Yep. Kenny Pickett upgraded a full participant. He's going to be back. What? They're expecting him to start home game, Baltimore, Kenny Pickett. Oh.

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Okay. That de-escalated quickly. Yeah, it did. Well, he's going to be up for the season. Oh, it looks like it's just a couple of weeks. Well, it's just a bone bruise. It's just a few moments. And he's back. A few moments. He did not miss practice. A lot of people would have had surgery, though. Mac Jones mentioned that. No, Mac Jones would not have had surgery. Mac Jones would not have left the game. All right. Cooper Cup, logged a full practice expected to play barring setbacks. Yeah, I mean, Cooper Cup. Jonathan Taylor are starting this week, and they should be started for your rosters. Good news here. Javante Williams returned to practice on Thursday. Good news unless you dropped 40 fab on Jalea McLaughlin. Yep. Yeah, I'm not even sure. Like, I think this is primarily bad news for fantasy football because people haven't been excited to start Javante. You know what I mean? It hasn't gone. It's not like the Javante managers are going like, now it's like, oh, no, I've got to make a decision. If he was out, it's like, okay.

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And everybody just picked up McLaughlin. So it's like, I think this is just bad news. I mean, it's good for the health. Yeah, well, Al, do you need Giovante this week? Yeah, that decision is less stressful for me now. Oh, okay. I dare you to bench him. He'd be fine. He could probably bench a couple more players. Oh, man, if he bench just two guys, just goes too empty on you. He will win. Headline news, but not headline news because it doesn't matter. Chase Claypool. traded to the Dolphins, a 6-7 swap for the player traded for the number 32 overall pick last year. Bravo Pittsburgh for what you did. You stole from Chicago. They knew what they had and they were able to get out. Pittsburgh did a great job. Once you had Chase Claypool, the Bears realized what they had and they got out. So I expect them to be cut from the Dolphins real soon.

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Nothing like Robbie Anderson or Chosen or Robbie Chosen. Goodness gracious. And Chase Claypool, you know, down at the bottom of your depth chart hanging out. Let this be a something you can look at when you're, when you have people in your fantasy league that want to veto trades. Just remember the NFL let Chase Claypool be traded for the 30 second overall pick. Oh, yeah. And no one in the NFL said a thing about it. You should have passed a veto around. They let the grownups manage their team. Most people knew it was a dumb decision, but they let it happen. You know that the Ravens organization when that trade went through. Oh, come on. For sure. That's not. They would have vetoed it. They were. It was a second, Jason. Yeah. Well, yes, the 20 second pick, which was a second.

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technically. Well, there you go. By the way, a very humorous little note here from Al Borland. Mike, he said that you can pick his flex for him. Oh, nice. Oh, yes. Oh, boy. I'll let you know on Sunday afternoon. Yeah, there you go. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Fantasy forecast. Well, I mean, you could come back, Mike, if Christian McCaffrey scored five touchdowns, which, you know, he's capable of doing. Yes, but it's more of the rest of Al's team has to just completely tank the week. I don't know if Al will see him ever again if that were to happen, though. Oh, man, I am now, I am now rooting so hard against you, Jeremy. And before this happened, I would certainly have wanted you to beat Mike.

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Not anymore. I'm on team, Mike. Let's go, baby. I don't blame you. You may need to pivot out of Latavius Murray's in your RB2, though. I mean, I don't know if the ceiling for Latavius is going to get it done for you. There's not many other options. That's one of those ones where you just play like, you play Jordan Mason alongside Christian McCavry and just ride 49er touchdowns. Part two of our fantasy forecast getting into the matchups, part one on yesterday's show. And we're jumping in. Pittsburgh, or I'm sorry, Philadelphia, 4 and O. Traveling to take on the Los Angeles Rams, who are two and two, the Draft King Sportsbook line, Eagles, minus four. The over and under is 50 points. Okay, I'll take it. Easily my favorite game of the week. It is also. Oh, yeah. It's also going to be a good game. Yeah, yeah, it is. I'm excited for this one, like you said.

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Jalen Hertz, Matthew Stafford at quarterback. Stafford only has three touchdowns in the first three games. He's not been good for fantasy. He has been good as an NFL quarterback. He's been great as an NFL quarterback. He's thrown some interceptions. He does that. You watch the speed of the ball coming out of his hand, the angles he's throwing out. You know, there was stepping up through the pocket. Worry of health. And he is a little bit banged up from last week, but he still looked absolutely amazing. He's on pace for 5,200 passing yards. He has made Puka Nakua and Tutu Atwell into stars. And now he gets Cooper Cupback, who has been his touchdown machine. Did you see the video yesterday, either of you guys, of, um,

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Cooper Cup at practice and them running the step drill? I heard about it. Okay, so they're running, they're running a very, like a standard quick feet drill around the cones, like a straight line quick feet drill. And Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua do the drill back to back. And it was like the preseason video of Calvin Ridley running the route and Zay Jones running the route. Like Pookunakua is amazing. What Cooper Cup did in the, in the drill was like, oh. Oh, you're that good. Yeah, I remember this guy. Yeah, so he'll have a full assortment of weapons. Cup, Nakua, Atwell, Higby. All four of those players, including and Kyron Williams, are all in play. For those of you, did you see it? I'm watching it now. Oh, puka.

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I don't know that. It's not his drill, I guess. That's not his drill. Or that's how they all look other than Cooper Cup. I don't know. I think it's a puka problem. I really do. It looks so slow and bad. I think I can do it better. Oh, it's not as fast as Mr. Cup. But I think when people see the Philadelphia matchup, you're still reacting to last year. But this year, the Eagles defense, 26 against quarterbacks, 20. Eighth against wide receivers, 31st against tight ends. Other than stopping the run, they've essentially been one of the worst defenses in terms of fantasy production against them. So, you know, I don't think you have another option. You know, Kyron Williams went 27 points last week. I think you keep playing him. They seem to give the ball to their running backs around the goal line and then they have success so far this year. So is there any real hesitation around any option in Los Angeles? Not for me. And they're at home.

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So I do have a little bit of worry. You know, with Cooper Cup now seeming like he's going to come back and play, you know, we've talked about who is that wide receiver who's the odd man out? Is it Puka? Is it Tutu? And I know, Mike, you like Tutu as a start this week. Just because it's Cooper's first game back. I think in the long run that Tutu is the one that loses the snaps. I do too, but I think that I think Cooper Cup comes back. and plays a full allotment. Like, it plays 90% of his normal role. So I guess I'm hesitant to start 2-2. That would be my only, my only hesitation on that side. Jalen Hertz is in. DeAndre Swift, stay in the flames. Last three games, RB2, 13 and 11. Yesterday, I tweeted out there are, there's one player who is stuffed more than anybody else in the league. 25% of the time, Nasi Harris is stuffed at the line of scrimmage.

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That's why you think... Film checks out. You think he's bad because you watch him get stuffed on one quarter of his runs. The least stuffed player thus far in the NFL is D'Andre Swift. He has been stuffed 5% of the time. Whenever they show the film from the angle of, you know, behind the quarterback, it's unbelievable what this offensive line is doing. I mean, it's just... I could fit in that hole. Yes. I wouldn't be able to like make it far. I was going to go with the city bus. But I could fit through it. Yeah. That's impressive. A.J. Brown, Devante Smith, play him. I'm a wide man. You know, story time. Okay. Yeah, you are. You're a wide man. Are you talking about the bathroom? I'm a wide man. Are you talking about the bathroom? Yeah, do it. All right. Here we go. Shocking. So.

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We have three bathrooms at our studio now. And sometimes, you know, there's an A, a P and a C bathroom. Of course. And so I want the crim-to-l-crim party room. But also, I hate the one next door to. I hate it. Which I never understood. This whole time, I'm like, why? It's solid. I was like, why can't you pivot? This is the point. I'm learning. I learned. So I brought up to them. I'm like, look, I, I. I. I was transparent and vulnerable and I said it happens to you guys too right and they're like what I go your leg like runs into the toilet paper dispenser where the toilet paper roll is like is like in your way right they're like no it's never been in my way and I'm just thinking well they that's that's the pee bathroom they don't sit down in there so you guys just have an experience that you don't remember so me and Andy and Papa Josh

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All clothed went into the bathroom and sat down on the toilet to test to see if your legs run into the toilet paper because there's no way it doesn't for them. I'm not like a humongous 500 pound, you know, monster. I'm just wide. And so I go down and Andy sits down and he's got long legs. No problem. Doesn't run into it. Josh sits down. No issue. No issue. I sit down. I'm just sitting normal. I don't feel like I'm like. You're not, you don't have like a wide stance. No, I'm not like a normal stance. Spread eagle on the toilet here. I'm just sitting down. And my leg stretches. His leg is obliterating. Abliterating. I got no room there. And this is why I have to have an aisle seat or a first class seat on a plane. I can't sit next to people. I'm too. I'm just, I got berth and hips. My leg. You know? Yeah, man. Yeah. My leg. We know.

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I've never even grazed the toilet paper dispenser. It blew my mind. And then when I saw it, I was like, yeah, that, that looks uncomfortable. It's a real problem. You got to get a side saddle. Just sit, just like the ribbon on the horses. What's that called when they write? That's side settling. Yeah. Full sideways. Oh my gosh. You got to do that sometime. I'm going to try it out. I mean, if I've got to go in that room, that's the only way now. Oh, my good. So long story short, your birthing hips could fit through the lanes that are open enough for DeAndre Swift. Yes, I wanted to illustrate how large these holes of the Philadelphia offensive line are. Dallas Goddard is the biggest question in this game. Yeah, he is. And he's one that hopefully, I mean, I got a lot of people last night. They said they pivoted off of Goddard and started Logan Thomas. And I'm proud of you. I think that's a great call.

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It's not that Goddard can't perform, it's that Goddard hasn't. Through four games, I mean, this is not a startable tight-in. I'd play Zachertz. Hold on. Hold on. I want to be really, really real here because this is important. And that's disgusting. Zach, this is. You're really dealing with it. I am really dealing with it because this is a very good matchup. Where you beat the Rams is at the tight-in position. They play a lot of zone. This is actually, I want to bring this up, like this is a Devontas-Smith game. To me, over an AJ Brown game, not that, I mean, they're both going to be great. But like, Devonza Smith is their zone beater. AJ Brown is their man beater and they're going to play a lot of zone. Well, that is also susceptible to the tight end position. A quality tight end that could sit in those zones has really been destroying the Rams. Yes. So here's Dallas Goddard, a very talented player, a very talented tight in who has had success before in a.

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Plus matchup, it seems like you should be starting Dallas Goddard. You're allowed to call the breakout, man. He's been absolutely trashed. So I just want to know this game. Because I think a lot of people right now who had Dallas Goddard have picked up Tyler Higby and they're rostering both of these players. They're basically the same price in, you know, draft Kings. Which one of these players has the better game? It's a tough call, to be honest. With Cooper-Cupor turning and all the options in the passing game, Higby has been a product often of opportunity, not necessity. Necessity of opportunity. Yeah, necessity over like being the focal point of an offense. Both teams have struggled against tight ends. I would say that I would play Higby in that scenario. Yeah, I would too. But I get it. I think both could have successful games. This could be the breakout week. They keep talking about it.

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And talk is cheap. Show it to us. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a break and then move on to the Bengals Cardinals. I've thought about it through that ad break. I'm playing Dallas Goddard. Okay. Over Higby? Over Higby. No, overhigby. I'm playing Dallas Cardinals. All right. The Bengals, one and three. The Cardinals one and three. The D.K. Sportsbook line has the Bengals minus three in this one on the road in Arizona. The overrunners 44 points. Speaking of Tyler Higby, Joe Burrow is averaging one fantasy point more per game than Tyler Higby. Just to highlight, if you weren't sure, is Joe Burrow playing bad? I feel like we are two weeks later or ahead, I mean, of the situation with Justin Fields. Like, we know the truth. We know what the capability is. But if you need a break.

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