NFC North Breakdown + Depth Chart Takeaways, Christian Kirk

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What a wonderful day it is. What a wonderful day in the neighborhood. What a world. You know what? I still enjoy doing this podcast with you both. That makes one of us. Yeah, speak for yourself. Even 578 podcasts in, I still enjoy your company. I'm here for the people. All right. I turn around. I love you guys. Welcome in Monday, August 6, 2018, the Fantasy Footballers podcast, Andy, Mike Jason.

And of course, there's Brooks, just hanging out. Of course. Oh, yeah. How are you doing, Judge? Excellent. Do you enjoy your time in the limelight on our tour, getting a chance to come out in front of the Foot Clan and declare a verdict? Oh, yeah. It's nice. Did I ever tell you, I was really surprised how you ruled. Like... Yeah, incorrectly. I think it was because Jason's argument just got so...

statistically deep that we all got lost and you must have just gone with Mike. AKA HABS. Boring. A.k.A. Correct. There's Exhibit A through D from Mike. That's right. Oh, man. I brought evidence. Jason's just over here. Numbers, numbers, business, business, business. I believe Exhibit D was overruled. We have the NFC North. We're breaking it down on the show today. Everything that's going on in the offseason, the fantasy implications.

How we're projecting the players on those teams. It's going to be fun. Follow us on Twitter at the FF Bullards. And I want to remind people, go follow us, or shall I say, subscribe on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. You can not only see the show with your eyeballs, but you'll be, if you click the little bell, you'll be notified whenever we do like a surprise live stream. You got to go ring our bell. Ring our bell. That's the new phrase for...

YouTube until... YouTube. Ring our bell. Oh, goodness. Hey, guess what? The Listener League submissions are over. It's done. What? It's finished. And I want to say this. Oh, my goodness. Y'all came out and delivered some crazy, great applications for the listener league. So in advance, if you don't make it, but you submit it an amazing one, trust that we've seen it. We love it. And there's only so much room.

But some really, really cool stuff out there, and we'll be making those final selections. Probably over the course of this week. We'll be locking those down. And then, Jason, you can begin your quest for a third consecutive listener league title. Oh, the three, Pete. Oh, it's made all the sweeter because it's a 14 team league. Yeah, it is now. We expanded last year because we wanted to fit a couple more listeners in. That way there's more people to lose to you. Yeah, I like it. Quick question of the day, guys.

Do you have any takeaways from the unofficial depth charts that are starting to walk through Twitter, I guess? I mean, people are sharing these depth charts and talking about them. One of the surprises from the weekend, Eric Decker was listed ahead of Kenny Britt right after being signed. Some other highlights. Kenyon Drake and Frank Gore listed as co-starters in the Dolphins initial depth chart. Damny Amandola listed as a starter on the Dolphins' depth chart.

There's been a lot of Mike Jaseki hype. Gisicki. Gisciki. I love Michael Keith. Carlos Hyde listed as the first team running back, Vance McDonald, listed as the starter. Ryan Grant listed as the starter in Indianapolis. What's your biggest takeaway? I would say the Dolphins wide receivers are the biggest takeaway because there is, with Jarvis Landry gone.

there will be fantasy points to be had there. And there's been a question early in the offseason. Is it Albert Wilson? Is it Danny Amandola? Who's going to step into that role? It is clear from everything in camp that Danny Amidola has been the guy manning the slot. Not only was Amandola listed as the starting slot receiver, but Albert Wilson was listed basically as a backup outside wide receiver.

So bizarre. It is a little bizarre because that's not his. This is why that is surprising. Because he was a slot-wide receiver for Kansas City. I think Albert Wilson is very good. And I was hoping he would really get an opportunity here with the dolphins. And that's why the signing of Danny Amindola was head scratching. What I can see, Albert Wilson is listed as the backup slot-wide receiver behind Danny Amandola.

It's not listed on the outside wide receivers. So it's Stills and Parker with Carew and Grant on the outside, and then it's Amandola with Albert Wilson as the number two in the slot as of today. When I saw it, it was, Wilson was listed behind stills on the outside. But these are unofficial, and we're just trying to scrape what we can from the very, very few nuggets of information. The NFL is willing to trickle out. But Amindola is very interesting. And to stick with the dolphins.

The fact that Kenyon Drake and Frank Gore are listed as co-starters, I know the Kenyon Drake people, the truthers out there saying, nah, but Kenyon Drake, I got lots of, but can Frank Gore do this? And then they would show me a gif of a Kenyon Drake highlight. Doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If they want to use a full running back by committee, do recall when JHAE was traded. Yes. Kenyon Drake was not.

The starter, Damien Williams was. They were splitting time. Now, they were close in snaps, but Williams was getting more work than Kenyon Drake. And Drake wasn't valuable then. Correct. It was when Damian Williams went out that Drake became of supreme value. Now, that being said, I actually expected the depth chart.

I'm a Drake truther, as you know, you called us so rudely. The thing is, is I was expecting Frank Gore to be listed as the starter and Drake the backup. So when it was like co-starters, I didn't see that as like an indictment against Drake. I would have agreed with you earlier in camp, but with Drake running with the first team so often and things like that, I think the co-starter thing is par for the course from Miami. It's just.

People don't understand this. If you've been around fantasy football long enough, you've seen this exact template play out on team after team after team. Chris Thompson, the most electric back in football. Look, coaches don't view electricity as every down...

necessity. It's a matter of giving Drake the opportunity to make big plays and not wearing a guy like that down. It's not necessarily an indictment on his fantasy value. They signed Frank Gore for a reason. I mean, he's a longtime NFL starter, and then they went out and pursued him and signed him. We all knew he'd have a role. He's a veteran. It's going to be a bit of, you know, thunder and lightning for that backfield. It makes Kenyon Drake's average draft position a little bit.

Too high. A little bit too high, a little bit scary. Oh, hey, since you're bringing up average draft position, I would just like to, I'd like to take a minute and talk to the Foot Clan real quick. I've got something I want to try out this year. And this is a true story. I am asking all Foot Clan followers to not draft Carry on Johnson in any mock draft you do this off season. I want to see if we can dip that. I'm not joking. I want to see. Yes. I look.

Pencil them in after your draft. Be like, okay, I'm going to draft this guy instead. I would have taken him here. But I took Albert Wilson in the fifth round. I want to see if we can keep that ADP low for you. For you. For you. For you. For you can get him at a good value. Do not. I am making a campaign. Bookland, he's lying. This is not for you. This is for me. This is for Jason Moore. Do not draft carry on. If you show me a mock draft and you drafted Carry on Johns, I'm going to be so upset. You're going to give him an F. Yes. Look.

Draft them in your real drafts, but in your mock drafts, you keep that ADP low. Jason's out there riding every beat rider, threatening them not to write about Kerryon Johnson. Oh, I want them to write bad news about Carryon Johnson. Are you like sending Carryon Johnson like PEDs or something like that to get his ADP down? No, that would. I wouldn't recommend it. No, I would agree with you there. News and notes from around the league.

I guess they didn't throw in one news and note from around the studio. If you are in or around the Phoenix area, we've got one more live show on our fantasy for the people tour presented by draft. You can grab tickets to our live show. It's August 24th at the Crescent Ballroom in Phoenix, and you can get tickets at Ballers Live.com. It's going to be hot. That was such a fun show last year, doing our bold takes, and some of those bold takes really came to fruition. So, yeah, be there. If you're in Phoenix, be there, August 24th. All right.

We talked about it. The Patriot signed Eric Decker. Now he's ahead of Kenny Britt. We didn't talk about it in the quick question, so I want to bring it up again. Do you read into Decker being listed ahead of Britt right now? I read into it. That's not great news for Britt. The unnamed player here, though, is Philip Dorset, who, as of right now, it's going to be Chris Hogan and Philip Dorset. Does that translate into fantasy value for Dorset? It's unlikely at this point of his career.

You know who Dorset could be? But he's the fastest guy on the team, and they need someone to replace Brandon Cook's speed. I was going to say the best case scenario for me for a Philip Dorset season is kind of looking like, you know, Ted Ginn previous to last year or Robert Meacham or something where it's like if you get the big play from Dorset on his three targets, it's valuable. But I don't think he's going to have a pile of targets in that offense.

But yeah, it is interesting. This was big news over the weekend. Sony Michelle. Uh-oh. We'll undergo a procedure on his knee after injuring it in Wednesday's training camp practice. It'll probably cost him, I believe it's fluid drain from his knee. It's going to cost him the preseason. It may cost them more than that depending on who you listen to. Jeff Howe from the athletic had a more negative view.

I believe Schaefter had a more positive view to his recovery. I think Schaefter had said 10 days, but the fact that there are people reporting, this could cost him all of preseason. And you take out, you take out for me into the regular season. You just, you tell me that a rookie running back for Bill Belichick is going to miss all of training camp and all of the preseason. That is troubling. You cannot, you cannot possibly draft.