Week 11 Waivers & QB Streamers + Honeypot Players - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/14

It's Waver Day. Make sure you subscribe and enjoy the show. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers podcast Tuesday episode of the show, Waver Day. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Another week in the books.

Trade deadlines have either passed in some leagues or in a lot of leagues this is the week. A lot of decisions to be made. Unfortunately, I believe that this is the perfect week for trade deadlines. And when I say unfortunately, I mean because it could go either way for a lot of people. And so when the trade deadline is sitting there and it's a, am I going all in or not moment? Keeper leagues, Dynasty leagues. You know, it's an exciting time. In our league, we get trades through the end of week 11. So, you know, people could be making moves Monday after a bad Sunday or a good Sunday. In our league, I mean, I don't have an actual mathematical breakdown, but just kind of eyeballing it. It seems like there's really just two teams that are toast. And the other 10 are fighting for six spots. Yeah, and it's tough.

to make those decisions sometimes. Yeah, especially in keeper leagues where there is a little bit of playing for the future, making trades for next year, trying to make your team better if you don't believe you're going to be there. In standard redraft leagues, I feel like you can have the trade deadline much later because you're just... trading players for players and both teams trying to improve for this season. But if you're doing any kind of Dynasty League or Keeper League, this is a good time where you're going to force managers to make decisions before they know they're out. Yeah, and that's good. That's a good thing to set it there. But you're right. Redraft it can be much later if you want it to be. A couple of things at the top. You can watch and subscribe to the show on YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy.

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I want to move forward because that would allow us to talk about the Denver Broncos defeating the Buffalo Bills 24 to 22. Oh, my goodness. Cheers, everybody. Another almost upset. You are, you are scary. You frighten me. And, you know, usually it's one of those things where if you're making calls against a spread and you can get 60%. You're a wizard. you're up over 70% since the beginning of 2022. And most of the time when you say one of your almost upsets, I'm like, you crazy. You're crazy. Your reaction, I said, it's, it actually confirms that I made the right choice. Yeah. If you are not exasperated and kind of what? Then I'm like, oh, crap. What do I do? No, it's, it's impressive. Denver is, uh, Denver is one of the most interesting storylines.

in the NFL right now. They are very much in the playoff picture. Mike, you talked about not a lot of teams being eliminated in our fantasy league. Denver's four and five. They've won three straight. They have a pretty easy schedule. Buffalo is the opposite side of it where they've lost again. They're five and five. They're two games out of the playoffs. They have the worst schedule. They look terrible. Their defense has been decimated with injuries. Their defense looked so good to start the year. They lost most of their stars on defense. But their offense, their offense just looks completely inept right now. It's weird because it was a machine, you know, and everyone expects the machine to get fixed. And it does with elite quarterbacks. Like Cincinnati for two consecutive years has looked terrible to start the year, but you're like, eh, Burrow will figure it out and they do.

And, you know, the off games for the Chiefs, Mahomes figures it out. Even the offense in Philadelphia has had its little sputterings at the beginning of the year. And you're like, ah, they figure it out. And they do. And I still think Buffalo figures it out. But they haven't. And, you know, I can't really understand what's going on other than, you know, is this Josh Allen suddenly becoming Justin Herbert in the sense that. You don't have that elite defense anymore. The position that your team is in is very different. You know, Justin Herbert with a great defense, we'd be talking about them differently. There was. As a winner. There was much buffoonery from the Buffalo Bills yesterday. I mean, and. Was it three turnovers? For Josh Allen? No, for the team. I mean, they had the fumble by. Allen had. Two picks. I think there was four. So I was going to start at the top.

Sorry. The buffoonery to me starts. James Cook, I get it. He fumbled. You teach your running backs that it's highly frowned upon that you fumble the ball, but he's still your best running back. And then you bench him. And that's dumb to me. And then. But he would have no way of knowing that it was bad what he did. Dave, yeah. I mean, well, that, that there, it does go forward to another problem that James Cook did get back in the game. So I'm not sure that he. really learned his lesson. That's bad coaching. And that's why he, when he dribbled the ball later. Yeah. Yeah. That was more of it just in your face. Look, I can fumble and I can still get the ball back. Gabe Davis drops an easy catch that turns right into a pick. Is Gabe Davis getting punished? He's still, he led the team in targets or tied with Donald Kincaid. Then you have, look, they were out of control at the beginning of the year targeting Stefan Diggs. But, and I know the matchup for Stefan Diggs.

Very tough against Sartan, but he is still an elite wide receiver. Three for 34 for your number one guy. Maybe that's part of your problem as well. Yeah, maybe, maybe targeting Gabe Davis and handing the ball to Latavius Marie does not a great offense make. Wait, those are worse players? Are you telling me that James Cook is going to help this offense? Yes. Like when they got him back on the field and he dominated. Immediately starts ripping off chunk plays. And then they scored a touchdown. I mean, when you bench these guys, you're punishing your freaking team. You're saying, I'm going to make my team worse to prove a point. Maybe the drive if you want. Right, right, right. Finish the drive with like take a breath. A player to scold him on the sideline. Get him off the field. Let me scream in his face. Yeah. And then put him back out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it.

everything that they've done this year on the offensive side has seemed like it is swinging the pendulum and not making small adjustments that improve your team. And I don't know if that's the absence of Brian Dable, you know, from a couple years ago and they can't figure it out. But, you know, you have the game where it's like Diggs gets too many targets. You go into the next game, Diggs gets no targets. You know, you target Gabe Davis 100,000 times. And then Jason plays him and he fully gooses. So, yeah, it's a mess in Buffalo. I mean, from a fantasy perspective, it makes you nervous about James Cook in general, even though he looked great on his 12 carries. It makes you nervous about Gabe Davis' utilization. It makes you nervous about Stefan Diggs blowing up this locker room. Has he deleted the bills yet from social media? You saw Trayvon, right? Yeah. Trayvon Diggs came out and said, 14, you got to get out of there. I mean, that's helpful.

Those brothers. But it does throw a little bit. Like you hope they just stay in playoff contention. That's when I would be worried. If they really dropped out of being in the playoffs, I would be worried about a cataclysm in the locker room with Stefan Diggs. And then that could just change the landscape for how you view Josh Allen to finish the year. Because that's really what we care about. We want Josh Allen to be Josh Allen to finish the fantasy season. We're going into week 11. Just stay in contention. You should. I mean, they can make the playoffs for sure. Oh, for sure. But it's going to be tough. I think they play Philly. They play Kansas City. They play some tough teams. Let's flip it to the other side. One of my biggest trade targets last week was Javante Williams. I have been unsuccessful. I have repeatedly tried to. You'll be more unsuccessful. I have tried to manipulate the situation and get Al to send me Javante Williams in several different ways. But he has said,

Respectively, or respectfully, no. Last night, 21 for 79, had a receiving touchdown. Looked good. Still a mix of opportunities being handed out. Six carries for Gilliam McLaughlin. Samaji P. Wright in there on the kind of passing downs, and he made some good plays. Catching every Russell Wilson pitch possible. But the biggest and most impressive thing for Denver is their defense. They went from a 70. point defeat to being a formidable, tough defense, tricking teams into playing their fantasy options against them and having no success. They have now, they just beat the Chiefs, right? So they have now beat Mahomes and Josh Allen. Yes. And they have been. That's incredible. If you play Bacheco, you were not happy. You know what I mean? Right. If you play Stvon Diggs, you were not happy. Like some premier options against the 70 point defense, not, you know, if you look at fantasy points against

They're going to be forever scarred by that 70 point game. Yeah. So that is not the best metric to look through. We got to, you know, on our site, we limit it to last three, last five. You've got to start looking at a smaller window for Denver. Yeah, I mean, if you look back at the last month of games that Denver has played, they've played good teams. They've played Mahomes twice once. He was sick. So whatever. But when he was healthy and they lost to Mahomes, they still only give up 19 points. in that game to Patrick Mahomes, 19 points, 17 points, 9 points, 22 last night to Josh Allen. Like, they are not. They're shutting people down. It's actually a good defense. So that is a credit to coaching, I think. The fact that you could have a team on the way towards the number one pick and a laughing stock that turns it around so quickly. And what's crazy about that is they actually got rid of a few defensive pieces.

and traded some, I think, must have been issues in the locker room. And that team's rallying right now. Cortland Sutton keeps scoring. Dude, that touchdown. Can't stop scoring. That touchdown was seven and nine games. Incredible. He also drops a few balls every game. He's a weird player. But right now, you just stay in the flames with him, right? He seems to be their number one far away. I suppose so. I don't know how he gets a touchdown every week. I mean... I mean, you said 7 to 9, but another way to look at that is like, there's only two games this entire season that he hasn't had a touchdown. That's crazy. Yeah, where was this last year, bro? Yeah, you know, nowhere. It was nowhere. Jason, what do you make of Marvin Mims and his one target? And yet,

The second most routes of the wide receiver position? No, he looked great in the game. I know statistically you say, oh, you know, one catch, but his return. No, no, no, no. Statistically, he was infinite zero. Right. But his punt returns, you know, as a returner, when he's got the ball in his hands, which obviously he didn't have on offense yesterday, he still looks good. So if he's getting routes. and being involved on the field on offense. He's not. He's not being involved. I mean, just to be fair, Quentin Johnston, reruns a lot of routes. But this is the first game. I know. This is the first time all season. But like Jerry Judy's not off the team. Right. I'm just saying like I would not be investing myself. I would be willing. I don't think they're going to throw the ball enough. They want to run it. I would be willing to, you know, depending on who you're dropping, I would be willing to at least sniff picking up.

uh mims a little sniff it just like you don't think about that no no not me um i want to be in on it but i i don't think it's realistic to expect a lot there uh but this team is it's on a roll anything else you want to talk about there uh the end of the game was yeah that was awesome the more buffoonery the buffoonery continued um how do teams not do that russell wilson moon ball on the deep shots more like just intentionally throw it real early real high so that the the offensive player has to come back because they're the ones that know oh this ball is about i mean that only that doesn't work at all unless it's an all-out blitz because you you have a safety and the safety just goes and intercepts the ball so it only works when it's one-on-one going down field but the play before when he got sacked i literally i was like why didn't you just chuck it yeah

Well, they did. And then they chucked it the next play. They did. And that was both impossible for the defender. And yet, you know, it was clearly PI. So, and then they, they 12 men on the field. Buffalo blew the game. I mean, just, just ridiculous. And then, uh, even with 12 guys on the field, they still didn't block the field goal. Do we have breaking news, rap? We do. Did they just fire Dorsey? They did. Yeah, they did. They just fired Ken Dorsey. Well, this is, um, glad we lingered on the game. Yeah. Ken Dorsey's gone. So we got interim O.C. Joe Brady. Joe Brady, I'd like to introduce you to Stefan Diggs and James Cook. They will be meeting you in your office momentarily. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. I have a hunch that they fired him after watching the game and what happened.

The old Gannon. We checked the tape. Yeah, I think they checked the tape live and was like, what are we doing? I guess I didn't mention it. Dalton Kincape was good for fantasy again. Yeah. He did have a drop the same way that Gabe Davis did. But he is getting targeted quite frequently. And it's fun to see a tight end downfield like on the wheel route. All right, T. Higgins, unlikely to play in week 11 and say, oh, cool. That's a Thursday game, right? Cool, cool, cool. That's probably why it's easy to tell right now. It is cool, Mike. It's cool because that's his best chance of not doing the T. Higgins dance of I'm active, inactive for you. Just be happy. No, all right. Just be sad. Now when you've seen my starting roster. Who are you putting in instead of T. Higgins this week? Literally don't know. Literally don't. I've never heard of him. They're probably on the waiver wire somewhere. Hey, J. Dillon. Oh, he's back. Matthew Stafford.

expected to play against the Seahawks in week, 11. Okay. Yay, says Puka managers everywhere. Yeah, I would imagine cup managers as well. For sure. Yeah. Zay Jones arrested on a domestic battery charge. He's already injured and I don't want to talk about him anymore. Buccaneers. No issues with the thumb injury for Baker Mayfield expected to start this week. Baker's playing okay this year. He is. Deshaun Watson will undergo an MRI. have tests on his ankle. I think he already did that. And we are hearing maybe a mild high ankle sprain for Deshawn Watson, but we expect him to play. Yeah, that's how I heard it reported. He might, knowing Deshawn Watson, he might need some rest, but we'll wait and see. I really don't want that. You don't want him to get rest? Because he's very good for Amari Cooper. He is much, much better than the backups for Amari Cooper. Keenan Allen, Gerald Everett, day to day.

with shoulder and back injuries. Keenan went out of that game for a minute, so it's not unexpected veteran. Michael Thomas, significant knee injury, Saints are not going to have him back. AT-A-T. A-T. Perry, that is, he played a ton of snaps. Yeah. Probably doesn't matter. Derek Carr, concussion protocol, and then just a couple reminders for you as you look at, this is a waiver show. We're going to jump in momentarily. But a reminder of some players eligible to return. Devon Ait Chan. Pat Fryermuth. Yeah. We'll see if he returns to practice. He's got to take some time. The hamstring was the re-injury. And then next week, week 12, Kyron Williams. You know, Kyran is still sitting at like number four in points per game at the running back position. The concern for Kyran to me is the schedule. He's got some issues on it.

And so when I looked at maybe targeting him on the cheap for the stretch run, I got a little nervous about the schedule. I don't know if you haven't in front of you, Jason. Are you looking at it? Yeah, I've got it pulled up. I think there's a few matchups that I am not excited about. Well, he comes back for the Arizona Cardinals, which is fantastic. Well, assuming he's back, though, right away. He is eligible to return based on the injury. I still expect him to be there week 12. I'd bet money on that. But week 13, Cleveland. Not good. Yuck. Baltimore Ravens. Who? Yuck.

Two weeks later, the Saints running defense, and they end the season with the San Francisco 49ers. Granted, that will be after most fantasy championships. Yep. So there you go. That is it for today's news and notes, presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. Welcome to the Waver Wire. Presented by Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3. The bye week dance continues this week. The Colts, Falcons, Patriots, and Saints head to the buy. We have no bye weeks for Thanksgiving week. Which means the Megalabodon is coming up. It also means it's going to be a gigantic episode. Even more mega. Oh, no buys. Yeah, probably six hours. Next Wednesday. Next Wednesday, Brooks. And then week 13, when everybody's really trying to get into the fantasy playoffs, we're going to, you know, you don't have your bears, your bills, your giants, or raiders, your ravens, your Vikings. Just forget about it.

Those guys are not going to be on your team. It is brutal. I was just breaking down our league of record with these guys because we're all three essentially. I think we're all tied. We are. So we're all neck and neck. Any loss moving forward is horrific. And then I looked at my week 13 and wept. And no Stefan Diggs, no Mark Andrews, no Jordan Addison. So start preparing now for week 13, everybody. Better help. T. Higgins is back by then. Oh, he will not be. Let me scratch that. He will be in week 12. But then he won't be. Oh, because he'll get hurt again. You know, for someone who really loves T. Higgins, he's caused you a lot of pain. I don't like him anymore. Just personal. When you look at the, I mean, I'm sure we'll have an episode or some quick question or something reflecting on.

some of the bigger busts of the draft, but like T. Higgins is in that category. A lot of second round wide receivers are. Yeah, the second round, not just wide receivers. Almost the entire second round was a whoopsie doozle. And only James Winston can save us and make Chris Olive relevant again. Let's jump into the running back waiver wire. Keaton Mitchell sitting near the tippy top of that list because John Harbaugh has come out and said that like, you know, We want him out there more. He is a very difficult analysis situation for me because he's explosive. You can take a Devon A-chan approach to his opportunities and say, look, he just gets it done when he gets the opportunities because the last two weeks you would have been happy you started him. But he only got four snaps and one touch in the second half of the last game. And, you know, you don't know how the game script is going to go for Baltimore against Cincinnati on Thursday night. And so.

Look, I'd want to kind of get him into my lineup for that game, but I'd be nervous and I, you know, how should fantasy players approach him on the way or what? Yeah, this is, you've got to ask yourself if you're willing to start him. To me, I'm still hesitant to start him. There's a running back. They want to get him more involved, I believe. Harbaugh is a very straight shooter, very honest. And I believe that they want to get him more involved. But more involved for a player that last week got three carries. does not mean a lot of opportunity. It doesn't mean, oh, we're going to have him be the bell cow. And we've seen with Harbaugh in the past, when there is a more explosive younger running back, they will often still have that player not get as many touches as you want and they will bring the veteran reliable.

Is this a Tyson? Yes, yes, exactly. Tyson Williams. We saw every time he touched the ball, he was more effective than the aged veterans they had on the roster, but they would not give him the ball a lot. And I expect that to continue to happen with Keaton Mitchell. So for me, do you like Singletary Moore? Yes, I do. Even though Damien Pierce's status is up in the air. Damien Pierce's status is up in the air. Obviously, we had our slight disagreement yesterday. this week, even if Damien Pierce is back, Devin Singletary is going to be a great play. It's against the Arizona Cardinals. We agreed on that. We agreed on 6040 for this week. It was just remainder of the year. Oh, oh. Yeah. And for me right now, this is about, like this is the time of year where I'm not focused too much on stashes. Like if Keaton Mitchell keeps getting a little bit more and more and more carries as the season goes on and four weeks from now becomes the dude, I hope you're already in the playoffs. You know, a little bit.

Might matter about what your record is right now, but I'm trying to buy wins. I'm trying to get players off the waivers that I need to start. And this week, I would rather start Devin Singletary than Keaton Mitchell. Let me throw one more name in and ask Mike's opinion on the order. Let's throw Ty Chandler in there with Alexander Medicine seemingly very likely to miss with a concussion. Mitchell, Singletary, Chandler. Chandler are the most available of those players. But where do you put those guys? For this week, I would rank them Devin Singletary at the top. then I would go Ty Chandler over Keaton Mitchell. It's interesting because Ty Chandler is, I mean, the season for him has been up and down of, you know, training camp. No one is stepping up as the number two running back. Then he has this huge preseason game and it's locked. It's, oh, Ty Chandler is the backup, clearly. Then he was getting absolutely no work. Then they trade for acres.

But then the first opportunity with Acres out for the year, Ty Chandler was getting a bunch of work. And that bunch of work was while Madison was still playing in the game. So, I mean, the tea leaves are that Ty Chandler will be the next man up. You know, in Wang Wu is still on the roster. I think he got a carry or something. But Ty Chandler would project as the guy. And he actually kind of physically comps like Keats Mitchell. Chandler is. is thicker than Keaton Mitchell, but they run about the same 40. They are both absolute burners. You mean, you watch the Wildcat snap of Ty Chandler getting the touchdown. That guy is explosive. He can instantly get from zero to 100 immediately, and he gets to play Denver. I know that the Denver defense is improving. We talked all about that. But when the bill's finally committed to James Cook,

Little speedster. It was a massive problem for that defense. They couldn't figure it out other than him fumbling. So I think that Ty Chandler, I would personally play him well above Keating Mitchell this week. See, I'm not in that boat. You'd play Mitchell? Well, I don't think the difference between Chandler and Mitchell is enough to make me not take the long view on Mitchell. I don't think that Chandler is going to have sustained value over time. Even though he was getting a bunch of work with Madison. He was getting some work with Madison for sure. But I don't like the committee situation with Dobbs there and Jefferson coming back as much as I like Mitchell on this offense that could be in a dominating position. I mean, we've seen Gus Edwards be effective in years gone by with very minimal work. Mitchell can take the backfield. I don't think he can take goal line at all. The difference between Chandler and Mitchell this week, I think is a toss-up.

Denver's defense is playing well. So I would pick up Mitchell myself. Jason. Yeah, if I break this tie, I would be on the Ty Chandler's side. I do think that the place that Denver still gets beat is speed on the ground. We saw that with A. Chan. We saw that with Breece. We saw that last night with James Cook. I think he was averaging like nine yards of carry or something ridiculous. And I do think Ty Chandler. We'll have a good week. We presume right now we've got to do waivers today. Most of this year, if a guy's been in concussion protocol, he's missing that game. And so that's where Alexander Madison is. I assume Ty Chandler is the starting running back this week. So if I'm looking for a start, I would prioritize Ty Chandler. I do agree with you, Andy, if you're taking a longer view approach, like if you're not actually putting one of these guys in your lineup this week, then I go Mitchell. And I do want to remind people that you like Devon Singletary because you just put up a career high.