So he's likely to take a wide receiver as well. And he's got two picks there, though. Now, one other name to throw out here. I guess, well, let's see what two picks he gets. All right. So DeAndre Hopkins is our selection, and he's coming off the board here. Jimmy Graham went right after Hopkins, and Jeremy Hill followed that up as the first pick of the third round. So Justin Forset is available to us. Any second thoughts on Forset? There's only one second thought. Is it Frank Gore? It is not Frank Gore. I'm going to throw a curveball here.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Live PPR Mock Draft, Brian Tesch Interview, Mailbag
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Live PPR Mock Draft, Brian Tesch Interview, Mailbag
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178 passagesC.J. Miller. Nope. If I'm drafting, I draft Justin Fawcett here. That's what I do. But I do think it's worth pointing out. At this point, see, for your early question on this episode of who is not going to be on my team, I was going to name about 10 quarterbacks. Because I don't like any of the middle tier guys. I think when you take a middle quarterback, it's not that great. But as your third pick to be able to get Aaron Rogers, who I see as a...
point differentiator, a guy that's going to take you and give you a gap ahead of everyone else in the third round, I don't think I've actually done a mock where I've seen him in the third right now. So that's where my only hesitation, would I rather have Aaron Rogers or Justin Forsett? We normally don't look at quarterbacks, but in that value I would... Your point is extremely interesting for me, because that wasn't even an option. In my head, it was Justin Forsett's my number five PPR guy.
I was completely locked into that pick. But what I would do is I would take four set here, but what I'm offering to you guys is do we run this experiment of us taking Aaron Rogers and see what our team turns into? Or do we just go with who we would usually take? Fourset for you is your number five PPR running back? Is that correct? That is correct. For me and PPR, he is my number eight. Hard to pass in the third round on a...
RB1. But I do agree. When you do mocks, one of the best things you can do is test what happens when you grab a titan in this spot. What does that do to your team? So I'm fine either way. It's clearly those two. Andy, you make the call. Let's give it a shot. Let's go with Rogers. We haven't done the top end quarterback very often. Let's give that a shot and see what our team looks like. I think that'll give good perspective to our listeners. I never saw us going this way. I know.
So we've got two Packers on the team, Eddie Lacey, Aaron Rogers, and D'Andre Hopkins. Oh, Zeus! And so obviously a big wait for our next pick. I'm not going to go through every single one of these names. Anybody that you guys see in the third round. Boy, something that jumps out to. Gio Bernard in the third round. That is...
Let me give you some names. Kind of gross. I'm kind of disappointed here. The last pick right before we pick now here in the fourth round was Frank Gore. Oh, man. And somehow he dropped all the way to the 10th pick of the fourth round. What do you guys think about that? If we could have grabbed Frank Gore, then Aaron Rogers would have been just such a great value to me. Oh, man. The interesting pick in the third round to me is Brandon Cooks, where I don't know if anyone happened to be following.
our Twitter feed today, but I was having a lively discussion with, what's, I believe, King Josh. Yeah, no, it was, it was all completely legit where we're just making points of he was, he liked Brandon Cooks and I liked Jordan Matthews and looking up some interesting things because people just assume that Brandon Cooks is a PPR machine.
Because that's what he was, the first half of the season. Then if you look at his game log, I believe it is October 19th, that game, everything completely changes. His targets go way down, and his yards per catch goes through the roof. I'm talking a 7-8-yard difference in his catches where they clearly changed his role. And I was expressing, that's why...
I'm hesitant on Brandon Cook's right now. He's going very early in drafts, and I feel like they might be putting him in the Kenny Stills role, which, while that has value, tremendous value in fantasy, it doesn't have high-end... PPR and early in drafts value. So I just thought it was an interesting discussion. Yeah, when I went through my...
wide receiver rankings this week, Cooks did not end up as high as maybe I thought in the beginning of the season. Well, let me throw this out there then because it pertains to this next pick. If that happens, the obvious question, if we say, okay, Cooks is going to that Kenny Stills role, he's not going to be a PPR machine, but his yards per catch is going to go up, well, Jimmy Graham's gone, where, Kenny Stills is gone, where are those targets going? And I think personally,
that the answer is in the backfield. I think those targets are going to go to C.J. Spiller. And I think Marcus Colson is getting underdrafted.
Totally completely agree. I think Mark, I mean, he's like the Anquam Bolden. You know, he's just old, tried, and true, and not sexy at all. Yeah. So two of my favorite guys went off the board directly before our pick right here, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore from Indianapolis. I have Andre Johnson as a PPR monster this year. I actually have him at 11 in my PPR ranking. So sitting here in the fourth round, second pick of the fourth round, C.J. Spillor is on the board. Brandon Marshall is on the board.
Jonathan Stewart's on the board. The pick to me is between Lamar Miller, Jonathan Stewart, or C.J. Spiller. Or Ingram. Is Ingram still on the board? No. Ingram's off. So those three guys where I have Miller a good bit higher, but the gambler in me says that I would be willing to take C.J. Spiller.
Yeah, for me, it's definitely C.J. Spiller. Jason, do you have any thoughts on that? Just to give you my rankings, I have C.J. Spiller at 15 and Lamar Miller at 25. Yeah, I have Spiller catching at least 75 passes this year, which is crazy. With his open field production, I think he's going to do very well. So is that the pick? Yep, lock it in. All right, let's do it. CJ Spiller's off the board, and we're coming right back to pick here in the...
Fifth round? So Carlos Hyde, Jarvis Landry, off the board between us. Yes, and so Brandon Marshall is still sitting there on the board. I like Brandon Marshall a lot this year. I think he's being underdrafted because of hesitancy with that offense. But he is going to be the number one guy there, and he just catches everything thrown his way. He catches touchdowns. I have him as my 14th PPR wide receivers sitting here in the fifth round. But I am open to discussion here because Alfred Morris is still on the board as well. Yeah.
I'm not in love with Alfred Morris. As is Jonathan Stewart? Well, in love with him and having him available in the fifth round is two different things. And considering he would be our third running back, I mean, you can definitely live with that. Other options at the wider seat position, Amari Cooper, Deshawn Jackson, Jeremy Macklin, Alan Robinson. That's the guy who I want to target. Yeah, he's my next highest PPR guy. But you realize he'll probably drop. Yeah, he won't drop much further, though.
It would not shock me in the run after us if he's gone. And I think right here my pick is Jonathan Stewart. We have to take a realistic look at our position, right? We know from this pick to the next pick, a ton of guys are going. What position has the most flexibility there? Wide receiver has the most flexibility. I think that the groups are, you know, to me I put Brandon Marshall.
close to some of those other guys, and I don't see a huge drop-off. So I think that that leads me to think running back is a little bit better. Now, if you are right and Brandon Marshall is a high-end wide receiver two, then, you know, I'm making a mistake. I am one of those you referenced scared off by the offense. I still think he's going to have a decent year, kind of like he had when he went to Miami. But he's just...
Let me say a couple other names for you, Jason. Todd Gurley is sitting here. No. Nope. Okay. Just making sure. You guys aren't going to jump on Amir Abdullah already. I would gladly jump on Abdullah, but I have Stuart higher than him. So is Jonathan Stewart the guy? He is for me. I'm split between him and honestly Brandon Marshall. Well, if, yeah, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go with Jonathan Stewart, and here's why. I sent you guys a message a couple days ago about my absolute new man crush. New hotness. New hotness. I have a new hotness that I will definitely be targeting in this draft. Can you pronounce his name? Probably not. Cameron Artist Payne. Oh, okay. Ding, ding, ding, ding. There you go. Yeah. Cameron Artist Payne, the running back rookie that they took in Carolina, man, I am starting to fall in love.
We need love music. We need like a love music drop. Best I got is sad music. Put it on. Let's see if it works. Yeah, let's see if it works. Talk about him. Oh, man. No, no, no. Talk about Jonathan Stewart's knee. Then it's a way of... Jonathan Stewart, he's so promising. He was a good man. He's so quick to die. And when that happens... Somebody. Cameron Artist Payne.
You talk about opportunity and skill and talent. Yeah, it doesn't work. I love Cameron Artis Payne. That's a perfect handcuff that you can get late. And even if you don't have Jonathan Stewart, he's probably one of my favorite running backs targeting right now. So let's move on. All right. So we grabbed Jonathan Stewart and Brandon Marshall went right after Jonathan Stewart. As did Amari Cooper. Alfred Morris went in this round. T.J. Eldon went in this round. D. Jack's, Gurley. Quarterback run. Yes.
In the sixth round, somebody got in a memo that you have to draft a quarterback because seven quarterbacks went off the board. So, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Peyton, Cam Newton, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, and Ben Rothsberger are all gone in that round. It is so nice to not be a part of the runs. To not be a... Was that intentional? No. That was a Mikeism. Yeah. It's really nice to not have the runs.
But, yeah, I mean, I hate when all of the positions are flying off and you feel you're put in, oh, new, I got to draft this guy. It's so nice to start him or be at the very end. Well, let's talk a little bit about our decision earlier because we made the decision for the first time maybe all offseason to draft a quarterback. And I think that's good because we've never said don't draft Aaron Rogers ever. Right. We've said.
Generally, they go higher than what we think the value is. And so here he was sitting in the third round and now having a quarterback in place, the sixth round almost didn't exist for us. Right. Okay? Because seven of the 10 picks so far are quarterbacks. And so they're irrelevant to our draft board now and what we need at wide receiver and tight end and running back. And so because of that, let me give you some names that are on the board. Latavius Murray's on the board.
He would be under a bench. Alan Robinson's on the board. Martavis Bryant is still on the board. Oh, Marty McBee. So let's talk about Marty McBee. Okay. Marty McBride. In a PPR. Because he's very high for me in, he's probably, it probably surprised you, Mike to see where he was. I thought I was high on Bryant. Yeah. Where do you think? Have you looked at this? I don't remember the exact spot, but when I saw it, that was like jaw open. I have him at 11. That's insane.
That's insane. That needs to be adjusted. Well, we'll see. And part of that was because I had Antonio Brenn at 6.
Okay, so I have Brown a little bit lower because I think distribution is going to change with him in a full-time role on the outside, Bryant. And, you know, generally guys don't. I mean, you've seen this with Calvin Johnson. You've seen this with Andre Johnson. You've seen this with any of these top-tier. And they don't repeat. They don't continually ascend every single year. So you try to bet on guys that will make an adjustment. But, yeah, I have him exceptionally high. He does drop down in a PPR for me. So are you, Mike, are you leaning Alan Robinson at this stage? Because I think he could still drop.
I don't know if you guys heard it, but if you listen, listen close. Oh, no. The target monster is available and he's on my team immediately if I have the decision. Wow. Okay. So you would take, because you've got, you've got Marty McBee, Marty McBry in a PPR. I have no problem with Alan Robinson here. But he's our wide receiver too. How do you feel about that, Mike? I feel fantastic about that. Okay. Better than Mark.
