Fantasy Football 2018 - Trending or Ending, Tier Drop Candidates

probably going to go higher in any fantasy draft than I'd want to take him. I think that's a virtual guarantee. Because of his name, he will be drafted in that, you know, that second group of hopeful elites. What round are you thinking Des Bryant will go in? I think Des Bryant will probably go back of the third, top of the fourth. So top of the fourth, that's too early for you to take Des Bryant? It might be. I mean, it really will depend. Let's put some.

names out of this. Let's do that. Having a little experiment. Des Bryant or Jarvis Landry next? Well, that's a terrible one because we don't know where Jarvis Landry's going to play. All right. Josh Gordon or Des Bryant? Josh Gordon or Deslandry. Okay. I would go, Jeff Landry. Assuming that they have, you know, one of their, you know, if Case Keenham comes back or something like that. Demarius Thomas, we talked about him earlier.

Demarius Thomas or Des Bryant. That's a really good comp. Yeah, it really is. But to me, it's 100% quarterback. So if Denver goes out and gets Kirk Cousin, it'll be Demarius. If they are rolling with a rookie or trying to. Sammy Watkins back in L.A. with Jared Goff or Des Bryant? Des Bryant. That's where we disagree. I'll go Sammy. And I'll give you one last one. Alan Robinson, assuming he's back in Jacksonville or Des Bryant. Hey, Rob.

Yeah, I think I would go Alan Robinson. I know we haven't seen the full season of Des Bryant's with Dak Prescott. But Dak Prescott's rookie year, Des Bryant missed a couple games, but his full season pace was 10 touchdowns. It was not a bad year. His wide receiver fantasy finish was 32 because he missed three games. So I don't think it's not out of the realm of possibility, but unless they...

start getting creative with Des Bryant in that offense, then it's just going to be more of the same. I feel like I need to help you might because I feel like when you look at Des Bryant, it's kind of like you are judging your children's artwork. And they hand you the paper. They hand you the paper and you're going to find everything that you can appreciate from it. But at the end of the day, you're probably not going to be able to sell it.

That's how I feel about that. I'm just trying to wean you off. I don't want you going and hanging it on the wall and trying to sell it at an art show. Because I think that would have worked in 2014 and everyone would have bought it. Well, you might need to let your kid go. I mean, look, those reasons that you just brought up.

That was why I believed in him last year. Exactly. Because I saw the year before. It was like, oh, there was a connection. But the film, to me, was what showed. And ultimately, it's the draft cost. I mean, that's all that matters. It's not like you're not going to draft as Bryant. We're not saying that. I think a big problem here, and you just mentioned it a little bit as the play calling. I think Dallas's play calling is horrendous. I just putting it out there.

Sorry, Brooks. I know you're a Dallas fan, but you can't be happy if you're a Dallas fan. And I know you call plays for Dallas. So it has to be exceptionally offensive. You insult someone's mother. They get upset. Yeah. Or their kids are their team. Mike's like dirt drawings are beautiful. To be fair, my son is an artist. Yeah. I'm sure he is. Dad. Number four on trending or ending. I'm excited to talk about this one. I don't think we brought his name up enough.

For whatever reason, maybe it's the, you know, the quarterback play, not necessarily seeing a great future for the team. I don't know what it is. But Kenyon Drake, is he going to be a top 12 running back in 2018? Look, from weeks 9 through 16 last year, he was the RB7 in fantasy. You cannot argue with that. Production.

Tyree Kill. It reminds me of Tyree Kill the year before. Right. He was on our trending or ending episode, and we saw a week 9 through 16 comp for Tyree Kill, and he was the wide receiver 10 during that span. We saw a running back for that team do the exact same thing two years ago. For what team? For the Dolph? For the Dolphs. Oh, sure. Sure. So when you're comping to Tyree Kill, why would you not comp to Jay Ajai? Sure. Who's second half of the season was an MVP for fantasy purposes. Absolutely. Now, King and Drake?

I'm afraid of Kenyon Drake. All right. That's the question. Next year. I think he's an excellent player. He was not given this job until they traded someone away and Damien Williams got hurt. As Jason likes to say, Damian Williams stinks. So bad. It took an injury to him to move Kenyon Drake off the death chart. Now, I know that those things happen. Coach's miss. And then they.

They fix the error of their way once a player produces. They go, oh, holy crap. Kenyon Drake's a pretty good running back. I think that Kenyon Drake will be overdrafted. He had the back-to-back games where he became the starter where he had 20 plus carries, but then it dropped down. I just don't, I don't want people to get the stars in their eyes for Kenyon Drake of automatically assuming that he is this, going to be the primary guy. Ryan Tannenhill is back most likely.

for this offense. What will they look like? Will they be any good? We talked about things to remember. You need a running back on a good team. Will the Dolphins actually be any good next year? And Willie of the job. There's just so many questions for me on Kenyon Drake and that draft price. I mean, where do you think Kenyon Drake's going to go? Because I think he will go in second round. I heard it the lays. Well, that'll depend on whether he's handed the keys. Right. But we won't. I mean, we won't know that. We know how Miami's offseason hype train.

Works. Everyone's great. Everyone is the best player. Everyone's going to touch the ball 50 times a game. Julius Thomas. Yeah, look, I mean, you guys remember back in the 2016 draft, he was one of my favorite running ranks going into the draft. I loved Kenyon Drake. I was very sad. I got a Drake, man. I got a Drake. Yeah, I loved him. And I was so sad that his rookie year, he didn't get involved. And you're right to caution people.

the fact that he was still behind Damian Williams. However, I think he was also part of why they were able to trade Jay Ajai away. It wasn't like they traded Jay Ajai away and went, we did that because we wanted to have terrible running backs. They did that because they thought they had a guy. It was this regime that drafted Kenyon Drake in the third round. And I think if they saw something in college that I saw to give a third round draft pick.

you know, on him. Then they saw the end of last year where he's great. He's fast. He produces, yes. He breaks open plays that other guys can't do, you know, that, you know, it's like when you watch the Cardinals and they have David Johnson and then they give the ball to someone else, you go, oh, he'll never catch that corner. You see that out of Kenyon Drake. So I'm going to say that it is a trend, and I think it's going to stick. I think next year, I won't call him a top 12 running back next year, but his being a quality.

higher in running back succeeding. I think that will continue. He will be drafted as a top 12 running back. I doubt it. I think you will. And I'm going to weigh in here. And I think that he is more of a complimentary piece to a multi-back back field. That's how he's multi-back. Multi-back. Multi-back. Like New England, like Philadelphia. We're recording this show.

on Valentine's time. On Wednesday. And so if you, at the top of the show, I'm just getting word of a tragedy that's taken place in Florida, another high school shooting. So I just wanted to take a quick second since this, you know, this doesn't come out until tomorrow. Share our prayers. Share our thoughts. You know, just another one of those absolutely unspeakable things.

reports that I see are multiple fatalities in another high school, and we're all shaking our head, just heartbroken over that. So thoughts and prayers for those of you out in Florida and those dealing with that tragedy. And not the exact thing I wanted to bring up in the middle of the show, but also something I wanted to speak to now, as we don't know all the details, but I didn't want it to be ignored either. Let's get back into it. Trindigar ending, let's talk about Lamar Miller. I think he's a very interesting case.

Lamar Miller, like, let's fast forward a year from now. And we're sitting here reflecting on the season. I think we're either going to be reflecting on this season with, man, those of you that drafted Lamar Miller got a steal, or we're going to be reflecting on, man, those of you that took a chance with him. He washed out of the league. He's the Ryan Matthews of yesteryear. So he was an RB1, two years in a row, an RB2, two years in a row now. This is his third year with the Texans.

And the question that Brooks put in our doc is a good one. Well, does Sean Watson save Lamar Miller? And what are the possible outcomes for him? Jason, you were shaking your head throughout that summation. What do you think? Or nodding? No, I was nodding. Yeah, I was nodding in agreement that he is. I mean, Lamar Miller will be great or irrelevant next year. I don't think there's a middle of the pass situation where he's just. I don't even know what the middle of the pass would be. That's usually where you go through. Yeah. I thought it was more of a pack. Middle of the road.

No, it's middle of the pack. Middle of the pack? Yeah. All right. You've never heard that? Sure. I've heard of the middle of the road, too. It's where I drive. Anyways. Should have let it go, Mike. I'm sorry. You know, if you knew, I think that the running back for Houston next year will be great with Watson. And so Lamar Miller to me is a question of the health of.

Deontiformant because Deontiformant started coming on at the end of last year until he unfortunately ruptured his Achilles and was out. And, you know, if he was back, if he was healthy, I wouldn't doubt that they cut Lamar Miller just because of the cap number that they could, you know, save there and move on, draft another running back. I think because of Deonteforman's injury, they're going to have to keep Lamar Miller. And he was great with...

Watson. In those games, the first part of the year. I have the numbers, Jason, because I thought that too. Because on film, Lamar Miller looked better. Give me those numbers. I'm really looking forward to what you're saying. In the five games in Watson. How many games did Watson play? He started the second half of the first. This is the Watson Flame games.

This is when after his prime time game where he saved everything with that really long run, but the game was terrible overall. And then he went human torch, said flame on and just incinerated everyone. And what week did he get injured? He played five games. His last game was the one against Seattle. But in those games, Lamar Miller had 17 carries for 60 yards and three receptions for 27 yards. Now, he had two rushing touchdowns in that time.

But those rushing numbers, that's 3.57 a carry. The final nine games that Lamar Miller played, he was at 3.88 yards per carry. And then you have the final three games where they just stopped using him. His snap rate went down to 38.2. And Alfred Blue, who's not even under contract with the team this year, so they didn't say, well, we're going to take an eval here.

and see what we got for Alford Blue moving next year. They took a guy who's not going to be on the team. They took a guy who will not be on the team next year. They're saying, hey, we're out of it. Let's go ahead and rest you for next year since you're so good, Lamar. So I have my Lamar Miller concerns. You paint some, you, you paint with a scary brush. I apologize. No, that's good. I hope that Deonté Foreman gets healthy because I'm with you. I love Deontse form. If Deonti Foreman could be healthy.

With the Sean Watson. Very interesting. Very interesting. Last year on the trending or ending show, I just wanted to look back a little bit. We talked about whether DeMarco Murray and the resurgence would continue. He was the RB5 in 2016. That ended. That ended. We had rookie sensations, Jordan Howard, Michael Thomas, Dak Prescott. We saw the ups and downs of those trends, those...

Hot hype trains? I do want to qualify. The numbers I gave, those were what he averaged per game. Because when I said he had 17 carries for 50 or whatever the yard it was. I assumed it was not over the course of five games. Yeah, I just want to make sure. Because what I remembered is I think through the first five weeks of the season, Lamar Miller was the running back 11 and half point. Yeah, he was still all right. He had a couple touchdowns, which really helped his fantasy value in that time. Just wasn't as good as we remember. We talked about Cam Newton.

He had declined in fantasy rank down to QB19. That trend ended. He became a relevant fantasy quarterback again. Jeremy Hill had been trending down, down, down. And he went as far down as he could go this year. Legerrett Blunt, we wanted to know if his production would continue. He surprised everybody. He looked like he flamed out in Philly, and then he became very relevant.