Top 10 QB Rankings + Evolving Opinions, Deshaun Warlock - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/13

Russell. Russell Wilson Wilson at number five. It's been ringing a lot of guff my way on social media. Mr. Unlimited. Unlimited. Yeah. Unlimited. We respect you, Russ, as a player on the field. Here's this fantasy finishes since he came into the league. 11833-9194.

Russell Wilson. Sounds like a telephone number. Was up and down last year. We had the adventures with Russell Wilson. A couple weeks inside the top five, drops down to 18. A couple weeks inside, 18, 17. Number one overall, 14, 19, 16. You couldn't quite predict when they'd need Russell to be Mr. Unlimited and when they wouldn't. Go ahead. The first 10 weeks of the year last year where he was, I mean,

He was really good. He scored well and was a high-end fantasy quarterback going into week 11, into their by week. And yet you had five weeks where he was a top five quarterback, week-winning weeks. You had five weeks where he was not in the top 12. He wasn't in the top 14. I mean, 14 was his best in the other five games. So it was certainly.

To your credit, Mike, you were down on Russ, and the consistency was not there. This was a team that wanted to run the ball. Right. And when they found success and didn't need Russell Wilson to do it. That's the irony. He's Mr. Limited. Yes. By his own offensive system and the kind of paradigm in Seattle. Do you guys want to play a game? Oh, yes. Yes.

I'm happy to hear. Oh, man. I don't mind. So this game, shout out to Kyle the Borgogan. Yeah, our editor. And he has a game for us that's over the last four years. And this game is called Russell Wilson. Oh, no. Or Andy Dalton. Oh, my good. This is four years. This is while Russell Wilson has been the quarterback four, quarterback nine, quarterback one and quarterback nine. I can't wait. This is my favorite game of all time. All right. Question number one.

Russell Wilson or Andy Dalton, completions per game. I'm going to go Dalton. Yeah, Dalton. Higher passing. More volume. We started off with a softball there. Yes. Andy Dalton, just over 21. Russell Wilson, just over 20. So I mean, very close. And I will say all of these numbers are, in fact, very close. 300-yard games. So those really big games that they get it done through the air.

The last four seasons, Russell Wilson or Andy Dalton. That's got to be Andy. I'm going to go, Andy. It is Andy Dalton who has 11 of them compared to 10 for Russell Wilson. Still. That's total games.

Yes. Total 300 yard games. I know Andy Dalton has missed games and Russell hasn't. No, these are total games over 300. Yeah. And the games played is in fact 56 for Andy Dalton, 64 for Russell Wilson. So eight fewer games yet through more 300-yard games. Yeah. Let's go with passing yards per game. Russell Wilson or Andy Dalton. Well, based on the 300-yard games, I'm going to go with Andy Dalton. Let's hear it.

Oh, it's Russell Wilson. He still has Andy Dalton beat out on that one. But here comes the real humdinger. It's always nice to beat Andy Dalton. The grand finale fellas, the last four seasons. Uh-oh. Russell Wilson or Andy Dalton, who has more rushing touchdowns? Oh, that's, that's dirty. That's only there because Andy Dalton wins it. I mean, that's... Yes, that's dirty. Okay, it's Andy Dom. It's Andy Dolm. It's Andy Dolm.

Andy Dalton's the better rush. That's definitive. He's the better rushing quarterback. You heard it here. So what do you do? All these fun games, jokes aside, laughing about the inconsistency on a weekly basis, the supreme consistency on a career basis. And the ceiling, Russell Wilson's ceiling is, when he gets there, it's very, very vaulted. Every year that goes by that Russell Wilson doesn't get a chance to.

Throw the ball as much as people want them to because his efficiency is always insane. I mean, 31 touchdowns, five interceptions last year. Every year that goes by, it becomes compounded, the frustration from Seattle fans that want to see them do it.

or fantasy owners don't want to see him be more consistent. I will never draft Russell Wilson in fantasy football. His price right now is the QB3. He deserves all the respect of being arguably the best quarterback in football. And I mean that. Like he's arguably the best quarterback in football. He should be in the conversation. Yeah. And, you know, sure, Mahomes, maybe Lamar. But I would put Russell at two behind Mahomes. That's how I would have it as well. And he's being drafted to what you're talking about. He's being drafted in front of DAC and.

Kyler Murray. It's just, I'm not taking the chance with Russell right there. Yeah, because the range of outcomes week to week is too vast for the draft investment. Yeah, I agree. But can he finishes the quarterback one? Of course. Of course he could. And could he win you three or four weeks in a row? Yes. He will. I mean, if you have them and you start him every week, he will win you several weeks. It's just a matter of the other ones when he lets you down.

Yeah, and I mean, he has weapons, too. I mean, D.K. McCaff taking the step forward. Tyler Lockett is a phenomenal wide receiver who has a mind meld with Russell Wilson. And, you know, Philip Dorset just moves in offense. Philip Dorset is perfect for this offense, right? Just have, I mean, you think Russ isn't going to hit a couple bombs to Philip Dorset? Drew Breeze, number six on our rankings, five for me, four for Jason, seven for Mike. He was outstanding to end the year after coming back from injury.

This is one of the best teams in football when you have Michael Thomas available at any moment. And then you add Emmanuel Sanders. I think you have a real stable baseline. And the price you pay for Drew Breeze in fantasy leagues is, well, his age is baked into it. I mean, he's the QB7 off the board. It's the back of the seventh round. I've drafted him later than that in many drafts. So Drew Bree is kind of, you know, he doesn't give you that flash.

But he is going to throw probably 30 to 35 touchdowns in this offense, if not more. Drew Brees is, he's tough simply because he was locked in. He was a fantasy football legend, you know, since 2011, where he was cruising along as the number one, number one, number two. Like he was always a top six guy. Then the offense shifted the last couple years. And I'm talking about 2017 and 18.

heavy heavy rush rushing attack rushing touchdowns with mark ingram and alvin's got great and now it it changed a bit last year so you know drew breeze his touchdown percent over the last three years was 5.4 percent it went up to the highest touchdown percent of his career so i am and this is just i'm playing devil's advocate over here because i like drew breeze i like the adding emmanuel sanders

to this roster makes the passing attack much better for Drew Breeze. I have my concerns, though, because he could go either way. You could go where he still finished as a top 12 quarterback in 2017. But that was the year where I'm trying to remember the stat off the top of my head where he pretty much was not a top 12 quarterback on a weekly basis.

but still finished in the top 12 because he played all 16. He was consistent. And he was never had bust games. He was always just okay. He was an absolute floor play. He's never been in the top eight with Michael Thomas. Well, yes. He would have been in like the second half of last year, but he missed a bunch of time with the hand injury. When he came back in week eight from that point on, he was the quarterback four.

He burned it down. You saw it last year. He was phenomenal, so I'm not worried about the age. You add Emmanuel Sanders. This offense is great. What Mike is saying is it's just a matter of how do the touchdowns go in? Because the touchdowns are coming for the Saints. This is a team of great continuity in a year of crazy change. I love the Saints. I love the Saints offense. I want Camara. I want Breeze. I want Michael Thomas. I'm all in. I want Jared Cook. It's just a matter of when they get.

in the red zone. Do they happen to throw the touchdowns in or run the touchdowns in? Because you know the yardage will be there. You know the quality play will be there. 22 more touchdowns than Aaron Rogers over their last 25 games combined. Really? Yeah. Last 25 games. Drew Bree, 64 touchdowns, Aaron Rogers, 42 touchdown. Woof. It's crazy. Yeah. Deshaun Watson comes in at number seven. The Packers don't love that.

Oh, I see what you did, my man. I liked it. It's a Jordan Love Joe. It's a Jordan Love joke. You used his last name in a sentence. For the Packers, who drafted him after trading up to get him. Oh, man. Tell me more about this joke, Jason. Well, number seven on our top ten list, Jordan Love. Jordan Love comes in at number seven. No, Deshawn Watson.

Mike, you got him up at five, a lot of confidence there. If you ask me for a few more players that I am rising on in fantasy drafts, Will Fuller's actually on that list. Will Fuller, he says he is healthy. It's all we have to go off of right now. But we know that a healthy Will Fuller with Deshaun Watson historically, like last year was a little bit rough, but historically has been.

Fantasy fire. I love hearing Will Fuller say, if I stay healthy, this guy's the limit. Like, he knows the truth. I like that that he can look in the mirror and say, that's the problem. I get hurt all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Step one is admitting that you have a problem. Sure. And he's done it. So that now he can actually work on this because, you know, Andy, we played a game in the, in the studio. You had us play a game Will Fuller or O'Dell Beckham. And the numbers were shocking.

Will Fuller is great if he stays on the field, which is great for Deshaun Watson. Yeah, they were shocking. Will Fuller, more top 10 weeks than O'Dell Beckham over the last three years. Yeah, that's wild. But Deshaun Watson, he loses DeAndre Hopkins. When you combine that with the fact that, you know, your big addition is Brandon Cook's.

David Johnson in the backfield. Randall Cobb. Very difficult schedule. We've walked through Houston's first seven games. It's a tough schedule, especially at the very top of the year. You don't have the rapport with these guys the way you did with DeAndre Hopkins for those big games. I do wonder if Watson's just kind of off the board in terms of, you know, if you draft him, let's put it this way. If you draft him, you have to pay a price that says you're starting him every single week. The season starts very difficult.

for Houston, and you don't know who he's going to have their rapport with. There seems to be more risk with Watson. He's in the sixth round, same as Dak, same as Kyler. I mean, behind him, but in that range, and in that range, I just don't see the same upside or consistency, even though I do like Deshaun Watson. And I'm not worried too much about the schedule, because my belief is this. When they are playing a good team and they are losing, they will have no...

chance other than put the ball in Deshaun Watson's hands and have him make magic. And I think he will make magic. So I don't, you know, it's one of those things where when the team needs Watson, I think he'll come through. I'm a big believer in the talent. But when you lose Hopkins, you have an injury plagued. I mean, look at his, you can argue that his three main wide receivers, depending on where you put Randall Cobb, you know, could be Will Fuller, Brandon Cooks and Kenny Stills. Those are.

three of the more injury prone guys, you know, out there. So it's tough to trust. You had, I mean, you had some problems last year and you couldn't always predict it with Deshaun Watson. He threw zero touchdowns against Jacksonville in week two, which came out of nowhere. Zero against Carolina in week four. See what I mean? It's the bad teams that he's not as good. Yeah, but no, no, Jason. Baltimore, he threw zero and he finished 28th at the quarterback position in Baltimore and week 11 as well. So he had, I mean, he had.

Zero touchdowns against Tampa in week 16. There were four games last year where he threw zero touchdowns. And another three where he only threw one. So there were disappearing acts from Deshaun Watson last year. Yeah. And that was with Hopkins. And they were difficult to predict. And he's a great player. But he also tries to do too much sometimes. He reminds me a lot.