Kyle Murray upgraded to full in practice yesterday. Which is great news. Yeah, and they're in a tailspin of sorts. You know, they've lost three or four games. The only one they won was a Hail Mary. And how do you think about DeAndre Hopkins right now? This is the lowest he's been ranked by us all year. He has to face Jaylon Ramsey. Three out of the past four weeks, been kind of disappointing.
Week 13 Matchups + Tilt Talk, Pigeon Theft! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/4
Week 13 Matchups + Tilt Talk, Pigeon Theft! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/4
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154 passagesfor one of the target leaders in football. He's really, when you look at his fantasy finishes, has been boom-bust. He's either been a top 10 guy or he has finished outside of the wide receiver 3 range. Essentially, he's either top 10 or he's outside the top 40, which is wild. I don't like the matchup against Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey has been used in true shadow coverage twice this year. It was against D.K. Metcalfe and Mike Evans.
And both of those, while those players were in coverage from Jalen Ramsey, they got shut down. So you have your concerns, but you're not benching DeAndre Hopkins. You don't bench elite players just because they're in a poor matchup. Yeah, the Rams are in the top 10 against all positions over the last six weeks. They've been a dominant defense, which throws some shade on, you know, is Kenyon Drake going to get into the end zone? That's what he's needed this year to be productive.
Is Kyler Murray going to have the ceiling you want and have expected from him all year long? I don't think so. I think this is going to end up being a bad game for the Arizona Cardinals' offense. The Rams, we've talked about it. They're phenomenal on the season. They are the most difficult matchup for quarterbacks, fantasy points given up. For wide receivers, they are the most difficult matchup for fantasy points given up on the season. For running backs, they are the sixth most difficult matchup. They're just really, really.
difficult to score on. This defense has figured it out with Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey is a real one-two punch that teams have not figured out. And I think that the only safer option is Kyler if he runs the ball again. And I do expect that he will get back to the running ways. We're three weeks now from the shoulder injury. I don't think you bench Kyler, even though it's tough. If I could move on from Kenyon Drake.
And Hopkins, we say, you know, you're going to play your studs. It's possible that, you know, you've gotten Alan Robinson and a Devante Parker, if Fitzpatrick plays, where I would sneak kind of high-level guys like that over Hopkins. And that's how I would be willing to bench him. But I think the only safe option is Kyler because of the rushing base. About on the other side of the ball. Cooper Cup.
Yeah, look, the Cardinals have been terrible against wide receivers. I don't think Patrick Peterson is going to shadow either of their two studs, so I'm starting Cup and Woods. Okay. I was saying the Cooper Cup over Hopkins. Is Cooper Cup high enough in that list? No. Man, I feel like if push came to shove, I would start Cooper Cup over Hopkins. Cooper Cup has been even more boom bust than Hopkins has been. Boom, boom, bust? Boom, bust. I mean.
It's just a matter of the matchup to me because I get it. I realize. I mean, that's tough. And you've got to make the call yourself, obviously. But, you know, the last six weeks, Arizona Cardinals have been the 30th best against wide receivers. Yeah, they're giving up almost 40 fantasy points a game. Are you willing to start any running back on the Los Angeles side? No, not with the potential that Cam Acres is the guy. I mean, the hot hand approach here and Cam Acres.
was the one who had the hot hand last week. So he's the one I want to stash on my bench. But this is a, it's been a disaster all year. The New York Giants at 4 and 7 take on the 8 and 3 Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks 10 point favorites. It's 47.5 point over under. Daniel Jones did not practice on Thursday. Colt McCoy is likely to be behind center. And with this kind of somewhat showing signs of life defense, you can play Seattle's defense this week.
Yes, I believe you can. They've improved personnel-wise. Pete Carroll's obviously a good defensive coach always has been. And against a backup quarterback, yeah, you can play Seattle for sure. All right. What about this guy? Unlimited. It's been slow going for Russell Wilson compared to that hot start over the last four weeks, zero inside of the top 10 at the quarterback position. Welcome to the routine.
of Russell Wilson. And there's some thoughts that healthy Chris Carson, Carlos Hyde, this team might get a little bit back to their ways. They've cut the gas. Well, if your defense improves, it lets you cut the gas, right? You don't have to let Russ cook because eventually mistakes are made when you throw the ball that many times. We started to see it. Chris Carson's Jason's start of the week, so I know we're playing him because we love Jason and we believe what he says. Oh, thanks guys. And D.K. Metcalf is...
unbelievable. He leaves the NFL in receiving yards. It's not a, you know, you don't think about benching D.K. McHaff in any situation. Where are you at with Tyler Lockett right now? Because his name came up when you thought about like DeAndre Hopkins or Tyler Lockett. Lockett's had his struggles as well. I know you have to play him to get the boom games, but that's also what we said about Hollywood. Lockett last week, 73rd, 3 for 23 against Philadelphia. That was a huge disappointment.
on 90% of snaps. Yeah, it turned into everything was DK Metcalf. I mean, they thought that Slay could handle Metcalf and they were handled by. They were incorrect about that assumption. But, I mean, before that, you had two straight weeks of nine targets, nine against Arizona, nine against the Rams, seven targets against Buffalo. As long as...
Lockett is seeing a target share like that. You can play him. The result hasn't always been great. But the opportunity, that type of an opportunity for Tyler Lockett, he's in play. It's just adjusting. It's crazy. So that the person who is the wide receiver six on the season, you're like, oh, yeah, I'll put him into my flex position. But yeah, it's so boom bust. But that's where we are.
Five games outside the top 50 this year for Tyler Lockett, and yet he's had some weeks where he does what Tyreek did last week. He wins you the entire week on his performance. The question is whether they'll need a lot of this passing game. Colt McCoy throwing the football, I mean, are you playing Evan Ingram after last week with Colt McCoy?
Yeah, I'm still willing to play Evan Engram just because it's the tight end position and he should see volume. 129 yards. We finally saw a breakout game for Evan Engram. Yeah, I think he is the one player that you can somewhat rely on. Maybe, you know, Wayne Galman. I would keep playing Wayne Galman. In a pinch, you can, you could start him. Outside of that, I don't want any of the other pass catching options with Colt McCoy.
I got bamboozled in this show doc right now. Yep. Did you get it as well? Yes. His name is written in here is Wayne Goldstones. And then I clicked it to go to our player profile on the fantasy footballers.com. And it links to a WebMD article about gallstones. I did not go that far. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to see how Galman's been performing over the last few weeks. What can you tell us about Galston? Yeah, let's.
focus here on the Goldstones. Oh, now it's been, Brooks updated it for me. So, but Goldman, he's a top 16 running back for five straight weeks. I have to take the volume there. He had 29 opportunities against Cincinnati. You don't bench that. No, no, you do. And what's amazing, all five games, guys. Touchdown. Yeah, all five games. David Montgomery is begging for a touchdown.
Yeah, I don't think that the touchdowns will come this week with the backup quarterback, but the opportunity says that you can start and continue starting Wing Goldman. The Eagles are 3, 7 and 1. They're taking on the Green Bay Packers sitting at 8 and 3. Packers are 8.5 point favorites. It's a 48 point over under. Not really the matchup to get the Eagles offense back on track. Pretty good defense for Green Bay. They'll be at home.
11th against quarterback, seventh against tight ends. They have been more vulnerable on the ground. And I know that's where, well, not more vulnerable, extremely vulnerable. Everybody's running on Green Bay these days, which is why Mike has Miles Sanders as the start of the week. But outside of Miles Sanders, what are you doing? Nothing. No Carson. I mean, okay, Goddard. Even Goddard has a little bit more of a question mark. With Zacherts back? Yeah, because Zacherts, I know that there's been a lot of.
We've got a lot of conversations about Zach Ertz, but the truth is that Zach Ertz is a high target tight end. He may not be spectacular, but he will take targets away from Dallas Goddard, and he is the best friend of Carson Wentz in this offense. That's where he looks. I don't think Carson Wentz is going to look Goddard's way first if Ertz is healthy and back on the field. So it does make me feel like Goddard is touchdown dependent in this game, and the Packers' defense is pretty stout against opposing tight-ins, so I am a little bit worried.
Yeah, I get it. You can be worried, but we did see last year that these two could coexist and Dallas Goddard was worked out for fantasy. And that was, I mean, that's where another year into the career of Dallas Goddard, another year of experience where he was getting starter reps. He was the only guy. And he was like the only reliable target. After the fulgum breakout and he kind of disappeared, Dallas Goddard was the only reliable target for.
for Carson Wins. I'm willing to make a very stupid water bet that one of you, if not both of you, will accept. I'm sure I'll get in. And I will bet Jordan Aikins over Dallas got it this week. Oh, I'm in. Mike? Yes. Water bet. I told you I was willing to make a stupid bet. That's a man who was rostering a player and has a false bravado. If you saw, I was not rostering him last week when I thought Jordan Aikins was a decent start in that offense.
I still do. I think he's going to be a focal point. Can we retroactively bet Goddard versus Aiken's last week? We cannot. If I had the power, you know I would certainly do that. But outside of the tight end, are you playing Zach Ertz? No. No. No, never. Okay. So Zach Ertz.
What I love that quote like, you know, over the last six years. That's fine. Over the first six games where Zach Ertz was playing, my man was averaging seven and a half targets a week. That's great. That is fantastic. That's kind of my point with Goddard. Yeah. And that turned into one finish as a tight end one, one finish inside the top 15. Yeah. He was, he's been awful.
Port is six games, seven and a half targets a game, empty. Defining his entire career. This year, just saying this year. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I would, I would be picking up Ertz. I would roster him, but I do want to see him get back, get, you know, a full game in. Remember when Dallas Goddard came back from his injury, that first game back, even when he was alone, was not utilized. All right.
It's not hard work to go four yards from the line of scrimmage to turn around, Jason. That's the Zacherts of this year. That's why Alshan is on the field. It's not hard. And why is he so bad at it now? He, I, maybe, maybe you're misdirecting your anger, Mike. Maybe the Carson Wince that you've seen over this part of the year that we thought was actually okay. And we were blaming other things like the offensive line and everybody else. Maybe it's Carson Wince's fault. Maybe or maybe it's Mr. Clean's fault.
All right. On the other side, Rogers, yes, Aaron Jones, yes. Jamal Williams. Will you flex Jamal Williams? I am. I am flexing Jamal Williams. Are you really? Would you play them over T.Y. Hilton in a flex spot? Yeah, the flex spot, probably not because for the flex spot, I'm really going for upside. I'm factoring in my other positions are safer.
But Jamal Williams, I think, is a flex play right now. The opportunity is being split up between him and Aaron Jones. I would play him over T.Y. Hilton. You would? I would. Because T.Y. Hilton has a 50-50 chance at 1 for 20. I mean, that's what he's done for this entire year. Williams will have 10 opportunities in this game. At least. At least. He had 17 last week. He had 7 the week prior. Mm-hmm. I don't think Williams is a guarantee for...
volume. I do expect them to split it up, but obviously he's not as good as Aaron Jones, not as effective or as efficient with it. I think if you don't get a touchdown, you're going to be disappointed if you started Jamal Williams. Devante Adams, yes. What about Alan Lazard? Are you, he's got four plus targets in every game this year, been banged up, was limited on Thursday. I expect him to play. Are you playing him? Hopefully not. Hopefully not yet. And Robert Tunyon tied in for the Green Bay Packers, Jason's start of the week.
