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Week 4 Buy or Sell + PANIC ROOM Players - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/30

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Week 4 Buy or Sell + PANIC ROOM Players - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/30

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Okay, Chris Godwin had his MRI confirmed a mild hamstring pull out for week four, possibly week five. I would count on him out both weeks. Yeah, week five, they are the Thursday night game, so it's a, you know, the shorter week. Then he gets 10 days if he skips it. Yeah, so anticipate Godwin out for two weeks. Deontay Johnson's in the concussion protocol. Now he is a part of that game, so this extra day or two could actually make him active. Dallas Goddard, Jalen Rager, both placed on short-term IR.

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We knew that. Both players were going to be out for quite some time. Henry Rugg's a long shot this week. Brian Edwards is already out. Hunter Renfro. Hello, Hunter Renfro. I mean, he's going to be heavily targeted. Yes, he is. Darren, I am the Wallerous. Goo Goo Joob should have quite a bounce back week here after being shut down by the Patriots. But yes, the not obvious pick would be Hunter Renfro is very interesting now. You want to get in on some Nelson Aguilar, Jason?

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Is that on your list of replacements for Corey Davis this week? No, I mean, I think I would rather just get really sick and barf a lot than have to rely on Nelson Haggard. But, you know, you can choose your path for yourself. It's barf now, barf later, yeah. Lev Bell targeting a week five return. It's interesting. I thought about making some trades for Lev Bell. Now, let me make the case. I mean. Okay.

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People are very embittered with the start to the season. They invested, no, it wasn't a first or second round pick on Lev Bell, but you still thought he'd be one of your starters. He's coming back here in a couple of weeks, so you could get ahead of acquiring him, and Adam Gaze could be gone. And a new head coach. Good point. A new head coach coming in. Let me give you a little tip here. Lev Bell Greater sign, Frank Gore, Lev Bell, greater sign, Kalen Belage.

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This is known to everyone except for Adam Gays. That's my point. So if right now you, let's say the Lev Bell manager is 0 and 3 and needs help now. Sure. You could target Lev Bell on the cheap ski. Just the thought. Yeah. No, it's possible. You know, you had me at Adam Gase could be gone. That's really where, because the truth is leading up to the season, I was.

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You know, early in the offseason, we were kind of talking about, look, the volume's just going to be there. If he touches the ball, you know, 250 to 300 times over a 16-game season, yeah, he might be not the love bell of old, but he will be decent for fantasy. And then as we approached closer to the season, we realized, look, Frank Gore is going to be a thing. Adam Gase is going to be a thing. And, yeah, I think maybe we get back to the volume play we hoped for.

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in Lev Bell. He hasn't looked spry. So I don't, I don't think he's going to be a star, but I think he could be a really solid running back. Definitely didn't look spry once the, once the hamstring went. Yeah. Okay. And then I think that's all we have for news right now. We will, we'll break in if Al Borland finds any more COVID-related news. I do want to remind everybody out there as we move into the panic room segment.

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What are we laughing at? I'm laughing because if you're on the YouTube, look, we made a decision today. Jason is remote, remoting into the show. And so on the YouTube, we've had him in the corner of the show. And some feedback came in. They said they want him in his spot. They feel more comfortable with Jason's video in his actual spot on the show. And so we've got him like in his spot.

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But then we went to the slider cam, which is our panning cam, and he's still in his spot, which I don't know how you wizards back there worked that out. I assume he's not moving at all. Okay, they're not. It just surprised me to still see him on the screen. All right, it's panic room time. All right, here's what we're doing. That's loud.

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Well, you got to let people know you're panicked. Yeah, that's level four panic. Now, there are four levels of panic, Mike. I don't know if you knew this. The world of panic levels, it's burgeoning. And so we've got level one, not panicked. Level two, somewhat worried. Level three, we're getting freaked out. Yeah. Level four? That's full on. Level four is, that's level four. Yes, all right. The alarms are going off. All right.

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And so we're going to bring up some players and we'll determine what level we're at. D.J. Moore. Panthers, wide receiver through three weeks. He's the wide receiver 29. He finished 49th in week 1, 14th in week 2, 50th in week 3. Only one red zone target on the year. He's not been, like if there's a Julio Jones in training, it's been.

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DJ Moore in terms of the touchdowns just doesn't find his way into the end zone. Six touchdowns in 34 career games. We talked about him as a breakout on the basis that look, these touchdown numbers have to go up with the amount of targets and receptions you're getting. Robbie Anderson right now is the wide receiver 10. I think that Robbie Anderson is also the reason why people are so freaked out about DJ Moore. Because there's a reason.

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Well, the reason being, I'm saying not just that there's someone else in this offense, which, like, that's a natural thing. Someone emerges and becomes another top option for the offense, but they are seeing Robbie Anderson's production, who he has scored. And that's the big difference between DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson.

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is ninth in targets, 14th and yards. He just hasn't scored. He has the fifth most air yards. You mean DJ Moore? Yes, did I say? You did say Robbie Anderson. I apologize. Yes. This is DJ Moore. Like the peripherals are there. He is just not scoring touchdowns. Now, you can say, I am panicked because now we have quite the history of not scoring. Of DJ Moore, not scoring touchdowns, maybe.

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This is a Julio Jones problem where DJ Moore is going to always have a bunch of receptions, a bunch of yardage. He just won't put up the touchdowns. That may be. But my level of panic on DJ Moore is nothing more than a two. He is still heavily involved in the offense. Somewhat worried. Yeah, it's fair because I was hoping for more touchdowns and buying into the positive touchdown regression for DJ Moore. Meanwhile, the schedule for DJ Moore, Arizona.

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Atlanta and like those are two very strong or two strong matchups here for DJ Moore and the Carolina Panthers. So I am not freaked out, but it's okay to be a little bit worried through three weeks. I'm closer to level three than I am to level two because I thought DJ Moore would give me a DJ floor, Mike. And if he doesn't get into the end zone, finishing is the wide receiver 50.

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two of his first three weeks. It concerns me. It's one of the reasons I wasn't as bullish on Carolina. It wasn't that I didn't think they could do it. It's that I hadn't seen them actually do it with the new head coach, with Robbie Anderson, with Teddy Bridgewater. It concerns me. I'm probably a little bit more level three than level two. Jason, where are you on the panic scale? I am a level one. I am not.

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Panicked at all. DJ Moore would be someone that I would be targeting on the cheap. Now, I will say this. The hope for the huge breakout. You're going to have a top six wide receiver, a top 10 wide receiver just who's dominant. Sure, I'm not confident in that in the slightest. It does not appear that this is going to be a monster breakout, but I'm also not panicked at all. DJ Moore is going to be great for fantasy this season. The targets, like Mike said, they've been there.

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He is getting the targets. This last game stunk because the Carolina Panthers were winning and they won and they weren't throwing the ball that much. I mean, their leader in targets was their running back. This is not going to be the normal game script for the Carolina Panthers. If you're telling me that he's getting more like what we saw the first two games, nine targets, 13 targets, he's a hyper talented athlete, a great wide receiver. He'll get his. So I'm not worried about DJ more at all.

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All right, Odell Beckham Jr. Right now he's the wide receiver 38 on the season. It's looking pretty similar to last year to me with Odell Beckham Jr. Now, panic is relative to expectation. I would say that this is a difficult one. I mean, he was 15th last week, 47th, I'm sorry, 47th last week, 15th the week before against Cincinnati. He gets to play Dallas this week. 22 targets.

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You always have those peripherals with Odell where he's got the, you know, sixth highest target share in football, 28%, fifth highest air yard share. But these have been there for him. I mean, he's been a high target share guy in Cleveland. It just hasn't equated to very much. 7.9 fantasy points, then 15 the week before, then three. He's come out and said he knows he's not going to put up prolific numbers in this offense with Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt. So.

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Define panic on O'Dell Beckham and what that means, because I'm having a hard time. Yeah, you have to just accept the tier adjustment for O'Dell Beckham. I don't think that the talent has changed. I think that he could be a dominant wide receiver if you were in a different situation, but the situation has strongly capped what is going to happen with O'Dell Beckham. I was a big supporter of Baker Mayfield.

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It's not looking great for Baker to be that number one pick that the Cleveland Browns thought they were getting. I think he'll be fine, but you've got to grow more and more concerned as you've from last year's performance from Baker, three games of you're like, okay, he's fine. He's finest starting quarterback. This team can win with him, but you're not going to get numbers from Odo Beckham. So it's,

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Once you have adjusted him down to, okay, Odo Beckham is a lower end wide receiver two, then I'm not panicked. If you are still hoping that you have a top 10 guy, you should be freaked out full. You should be on DefCon 4 here because that's, it's not going to happen. I think that, go ahead, Jay. The combination here of the Browns being a good team as far as their defense looks good.

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Their offensive line and running backs are great. They don't want to use Odell Beckham the way that fantasy managers want Odell Beckham used. And you're going to get a lot more, a lot more bad games than good games. And so, yeah, I'm a three here. Mike laid it out well. It's about expectation. But Odell Beckham is not a top 15 wide receiver and won't be while he's a brown.

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Yeah, I think most games are going to end up being, I mean, the difference between last week where he was outside the top 40 and the week before where he was inside the top 15 was essentially connecting on one deep shot. You're going to have some play action. You're going to have a deep shot or two. If Beckham hits the deep shot, you're going to be happy that week. And if he doesn't, you haven't seen volume in Cleveland to sustain, you know, hope.

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