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The hosts trace Mike from playing many games, to buying boxed games he never unwrapped, to keeping untouched digital copies tidy on his hard drive. His active Diablo IV phase is expected to end after marital consequences.
Jason celebrates changing a flat and driving home but immediately admits he could not do it alone: Al supported him by sending instructional videos, earning praise as a genuinely selfless real man.
The hosts announce Nicholas Barbary as winner of a signed Justin Jefferson jersey and state that Papa Josh will get it into the mail.
A Deucer's Alley camera reveals mean-looking backwards-hat Brooks, Kyle missing from his usual spot and jokingly stranded in the upside down, and new social-media employee Justin Rapp in the third seat. The hosts say nicknames must arise naturally but invite ideas beyond Rapp and 'Rap tap, tapping.'
A stylish shirtless maternity photo leads Mike to say that if he were sufficiently shredded, he might remove both shirt and pants, leave his wife out of the shoot, and photograph himself in briefs.
Jason wears one of his most prized possessions, a Yellowstone Dutton Ranch shirt, and says changing a tire makes him ready to wrangle cattle and handle Montana; the hosts add that he already thinks he can land a plane without trouble.
The hosts demand integrity and a serious spotlight before Mike reads Mark Andrews's line that Lamar Jackson's balls are incredible and on the money, then repeatedly insists it is a direct quote.
The hosts say Kyle would take Keenan Allen in any circumstance. Andy and Jason instead compare their injuries and championship scars to scorned lovers who cannot return, while Mike assumes Keenan will get him next.
When called a Cardinals fan, Andy denies it and says he has suspended the fandom like a subscription until the team comes out of its current depths, explicitly saying he quit for his health.
Jason calls himself basically a therapist and extremely good at it; the desk clarifies that he is not licensed, only bonded and insured.
Mike and Jason reveal a live offer on their co-managed Team Champ Champ Champ, identify three straight dynasty championships, and choose to keep Travis Kelce, Derrick Henry, and Davante Adams until the roster is dead and gone before rebuilding like a phoenix. They explicitly want a fourth title.
The opening tracks Mike's video-game life from heavy play, through buying shrink-wrapped games, to storing untouched downloads on his hard drive; his current Diablo IV binge is expected to end when marital consequences arrive. Jason counters with a flat-tire victory that only happened because Al Borland sent instructional videos, prompting sincere praise for Al's selflessness. A listener wins a signed Justin Jefferson jersey that Papa Josh will mail. The camera then visits Deucer's Alley: backwards-hat Brooks admits he is always embarrassed by his appearance, Kyle is missing in the 'upside down,' and new social-media employee Justin Rapp occupies the third seat while the hosts solicit a nickname beyond Rapp and 'Rap tap, tapping.' Other scene-ready tangents put a shredded Mike alone in briefs at his imagined maternity shoot, turn Jason's prized Yellowstone Dutton Ranch shirt and one changed tire into cattle-wrangling and airplane-landing confidence, and place Mike under a serious spotlight to read Mark Andrews's double-entendre quote. Kyle's automatic Keenan Allen devotion is contrasted with Andy and Jason calling themselves scarred, scorned Keenan lovers. Andy says he paused Cardinals fandom for his health, and Jason advertises himself as an unlicensed but bonded and insured therapist. The close reveals Mike and Jason's co-managed Team Champ Champ Champ has won three straight dynasty titles; they plan to pursue a fourth with Travis Kelce, Derrick Henry, and Davante Adams until the old roster is dead and gone, then rebuild like a phoenix.
You know, if I'm a defense playing against Tom Brady last year, I know what he's going to do. I know he's going to be checking this ball down, and I'm going to be sitting there waiting, ready to tackle the running back there. So he's interesting. I think that right now the running back, if I'm keeping Damien Pierce, I think most people are more excited about Pacheco than Rashad White. He would be my trade. Rashad White would be my cut just because people. I'm going to flip that. I think more people are into Rashad White than Pacheco. Yeah. Let's take an ADP, gander. Yeah, I mean, you could be right. I think I'd be more excited about the chiefs in general. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm seeing a client. I see Clyde Edwards a layer in these bestball drafts in the very, very last round now. And it's wild. Rashad White and Isaiah Pacheco are back to back in ADP right now. Rashad White is ahead. Okay. So I'm going to trade Rashad White too, Mike. It's tight.
Um, yeah, I'd go, you're not going to get much, Jason. I guess I'll trade for him, though. All right, let's, uh, who was your keep, Andy? My keep is Pierce. Okay. Yeah. Uh, D.K. Metcalf. Okay, we'll go cross positional here. Brooks is scheming up something difficult. D.K. Metcalf, Mark Andrews, Najee Harris, keep trade cut. Uh, we've talked about these players recently, especially D.K. Metcalf. Mark Andrews, I know you guys have been all about it. Yeah. Did you hear the latest quote for Mark Andrews? I don't even know if we can say it on this podcast. Oh, is this the one you guys posted earlier today? I'm just the messenger. You're just relaying news. Okay, so read it as a quote, not as you're saying it. Okay, I got to read it really straight. Okay, hold on. Like a news reporter.
Like somebody with integrity, so maybe not that. I have to pull up my, have to pull up the tweet because this is the type of thing that you. No, you don't want to get this wrong. You cannot get this thing. These aren't your words. These are not your words. These are the words of Mark Andrews. Okay. Thank you. Quote. Quote. Mark Andrews. Can you get the spotlight on Mike? Yeah, very serious. Just so that we get the quotes. Mark Andrews, when talking about Lamar Jackson, his balls are incredible. He's putting the balls on the money. Okay. That's it. That's it. No, that's a direct quote. And we'll just leave it there. Was that, I just want to remember, was that his balls are incredible? Yes. Okay, good. And, not just incredible. And on the money. Yeah. Because some people, it's just one. Right. Which that's embarrassing. Sometimes you've got them only on the money, but they're not incredible. They're mediocre, but they're on the money. That's Alex Smith. Oh, man.
We are. Poor Alex. Why got to drag him into this mess? It just, it wasn't incredible. It was on the money. So anyways, that's impacting your view of Mark Andrews. Metcalf, Andrews, Naji Harris. What are your thoughts? Keep trade cut. Oh, we're. Yeah. So these are three players, you know, that I think everybody wants, right? This is a keep, keep, keep situation. For me, at least, I know a lot of people are. O-U-T on Najee Harris. I think he's going to have an absolutely excellent season. He'll be a top 12 running back in fantasy for sure. I think he'll be top 10. Mark Andrews might be my favorite pick in all of fantasy though right now. Because, you know, I've talked a little bit about how overboard the Travis Kelsey.
The hype is on ADP. He's, you know, the fifth pick right now in underdog drafts on average. I've seen him in a real draft go as high as number two overall. And when I look at building rosters, I completely recognize the advantage that having a stud tight end provides you. And Kelsey is the only 100% lock guarantee minus injury to be that. But I love my roster with a first round. wide receiver or running back paired with a third round Mark Andrews much more than the opposite and spinning up for Travis Kelsey and having a third round running back, you know, take Najee here. If you were saying, would you rather have Travis Kelsey and Najee Harris or would you rather have Austin Echler and Mark Andrews? I would rather take Echler for the upside with Andrews. So Andrews is my keep for sure. That.
example makes sense who is the example Kelsey and Najee yeah and or Echler and Andrews well I don't draft Najee that's just a kind of right so it's a policy I should be an easy layup for you I do I I think I'd prefer taking Andrews there in that situation if I didn't have a tight end obviously and I'm taking the shot at the top end but I do like I mean I like some of the other tight ends that I like I don't think the Andrew's case is a 100% guarantee that you're happy with the pick That's my, that's been our only difference is that I see the route. I mean, I see the path. We've seen it for years. I just don't think it's 100% you're going to be happy with taking him in the third round. Partially because he's, he's been banged up before, partially because they've added a lot of other weapons. And I, I think he needs touchdowns to do it. Like, still, that case, Echler versus Noggi paired with Kelsey versus Andrews. I'd prefer that. Yeah, it's all of these. Could I have Echler and Meckaff, though?
Because in this situation, I could do that. These are all three third round players. So, yeah, you could end up where you took DK Metcalf. Can I have all three? You could, but that means you're drafting Najee and Metcalf in like the first and second round. That's a good point. That's a good point. So who is your keep here? Mine is Mark Andrews. I'm going to keep Andrews and I will trade D.K. Metcalf. I'm going to trade Najee and cut D.K. Metcalf. Yeah, I'm going to. Yeah, I'm going to cut nausea. I'm going to trade Andrews. I'll keep Matt Calf because I got them ranked too high, as they say. That is what they say. All right. Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley, Hollywood Brown. Cool, baby. Wow. Three wide receivers being drafted close together. Three players we have back to back to back in our rankings. Jason talked about Calvin Ridley when he took him.
In our recent mock draft episode, if you haven't seen it, go check it out YouTube. You can see the whole board. Keenan Allen. I know Kyle would take Keenan Allen in any and all circumstances. We know he ended strong. I'm tired of small samples with Keenan Allen. It's not always small. Small samples. Yeah. Keenan Allen always gives you real nice, tight samples. No. Yeah. Yeah. But as an experiential. Keenan manager, it's not always been a fun ride, Mike. I mean, 2021. For instance, he ruined my year last year. Okay. I mean, that's a for instance. Last year, yes, I get it. But 2021, wide receiver 14 in 16 games. I mean, that's the old means he only didn't appear in one game the year before that in 2020, the wide receiver 14 in 14 games. I mean, it's, he's, he has been on.
He missed the championship game that year. He also missed in the middle of the year. He's fine. He's fine. You can't think too much of him or he will hurt you. That's fair. They did draft. Mike Williams' replacement, yes. Clinton Johnston. Yes. Quinn and Johnston is not a Keenan Allen type of a player. They can't throw the ball to Johnston and Keenan on the same play. Right. That's why it will go to Keenan. They did not have viable options outside of. I mean, they just didn't have them last year. Joshua Palmer was the lead wide receiver that really never delivered on it. He was kind of like, okay, you're all alone. You give me a mediocre performance. Yeah, but a wide receiver, small sample, of course, but from week 11 on, he jumped in and he was averaging over 75 yards per game for that time spent. Yes, short. What about the games he was out? How much was he averaging? He was getting you zero, but at the same time, you knew that he was out. False.
I played him, and he got himself hurt again in one of those. He re-injured the hamstring immediately. So in one of those. But the majority of when he missed, you know he was going to miss. So you could just pure off-season burns. It really is. I mean, I did not. Give me Keenan Allen all day. Here's the thing. Hollywood Brown, we got a Wild Cards episode coming up. Range of outcomes. Hollywood Brown was in contention for me. Because I don't know what the heck's going on in Arizona. Hollywood Brown could go anywhere from a wide receiver 12 to wide receiver 35.
Yeah, I mean. So that's a hard pick here. I think Keenan is safer. The first six weeks last year, he was the wide receiver six, averaging 81 yards a game, Marquis Hollywood Brown was. I mean, you can't be much better than that. Now, granted, that was without Bionre Hopkins, but also granted, Hopkins is gone. That was a nice Keenan Allen style sample size that you use for him, too. Yeah, well, that one made sense because that was where, you know, where Hopkins was absent. We don't know the health of Kyler Murray. When I look at these three players, I think.
Who's got the highest ceiling? I'm going to assume right now that Kyler Murray is not ready week one. And if that's the case, I don't think Marquis Hollywood Brown can have the highest ceiling. Calvin Ridley, who has already been a top five fantasy option, obviously hasn't played in a long time. I don't hear you complaining about Calvin Ridley giving you zero points, Andy, for two straight years. First of all, I've not spoken on Calvin Ridley yet. A lot of risk with Calvin Ridley, far more risk than I would say either of the other players. However. his ceiling to me with Trevor Lawrence, if he develops into the one, I think he's got the highest ceiling. But the keep when you factor in the ceiling and the risk is Keenan Allen. That's what I'm keeping. It's hard for me to. Are you really? Yeah, I am. All this anti-Kinan talk. You can keep him, but then be reset in the right mindset for him. Yeah, he's extremely. He's not finishing in the top 12. He's not going to do that.
I think he very well. That's what I'm going to tell you. I will make you whatever bet you want. He's not going to do it. For Keenan? Yeah. He hasn't done it since 2019. He's not doing it this year when he gets older. How old is he? 51 years old. 51. No, he's 31. Do you know that Keenan Allen's about a year and a half older than Calvin Ridley? I am not arguing for Calvin Ridley. I'm arguing that Keenan cannot finish inside the top 12. That's all. He's not doing it. He'll be great if you want wide receiver like 16. When he came back from his hamstring injury, I'm just saying he was the wide receiver five from that point on the rest of the season. He averaged 15 fantasy points a game in half PPR. Little bitty baby stretch. New offensive coordinator. Yeah, he agreed. Not necessarily for him. Oh, it is. It is necessary. Didn't Mike Williams miss a bunch of time in that, in that stretch? Oh, and like he won't again. Quentin Johnson is there.
This is... Jalen Guyton is back. This is a keep Keenan Allen. If we're all keeping Keenan Allen, then the trade has to be Calvin Ridley. Because I could tell you in drafts, there's always... Is it sweaty in here? There's always a believer. Calvin Ridley, you know, a lot of times goes higher than the average league would think he would go, but that's because, you know, there's always those players that all it takes is one person to believe that they are going to hit their... potential. And if one person in your league believes that he's going to trade a lot for him, he's going to draft him really high, he's going to call his shot. Are you in my league? Am I in your league? I am in your league. Okay. Then I'm trading Calvin Ridley. Okay. Yeah, because I believe. Yeah, you do. I mean, it is a leap. Calvin Ridley belief is a big leap because there's a middle ground here. There's not Calvin Booms and Calvin Buss. There's also Calvin's just Zay Jones level. They don't dislike their current crew. Yeah, that would be a bus, though.
If he was Zay Jones, yeah. Well, for whoever drafts him where he's going in ADP, you would be very disappointed. You need him to be the number one in that offense. If he was. If he was. Christian Kirk last year, are you happy? I think that's a little bit more neutral. Yeah, you're not happy. You're not happy unless you. There's your, like, middle of the road. Yeah, that's fair. But, yeah, so I guess we're all keeping Keenan, trading Calvin, and cutting Marcus Hollywood Brown. Ew. That feels bad. That's just because you're a Cardinal fan. No, I'm not. You're not. Get it up. I quit for my health. You know how you can put like a subscription on Pallas? Oh, yeah. I'm doing that with the Cardinal fandom until they come out of this. It's the same place I'm Roman and Diablo for. That's where the Cardinals are right now. Trust the process. They're down in the bottom. Let's do some mailbag. Mailbag. Mailbag.
All right. Say these words about Keenan Allen. You monster. Hey, 2019 called. He wants your takes back. Yeah. Was that when I was mad at him? Probably. Yes, he was. You've had some scars too. To be fair, Keenan Allen didn't tell you to play him in the championship game. No, but he's, so he's done this to both of us? Yeah, he's Keenan Allen. It'll be my turn this year, guys. We're like the scorned lovers. We can't go back. Look. Keenan will get you. This is what he's going to do, but he's great. He's so likable when he's healthy. All right, into the mailbag we go. I want people to send in their voicemail questions. And they can do that by dialing 302464 TFFB, redraft, dynasty, whatever it is, commissioner questions, league questions. Maybe you've got some funny business going on in your league and you want us to like speak into that person's life. We can do that. Jason's very, very good at that.
I am pretty much a therapist, not licensed, but super good at it. Are you bonded? Ininsured, yes. He's not licensed, only bonded. Yeah. So you can go to the website as well, click the submit a question button or dial that voicemail hotline 302-464 TFFB. First question here, Instagram from Chris, Deonté Johnson or Hollywood in a dynasty league. They're about the same age? I'm going to take Hollywood. I am as well. I am as well. That was easy. All right. Instagram question, Nick, Dynasty Trade, Tradeaway Devante for picks 107 and 108. Ooh. That's a no for me, dog. 107 and 108. So this is usually the, usually that would be, if it's single quarterback, you're talking about Zay Flowers and Anthony Richardson. That's correct. That's my guess. You'd be trading.
Devante Adams for Zay Flowers and Devante or Anthony Richardson. If this is a 2 QB or Superflex, then you're looking at probably two high-end wide receivers. Let's keep it. Addison and, you know, Johnston maybe. Probably. Well, we'll keep it. We'll keep it to one quarterback for the purposes of answering this question here since he did not specify Superflex. Is it worth Zay Flowers and Anthony Richardson? To me, it is not. No, I don't think so. Those are two. There's a chance it works out for sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, the thing is, is when you're trading someone like Devante Adams, you want to make sure you're getting something great back. I would prefer to grab a wide receiver that I saw enough of on the NFL field to believe in, whether that's, you know, trying to trade him for someone like Trelon Burks, who I believe in.
You know, I felt like I saw enough on the NFL field where I can get him maybe plus something if that team is in their championship window. Zay Flowers, we haven't seen yet. Anthony Richardson, these are just two gambles. Does Brooks have Devante in her dynasty league? Yes, sir. Would you trade them away for those two assets? No, I would not. I have to have a proven player back in the deal. Is Dotson proven enough? Have you got Dotson in the 107? That's right there. I would probably wiss out and keep Adams. Okay. But that's just me. Yeah. Way to be honest. The question for me on Adams is how long, how much longer does Devante Adams have left? And is there a chance that that Devante Adams is in fact a bust pick this year with all the Jimmy Garoppolo stuff going on? Look, Jimmy Garoppolo has a bum foot right now.
they've reworked his contract so that they can cut Jimmy Garoppolo if they need to move on. I don't know where they're going to move on too, but let's say it is still Jimmy Garoppolo, and he ends up being the quarterback. Number one, is Jimmy Garapolo enough? I mean, where do you see him, you know, as in a lateral or a downgrade from what Derek Carr did for him? And then on top of that, if Jimmy Garoppolo is the starting quarterback and it's like, Just starting to practice during the preseason, does that freak you out enough to bail on Devante Adams for 23? I'm not bailing. Adams put up seven for 153 and two on the final real week of the season with a backup quarterback. He was doubted all last year going into the Derek Carr discussion. He's got two great years left. He did go 153 and two.
The two games right before that, though, he went two for 15 and four for 28. Well, I'm making the point about a different quarterback. Every wide receiver can have a bad game. Those were with their car. Weren't they? I'm going to vet that. I don't remember when car got pulled. I thought his only game that he came and played with the backup was. Was week 17 and 18. Yeah. So, I mean, look, I just gave you my opinion. I'm not bailing on Adams yet, and I'm not, I don't want to get mighty down with trying to hyperanalyze. whether's Jimmy G. or somebody else, I mean, DeMonte Adams will tell you to throw him the football and you will listen to him. That's what these quarterbacks do. And you will succeed when you do so. Right. Yeah. Are you in this boat or would you, are you afraid? I mean, there's, there's obviously a clear path to him busting if, if, um, if it's a downgrade at quarterback and the touchdowns don't come and he's, you know, dinking and dunking and they're not.
downfield targets like it was with Derek Carr. Yeah, Devante Adams could be a disappointment for where you're drafting him right now, which is the back of the first round, maybe early second round in some leagues. It could be disappointing. But I'm not betting against Devante Adams. I'm betting that he's going to get a 30 plus percent target share and that he's going to be really, really good just like he has always been and succeed because, you know, there's a reason he's one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL is because he's really good. Yeah. So I was bringing that up.
or more in context of this question of if you think that there's a chance that Devante Adams has a subpar year this year because of the quarterback and the struggle just overall of the team, and then you're in the kind of the thinking of, well, Devante Adams has two, maybe three years would be really stretching it. If he is high-level Devante Adams in three years, that would be surprising. I think he'll still be in the league and productive, but I don't think when he's 33 going on 34 that he's going to be the dominant player that he is right now. So I just, I think maybe there is a world where you're looking at, I got to get out from Devante Adams, even though it is a little bit, it's probably too early right now. But when you're playing Dynasty and you have this type of a player, sometimes it's, it is better to be out one year early.
get the huge haul in for the trade replacement than to be one year too late and live in that disappointment. I mean, don't hear what I'm not saying. I think Devante Adams is going to have a good year. And if I have him in Dynasty, I'm 100% trying to sell him. I'm going and I'm looking at the other, you know, depending on my situation. Would you trade Hollywood on your team that you want to compete with this year for Devante Adams? Would you do that deal? You got 26.9-year-old Hollywood. You have a wide receiver room. You got a running back room. Wow. You want to compete. Oh my goodness. That's push come to shove stuff. That is push come to shove because I could. That would help. I could compete this year. But I feel like I'm a star wide receiver away. And so I would do that trade to hopefully push me over. Wow.
See, time can be such a distraction in dynasty traits. It really can because you're never going to win a championship if you don't have the best players scoring the most points. Right. It's just the- Right. That's one of the fundamental tenets of the champion. One of the things you need. And so that is, that is very, very interesting. What if I told you, Jason, right now, Team Champ, Champ, Champ, is receiving an offer of Hollywood Brown for our Devante Adams. uh we're champ champ champ yeah that's what i said so we're going for we got a champ champ champ champ champ champ but you think that that that going forward with with devante adams is that much better than moving forward with hollywood brown look i know that this is a personal um league situation for just you and i mike
But we're riding this thing into the ground. I mean, we are taking our old men, our Travis Kelsey, our Derek Henry, our Devonte Adams. It's not how I usually play Dynasty, but when you've won three championships in a row, you keep going until they all just are dead and gone. And we go, we'll build it back up like a phoenix from the ashes. Have you tried trading away all your future picks? Oh, we should look into that. I think we're going to need them. Yeah, that's your new path. You want the fourth? I've got other hot tips if you want to add me as a third manager. All right, we're going to wrap it up. That is it for today's episode of the show. Thank you for joining us. Thank you to Al and the judge, Inducers Alley, and the new guy, Justin Ratt. Here's this guy. See you later, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com.
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