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Last Straw Players, Pump the Brakes, Manly Men

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And Philip Lindsay's very talented, but you're going to get between what? Seven to 11 carries from Philip Lindsay. Really? Yeah. I mean, I think that's about, I think what he has. Week one, it was 15, week two, it was 14, then he was concussed, then it was 12. So I mean, he's... So maybe you get 12 carries from him. But I don't think he's an auto start each and every week. I think he's a decision. Like, would you rather start Philip Lindsay or Dionne Lewis this week? What do you think?

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Are you going to stay in Philip Lindsay's... Yeah, probably. In the rotation? I think they're both good matchups and both good plays. But I would probably stay with Phil. Lindsey is in New York this week. For the Jets. Correct. Well, it could be the Giants. For the Jets. So Philip Lindsay, Nick Chubb, Andrew Luck. I hope Andrew Luck has a bad week. I'm facing him this week. Oh. So it's always nice when you can root for.

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for that. Those were pumped the brakes. Yep. With O'Reilly Auto Parts, better parts, better prices each and every day. Let's go ahead and get into some of this news. News and notes from around the league. Rest the season, Royce Freeman or Philip Lindsay. Who do you want? Philip Lindsay. I have to say it quietly. I'm going to stick with Royce Freeman. The problem is with Philip Lindsay. He's very good.

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Right. Yeah. That's the problem. The problem is not like, okay, this undrafted guy, the team is backing him. He's had, he's flashed a couple times. He's, he's excellent. I mean, he makes, he does things that Royce Freeman cannot. They compliment each other very, very well. But what about this staff? Philip Lindsay has never finished an NFL road game in his career. 100% of the time.

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He's been thrown out for trying to play Nintendo's punch out on a football field. 100% of the time. I mean, that's hard to argue. Now he's going on the road. Fista cops are going to fly. 5.9 of carry this year. He's. Yeah, he's been great. I remember after week one, I just wanted to. 165 pounds. Completely discount Philip Lindsay in every which way. And so I went back. I watched every snap. And I was like, darn it.

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Darn it, he's pretty good. He's shifty, he's powerful. And what does he say he has, 439 speed? That's what I say I have, too. No, that's what he added at the pro day. 5-8-165. Yeah, I'm generally speaking. But obviously it looks great. I mean, it was a start of the week for a reason last week. And look, I'm setting you up here. Sure. Every week you can start up on the break. Start your Philip Lindsay. Linder Fernette is out for week.

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Five against the Chiefs. We knew this was coming, but it's official. Yeah. His hamstring is in recovery. It's made of candy. Liquorish. Have some candy. Dan Quinn said he expects Devanta Freeman to return in week five as you return to your lineup against the sealers. That's a great question. That's a great question. That's a question I asked Brooks, my co-owner this morning because, I mean, we've got Alex Collins, Amari Cooper, and Devanta Freeman that were really, we need two of those three guys.

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And I think it's going to depend on some of what happens in practice. I want him fully back. And I'm going to, I mean, look, by the end of this week, I'm going to have researched how people come back from his injury as well as I can because it's everyone who has Devon Freeman is going to have to ask that question. They drafted him to be an RB1, possibly RB2, definitely. So they're hurting without him.

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Yeah, I think it would be good to look and see how Freeman has performed since he's come back from these little hammy strains, that type of thing. From my recollection, he's always been. Once he's back, he's pretty much back. But I'd like to confirm that. But will he be fully back this week as in the team? But I'm saying this particular week to me, like Kevin Coleman's playing all right. They have Edo Smith now who's playing pretty well.

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This is an absolute 100% for both teams. Must win game, right? I mean, both the Steelers and the Falcons. You lose this game. There's no hope. Your season is over for one of these two teams, and it's going to be a high-scoring game. I don't think you're going to roll out Edo Smith. If Freeman is good enough to be full participant in practice through the week, then he is...

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you know, that's going to be really, really telling because you're not going to go out there in such a must-win game and say, okay, Edo, take over. I agree. I mean, he's your $41 million man. So if he's healthy, I think they're going to play him. But we need to monitor that. Right. Antonio Calloway, his playing time could be dialed back, according to head coach Hugh Jackson, probably from not playing good football. That would be the top reason that I would dial it back is, what, three of nine targets?

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he's been very he has been athletically amazing and and mentally he hasn't put it together yet we're going to be talking about the final straw players and he was almost one of those guys where it's like you you keep wanting because you see the potential you see the upside and the rookie and baker coming in where you go he maybe he could be something but at some point you have to move on from a guy who's not getting it done

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I agree. And Richard Higgins. He's a rookie. It's been two weeks. I'm saying at some point. You're going to go with Rod Streeter? I'm not, so if he comes out. Well, Richard Higgins is probably a better play than Antonio Calloway. But I'm saying when you're in three wide, Calloway's got to be on the field. I think it would be a mistake to bench him. You think to bench him? Well, as in to dial his, to dial the snaps back. Oh, for the Browns, not for fantasy.

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No, yeah, I'm talking for the Brown. I'm talking for the Browns. I'm saying let him play through it. Let him figure it out. All right. So you're saying they'll bench him. Yeah, I think they'll, yeah. Geronimo Allison, not practicing Wednesday remains in the concussion protocol. We'll monitor that. We'll let you know in the matchup. We had a sleeper alert that came through just right before this, and Green Bay has confirmed that Marquez Velda Scanling will be the guy. It's not anything we weren't assuming, but it's at least been confirmed that if Cobb or Allison cannot play.

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Valdez Scantling is the guy to pick up. All right. The Rams are releasing their kicker and signing Cairo Santos until Greg Zirline's back. So high-powered offense. If you want to take a shot, go ahead. That's all right. Mike Tomlin asked about the possibility of a star running back, returning to town. His name's Levion Bell. And he said, I have not talked to Levion, and I have no Levion update. Therefore, we have none. That's fair.

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in week number five. I don't care who goes first. I'll kick it off with a guy that there was some debate yesterday or while we were preparing yesterday's show for waivers about whether or not we should even include Latavius Murray in there. And we were talking about, okay, well, look, if Latavius Murray was on your waivers, you would pick him up. I would probably pick him up. Right. Mike was saying that. And Dalvin Cook, he might not be back. You know, we talk a lot about Leonard Fournette. Okay.

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That's worrisome. Hamstring problem comes in, reaggravates it. That's a huge issue. Well, that's pretty much what's going on with Dalvin Cook. They just haven't come right out and said that there's this big a problem. So I'm a little bit worried about Dalvin Cook. So that says, oh, Latavius Murray, that's the guy. You need to get him. You need to have him. The problem is Murray has had opportunity. Cook hasn't been there. And Murray has done Jack Squad.

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I mean, he has completely been irrelevant in the best situation imaginable. Remember that game against Buffalo? No Dalvin Cook. Best matchup ever where he got two carries, turn those into a yard. That's not helpful. CJ Ham is the one always with the ball on his hands. They've got another rookie running back. It's just like, at some point, rock.

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Thomas. Rock Thomas is involved too. Latavius just doesn't look good. When he's not being a detective, of course. Of course. Dumb shoes. But the thing is, is I'm not ready to drop him yet. I'm not ready to not pick up Latavius Murray because it's still a small sample size. But if Dalvin Cook is out or even if he's very limited and Latavius Murray is irrelevant again for another week, he's gone. He gone.

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I'm moving on. I'm not picking them up. I'm not holding them. I'm not stashing him. I'm just saying he's not a good enough handcuffs. No longer Murray to him. Oh, no. I feel like Murray's. He's been a victim of circumstance of game script. And that's why the Buffalo, it was, they were down multiple touchdowns. But you would have hoped. You would have hoped somebody that has the passing game acumen of Murray in his career.

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would not be being supplanted by C.J. Ham. Who sucks. Or born. It's like they have, they've predetermined that Murray's not going to be involved in that way, even if cooks off the field. Agreed. Well, yeah. And two weeks ago against Buffalo, Murray was involved. He had five receptions for 30 yards. He pulled the last straw for me last week. Yeah, I mean, maybe that, yes, I need one more straw to break the camel's back. Ooh. That's it. Yeah. Just mixing.

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Mix all of them. Mix all the straws. Yeah. Okay, so your last straw, first one, Latavius Murray. I'm going to throw out Nelson Agalore. Yeah. It's not been good since Carson Winst's return. I was just looking at teams that lead the league in drops right now. Cleveland, Minnesota, Philadelphia, also known as Callaway, Treadwell, Agalore.

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That's why they lead the league in drops. And Agalore, since Wince's return, not been good. You've got multiple tight ends that can be used in this offense. You have Alshun Jeffrey back. It doesn't seem like... Now, the targets were still there last week, and that's why he's not already dropped. I want to see it. I want to see what happens this week. I want to see if those targets turn into receptions and maybe you build that rapport. I don't want to let a guy go.

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that could be the PPR guy for a really good quarterback and Carson went. So I don't want to let him go now. I want to wait and see, but he's on his final straw. Yeah, I don't blame you at all. I mean, Nelson Aguilar, he had the, you know, the breakout season last year, but it was on the back of eight touchdowns. Only 768 yards, 62 receptions. I mean, those numbers are fine, but when you add in eight touchdowns,

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