His first year, which wasn't his rookie year that he missed, he did that. He still got over 100 carries that year. So we're not talking like you got 20 carries. No, no, but I mean, you see a lot of guys, whether, you know, Spiller, Ellington, or these guys that get, when they had the 100, 150 carries, even Jamal Charles in his early years, it's easy to see those numbers, those yards per carry numbers go up because you're putting them in, you know, third down draw positions where they pick up 12 yards on a...
Fantasy Football Podcast for 2015 - Free Agent Running Backs and Draft News
Fantasy Football Podcast for 2015 - Free Agent Running Backs and Draft News
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To me, it still speaks more to Baltimore than it does to Justin Fawcett, and I apologize to him and his family. You know what it kind of reminds me of Fred Jackson, how he was older when he finally started getting utilized. But he had years of underutilization. He didn't have as many miles on his legs, and so he wasn't really 29 or 30 years old. And so I think that Justin Fawcett, if he comes back...
should be drafted with confidence, even with Tali Afaro behind them. I think that Justin Fawcett is a great player, and I really hope, when I look at the landscape of all the different free agent running backs, and Mr. Forcet, I apologize, but I hope he doesn't sign there, because I think they're going to go out and sign another running back if he does, and then it's going to muddy the water. And I really want one of these guys.
that have that skill set like a Shane Vereen or Ryan Matthews to go and take that spot because I think they've got a great offensive line. Who commits to Forsyth, though? Isn't it going to be a Jacksonville, a Cleveland, a low-tier team? I mean, who's going to commit to a long-term deal with Justin Forset? Because if he's only signing where he's guaranteed a commitment as a lead back.
I mean, I'm not saying he doesn't perform fantasy-wise. Is it Buffalo? They lose Spiller, and Justin Forset comes in there, and he's splitting time with Fred Jackson. It's to become, like, the graveyard duo in Buffalo. That would be awesome. The geriatric pair. I think right now I lean towards him. He's coming back to Baltimore.
But I disagree with Jason that I think he'll be overdrafted. I think the Lorenzo's role will grow because they saw that you can't completely rely on Forset. I love Lorenzo. They're just wearing him down. I do too. He's moved up my internal head rankings because they're not on paper. They will be. February. Fancyfieldballish.com. Check it out soon. So I think he comes back and I still think he has a good year.
Okay. Especially with Trismet. Sorry to keep cutting you off. In addition to his great yards per carry, just as talking about a football player that's good. And I wonder if he could actually be good if he goes to another team, I don't know, some Jacksonville type team. But you had mentioned earlier, why would you pay a veteran more as for pass blocking? And according to pro football focus, he was the second highest rated pass blocker.
In the entire league. I mean, so he's well-rounded. Second highest, that's good. That's good. That's decent. Yeah, that's, yeah. Jaquiz Rogers trivia. He was number one. What? Just pass blocking, not running. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, I guess if he's in on every third down, which is pretty much all he played. I wonder what, I wonder what those numbers look like. But yeah, just before it's set, surprised a lot of people. I think at a minimum we should.
Remember that guys like this can stay consistent year long, you know, these flash in the pans. Frank Gore is moving on. I think we all agree with that. Agreed. He's done in San Francisco, which is kind of sad because honestly that team's identity, his heart and its soul was Frank Gore for, I don't know how many seasons he's played. It's got to be about eight. Does he have anything left to offer the fantasy community? Because I've given up on him exactly four years in a row.
And you've given up on him two early four years in a row. He wasn't spectacular this year, but I mean, he still was over a thousand yards. His touchdowns were really low with four on the ground. And he's all but disappeared from the past game. Yes.
Oh. It's a weekly occurrence here that Andy's dumps water. I just filled my water again. Oh, my goodness. For those who are following the footballers in this off season. You moved your iPad. Thank goodness. We have water down again. There's less water in there. Frank, and no ice this time, unfortunately. But Frank Gore, he has disappeared from the past game, which...
was, as it's been happening, is a little surprising because he had a couple years where he was a prolific pass catcher and was very dangerous. I think his old man hips maybe don't allow him to do it anymore, but I think he'll have an opportunity going somewhere. It can't be too great. I mean, he is a lot of miles. Yeah, he does, but he's either Emmett Smith Miles? Probably not.
No, I think he is. I think he is the Emmett Smith Miles, the Emmett Smith body. You look at his numbers this last year, and he played great, but was taken out of the passing game. His numbers weren't that bad. He says he wants to be in a heavy role. Over the last, I think it was like seven years, his yards per carry were the second highest this year. I mean, he didn't run poorly. He just wasn't utilized in the same role, and the Niners clearly...
don't seem to want him back, and I don't blame him with Carlos Hyde behind them. A regime change. Things are changing there. But I think that Frank Gore, when he signs for another team, I think he's going to be more of a value because he's super old, he's got a ton of miles, and most of the time these guys break down, I don't really have a scientific reason for saying Frank Gore is not going to break down, but I don't think it's happened yet. Years. Years of not breaking down. I think he's going to keep going.
He had a mid-season lull where his usage was way down. He had a four-game stretch towards the end where he got 13 carries, 10, 12, 11. However, he shut it down at the end of the year, which his final two games, second to last week against San Diego, 26 for 158.
which is 6.1. To close the year out. And then his final game of the year was against the Cardinals. He's probably rolling his eyes the whole dang time. He got 25 carries against the Cardinals, 144 yards. Yeah. Which, granted, the Cardinal run defense had kind of evaporated at that point. But for him to close the year that strong, that actually gives me some hope. What about Arizona? For him to come to Arizona? Yeah, what if he...
Came to Arizona. I mean, I feel like Arizona's got a lead back role they could offer him. Unless you think Kerwin Williams is the future here. No. Kerwin Williams is not. Kerwin Williams will go back to Sherman Williams. Yeah. When he's... Wait, who's Sherman? Is that the paint company? That's right. Okay. That's why they call him the hit man. Frank Gore in Arizona, that, as crazy as that sounds for the... To be sleeping with the enemy. He gets to stick it to San Francisco a little bit.
It's not the craziest idea that we have. Thank you. We as in Arizona has a position of we need a between the tackles runner. Frank Gore could provide that with Ellington turning into a secondary Gio Bernard type. And he would be an angry man to come play in Arizona, which I like. Let me ask you this question, guys. Put these four.
free agent running backs in order of who you think will make the most fantasy contributions next year. We've talked about them all. Justin Forset, Mark Ingram, Frank Gore, and Ryan Matthews. What's the order you guys have? I'm going to go Matthews, Forset. What are the last? It was Gore and who else? Gore and Ingram. Oh, maybe. Ingram Gore. That's how I put him today. I would go.
Matthews, Forset, Gore, Ingram. Yeah. We stand united for our love of Ryan Matthews. You said Ingram Gore, so you're not here. No, he's saying Ryan Matthews. I'm talking to Ryan Matthews. Oh, I got you. Yeah, you're both stupid. That was close. I wanted to put Forset first. Yeah, Ryan Matthews. And yourself? For me, I think I will put Ingram at the top of that list, followed by Forset, Matthews, and Gore. Yeah.
here in February of course. What's our time check at? Yeah, I was going to say we're going to have to go ahead and wrap up this episode. We'll do a part two of the roundtable here for running backs because we've got a lot more guys on the list. Let's tease them a little bit. Shane Verene, Stephen Ridley, Bradshaw. You skip the guy I'm most excited to talk about in this list. Who did I skip? Roy Hulu. Okay. Hello! I like me some Roy. I'm a Roy boy.
Okay, Roy Hulu will be spoken of in our next podcast. Ben Tate, Ray Rice, Anton Smith, Daniel Thomas, Chiquis Rogers. We still got to talk about guys that could end up on the free agent market like Adrian Peterson, Shady McCoy, and that fat salary. Marshaun Lynch does he retire what happens in Seattle? So I think we've got plenty to talk about and a little bit of time before the season begins. So we will do it again next time on the running back roundtable. Any final parting thoughts from the...
Fantasy footballers here? Are we, did we agree to go a half episode or a full episode on Trent Richardson? We're gonna, we really should dedicate a full episode of Sir Richardson. One episode. Tweet that thing out. You're telling me him and his fan club. We'll get him on. We'll get him on for that show. I'll get him on. Let the real truth from Trent Richardson. What happened at the end of the year? Oh.
Scoot. What didn't he do right in punk coverage to get put on the active roster? Oh, man. You hear weight problems and everything? Oh, my goodness. What are they eating in Alabama? Those running backs, they come out. Mark Ingram, he looked faster this year, but those first three years, it's like they send you out with a meal plan, and you end up looking like Eddie Lacey, and he just overcomes it. I will look gladly look like Eddie Lacey if I could do what Eddie Lacey can do.
That was so valid. I traded for Eddie Lacey in our dynasty league and got so much crap for how bad he was. And now it's just a badge of honor. Now granted, the crap was not given by anybody talking on this podcast. We were the three musketeers on that deal. Well, I'm happy how it turned out, that's for sure. I'm not.
We do need to talk about our upcoming redraft fantasy footballers league. Nice point. This is true. This is true. We are going to do an official, an official, an official fantasy footballers redraft league. Is that a big O? That's a big O. Yeah. So if you are interested, here's the thing. We've got most of the league, not most, we have some of the league filled up. We have some open spots. So if you are interested,
in showing your fantasy football chops taking on the fantasy hitman and uh jason and myself in this league you should do what should they do should they tweet us should they Facebook us email us we should have probably telegram the official game plan but i feel like you got to email in i want i want some uh yeah we got to make this interesting here's the thing we have a little bit of time so
We are going to come up with our exact game plan for how you get on. This is just a tease. Yeah, this is the appetizers. This is happening. Yeah. But this is the mozzarella sticks before the steak. Cheeseburger? I'm a cheeseburger. I'm a cheeseburger. Where are you eating those together? Red Robin? I don't, I don't dine with Jason, generally speaking. I'm very fancy. What you said before the steak. All right. Well, we'll let you know. Wait, wait.
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