He is not going to develop into that. I would be shocked, blown away, if that ever happened. You have turned on him tremendously. I have, because. You are done with him. You are D-U-N. You're like, I know all I need to know. Yeah, I mean, he's not it. The five-game sample size at the end of his first year was not enough. There was some good. There was some bad. But including the entirety of last year, I think there's enough to know. You're more responsible than Drew Lott.
Buy or Sell + Fantasy Q&A, Open-Faced Sandwiches - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/11
Buy or Sell + Fantasy Q&A, Open-Faced Sandwiches - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/11
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108 passagesI am far more responsible. And I'm not a responsible person, but I am far more responsible for Drew Lock. Over under four snooze button presses per morning. Under for me, over for Drew Lock. Okay. Okay. But my point is, I don't see him. He's an unrestricted free agent after this season. So there's question marks on... He may be one before the season. There's question marks on whether or not he will be there, what his futures. I don't love...
wide receivers changing teams necessarily. I don't see that as, oh, good. Next year he can go sign with someone, have a better quarterback. So I do not view Cortland Sutton as a top five. Oh, you said Cortland Sutton's a free agent? Yeah. And then I made a joke about Drew Locke. I thought you were saying Locke was. All right, follow-up question from last episode. This one's from William. He finished the tight-in truth episode. Didn't hear us talk about Big Irv. Wanted our input as to what?
We think of his future next year from a redraft and dynasty perspective. Bigger Smith of the Minnesota Vikings. Bigger Smith is very interesting. You still need some things to happen, though. Kyle Rudolph is technically under contract for the Vikings next year. He feels like a potential cap casualty type of a player, which would open up a huge amount of opportunity for Irv Smith. And he...
The problem with Irv, though, is, I mean, maybe you get an outlier season of it just, all the touchdowns go to Big Irv, and he's sitting at 9 or 10 by the end of the year, and you're like, sweet, I have the tight end four or the tight end three. But with Justin Jefferson and Adam Thielen, on a run first team, and I mean, Dalvo Cook was, of course, involved in the passing game, it's.
The ceiling for Irv. Irv's not going to jump into being a top two dynasty or a dynasty player in his current situation. So he is capped like that. But he's interesting to me as someone who is a lower tier guy. You can maybe trade for. It won't take that many of assets from your team to get him if you're struggling at the tight end position. Yeah. If you're hoping for the third year Titan breakout, that's the year that Titans usually take that big jump. It's bigger of junior.
Noah Fant and Hoculis are your options. But I agree with what you're laying out here. At best, he's third in the pecking order and that's if Rudolph is gone. Which puts him at the bottom of those three players you just mentioned. Yes, agreed. All right, Instagram question from Shannon Fisher. Hey, ballers. What's your prediction for Mike Williams for 2021? I am worried I will never get to see what Mike Williams could be. Because Mike Williams.
plays football in a way that is dangerous. He jumps too high, which means he falls too far, and he does it every play. And he gets hurt. He's a great player. He's excellent. But he feels like a part-time player. Yeah, it really, I hope, because I have the exact same thought, and I hope that that is just recency bias of this.
you know, rookie Justin Herbert year and the injury riddled season that Mike Williams had this season because the reality is he's a very good wide receiver. And if he can stop doing the thing where he falls from 20 feet in the air straight to the ground and hurts himself, I do think he has, you know, the skill set, the ability in the quarterback to take a step forward and be a really good option. He will be someone that I will be targeting.
at the very end of the drafts because I don't think he's going high. I think he's a double-digit type player. He's going to be a borderline undrafted player. Exactly. And so when you're at that point in the draft and you're looking at these flyer options, Mike Williams could be nothing next year, but he has the talent, the quarterback where if everything clicks, the fantasy could be, you know, huge. And I feel like we spent forever talking him up.
at the end of last year is like this could be a week where he has a great week. And it was like he was getting 81% of snaps, 82% of snaps, 84% of snaps finishing with three catches, four catches, four catches, no touchdowns. You know, like, there just really wasn't much there last year. And this was two years ago. He was double-digit touchdown guy. Is he the- I think he might be on the way out. Yeah, he, you can look at his career.
This is his fifth year. Yeah. Mike Williams has been in the league for a long time. Five years of height. I mean, I know the first year it was, that year was gone to injury. But it's 2021, Jason, I'll throw this to you. Is he on your list for the, the Devante Parker, the Corey Davis, these guys that have just basically been not doing much for fantasy football? And then they're like, oh, hey, yeah, this player is good. In year five.
Well, I mean, we have, we've seen him. You know, he had a top 24 season his sophomore year. So I don't think it would be quite the same. And I don't think he has the ability to leapfrog and become the number one unless Keenan Allen has a catastrophic, you know, season end. So no. He's a vacation. Season vacation. So I don't put Mike Williams quite to that list of breakup this coming season. Nelson Aguilar or Mike Williams? Mike Williams. Why?
Because I think he has a team first off. Right. And if I think that the Raiders bring in a prominent wide receiver. I think that's their number one goal right now. All right. Trevor McCarthy from Twitter. What item in the studio would be the most dangerous weapon in a battle royale among you three? I call, um, I call this. Okay. Andy is reaching for a microphone trophy. That's pretty good. Oh, this thing's really heavy. Academy of Podcaster's People's Choice Award, 2016.
It is very heavy. That's going to take you out. I feel like it's unwieldy. It's wieldy, Mike. A direct blow to the back of the head is going to work. Is it sturdy enough that? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. You don't even, you don't even need to hit them with this. You just punch holding it. And your punch is super straight. Your fingers will break into a thousand pieces if you do that. Look, I'm taking the custom helmet, okay? Because I've got defense. I've got offense. I can wear this sucker.
And I know concussions are, you know, you're not going to knock me out real easily. And then I could take this thing off. Okay, Miles Garrett. And Miles Garrett. Oh. Now, do we still have that? Mike's looking around desperately for a weapon because he's about to lose a fight. Now, I don't see the.
the Japanese gate that we had made originally? That's out front. That's not in the studio anymore. All right. That would have been a good one. Oh, man. Oh, what are we talking about? The footy award. The footy award. That is, that thing is dangerous. It is sharp on nearly every single side of the trophy. Okay. And you'll have the honor of being taken out by a footy award. Yeah, that's true. If you're going to go out, you'll probably just give up. There's a chance if you're wielding that I would volunteer to be hit. It's tribute.
All right. Let's go to another Twitter question from Jordan. Keep Alvin Camara for a late first or Kyler Murray for a late seventh. I would take Alvin Camara. Some of this is going to be determined based on the quarterback situation. I presume this is also single quarterback. Right. Because otherwise it's clearly. Yeah. Yeah. It's single. But let me change the question then because is there any way I would be able to.
Like if it's just Kyla Murray for free? Or Calvin Kamara for late first? Would that change it? I think it would. The seventh is pretty late. The reality is like there's going to be, like for instance, Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz will be a later round guy that I'll be all in on for fantasy. There it is. Jalen hurts so good. I thought we were getting kissed again.
That's what it felt like because it was, I'm on edge over here with those sound drums. It feels like there's a really, really large gap in what you're expecting to get between getting Kyla Murray, who was the number one quarterback for a large part of the season and what might be with Jalen Hertz. So like, just hypothetically. In his three starts had the third most points at the quarterback position. I'm, yes, that doesn't matter to me very much. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think that the cost.
You know, we looked at Lamar Jackson's breakout year and Pat Mahom's breakout year. And the differences between those and even Kyler's this past season is that Kyler's was expected and he was going in the fifth round. Whereas you got Lamar Jackson so late. You got Patrick Mahomes so late. I'm looking for someone that you can hopefully get so late. And maybe the fantasy community. What about Kyla Murray in the seventh? Wouldn't that be getting that late? Yes, that's really late.
If I could take Kyla Murray and you get Saquan. You get Kyla Murray and you get Saquan. You're not getting Syquan. Okay, you get Kyler and Nick Chub versus Alvin Kamara and hoping for Jalen Hertz. Jol and quarterback of your choice. I mean, because you get to draft them. You don't get Josh Allen. You don't get Kyle Murray. Let's just take those two because obviously there is the caveat here. And I'm just exploring. You don't know that you're going to get Jailen Hertz. But let's change this question and say, would you rather have Nick Chubb and Jailen Hertz?
Or I'm sorry, Nick Chubb and Kyler Murray. Yes. Or Alvin Kamara and Jalen Hertz. I would take Alvin Kamara and Jalen Hertz. I would take the Kamara side. Which side are you on? I'm on the Kyler side. So hopefully we have explained some thought process here for you and you can make your decision. I think what we got out of that was that you guys are both confident in Jalen Hertz. Maybe more than even Philadelphia is. Yeah. Or there's no guarantees. Or same zies because they're.
all the rumors of their trade in Carson Wentz. Yeah, but they could draft the quarterback. Obviously, if Wentz is there, then I won't have the same expectation. No, I'm not expecting that. I'm expecting it to be hurts based on the news. Where does Terry McClure and stand among other wide receivers? This question comes in from Instagram. In skill set or fantasy? I would say fantasy. I think that's what we do. Yeah. Well, it was not clarified.
Well, I would just use that as the default. All right. Barometer. When in doubt, it's for the fantasy show that you're on right now. Yeah. That's a good rule of thumb. All right. Terry McLaren or Alan Robinson. I guess that one's sort of impossible. Give us one where we know. Mike Evans. Oh, Mike Evans. I'll take Mike Evans. Adam Thielen. Redrafts single season I would take Adam Thielen. Oh, man.
That one's very close. I think I might take Terry there. Julio. A single season, Julio. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I see Terry McLaurin as a top 20. So the words that were about to come out of my mouth were a low-end wide receiver 2. So I feel like it's more like 20 to 24. I don't think I see him as a top 20 until the quarterback situation changes, which could happen this year. Where do you guys stand with Corey Davis from Big Fresh on Instagram?
Look, he showed that he can play in the NFL, and that's great. He's going to be a free agent, and so we have to wait and see where he's going to land. If Corey Davis were to go to the Green Bay Packers, and he's the wide receiver, that makes more sense. I know there's a lot of buzz about juju because he posted the picture of himself.
on Fortnite in the Green Bay Packers. Oh, is that what happened? Yes, he was playing. I thought Al Boylan was the only sole proprietor of this height. No, I think Juju wants to go there, but notoriously, historically, the Packers have not paid up for wide receivers and free agency. And I think Corey Davis is the type where maybe they can get him for more on a budget. But would you be in on Corey Davis if he was the wide receiver two for the Green Bay Packers? Yes. If he was the two, yeah. Is Lazzards a free agent?
He is, I believe he is an exclusive rights free agent. I can vet that though. Which means he would be on the time. I mean, being in on Corey Davis probably doesn't mean much more than being in on him now in that situation. Who's going to score more touchdowns? Devante Adams or Corey Davis. That's the, that's the leader question. Just answer really fast. Okay, Devante Adams. Robert Tunyon or Corey Davis? Robert Tunyon. Yeah. So it's kind of tough.
Tough in that. I mean, I know everybody wants people to go to Green Bay, but we've been doing this for so many years now. Trying to find the next Jordy, James Jones. Lizard. Lizard is an exclusive rights free agent. So he's a packer. He's a packer. Who's a better actual wide receiver? Jiu or Corey Davis. Oh. Since Mike wants to talk for real football. I apologize for watching to talk football on the football show. Talk football? This guy.
